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  • #46
    LOL. All the better to parent them with.
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #47
      We live in such a safe and peaceful society. This incident, and Columbine, are extremely rare. Do people really think it was so much better in the old days? Study your history and you'll find violence everywhere. When incidents like this happen, people are always looking to blame something, video games, parents, poverty, government, whatever. The truth is that violence is a part of us. When our ancient ancestors were hunters & gatherers we needed it to survive. Most people don't use violence unless they're put under extreme pressure. Things are good in this country and violence is not a common means to resolve conflicts. If you think this country is so bad, try saying "We live in a violent society!" to someone who lives in Liberia or Palestine.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ahaha
        When incidents like this happen, people are always looking to blame something, video games, parents, poverty, government, whatever.

        I personally blame the people of Chicago and da Bears for this kind of thing.

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        • #49
          I think video games do have some affect on a student, but I don't think that it's the driving force in a homicide. I believe rap music and TV has an impact too, but not an impact big enough to cause murder, alltogether.

          Personally, I think America is gun crazy. I mean if you watch Bowling for Columbine, you realize how easy it is to get a gun. But, in these HS shootings, you've gotta blame the parents.

          I mean, it seems in almost all of these stories that the gun used to commit the crime came from the parents. Parents are encouraged to put their guns away when they have little children, when really, having a teenager with a gun is as dangerous, or more dangerous than a little kid with a gun. The teenager is going to have a motive, the teenager is gonna know how to turn off the saftey, and the teenager is going to know what it is capable of.

          You see the parents say, "He was such a good kid, I don't know why he would do this."

          Well, the kid has a problem and he has a resolution to the problem in his Dad's dresser closet. Now, I'm sure these kids have problems, and I know most of America, when faced with a problem, will not resolve it with a gun, but some of these kids just think that way.

          Guns, in most cases, are used to protect their owneers and their families, but more deaths are caused by accidental shootings in the home, than deaths that are prevented by guns.

          Now, I know people have hunting guns, and though I'm not a hunter, nor plan to be one, I do understand and agree with the concept of a hunter having a gun. But, for God's sake people, LOCK IT UP! Put it in a case and put the key where only you will find it. It's a lot easier to find a gun than it is to find a key.

          America won't change it's ways with the selling of guns and ammunition, but hopefully they can change with gun saftey. Unfortuantly, that prospect doesn't look to promising.
          "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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          • #50
            Originally posted by BallHawk
            I think video games do have some affect on a student, but I don't think that it's the driving force in a homicide. I believe rap music and TV has an impact too, but not an impact big enough to cause murder, alltogether.

            Personally, I think America is gun crazy. I mean if you watch Bowling for Columbine, you realize how easy it is to get a gun. But, in these HS shootings, you've gotta blame the parents.

            I mean, it seems in almost all of these stories that the gun used to commit the crime came from the parents. Parents are encouraged to put their guns away when they have little children, when really, having a teenager with a gun is as dangerous, or more dangerous than a little kid with a gun. The teenager is going to have a motive, the teenager is gonna know how to turn off the saftey, and the teenager is going to know what it is capable of.

            You see the parents say, "He was such a good kid, I don't know why he would do this."

            Well, the kid has a problem and he has a resolution to the problem in his Dad's dresser closet. Now, I'm sure these kids have problems, and I know most of America, when faced with a problem, will not resolve it with a gun, but some of these kids just think that way.

            Guns, in most cases, are used to protect their owneers and their families, but more deaths are caused by accidental shootings in the home, than deaths that are prevented by guns.

            Now, I know people have hunting guns, and though I'm not a hunter, nor plan to be one, I do understand and agree with the concept of a hunter having a gun. But, for God's sake people, LOCK IT UP! Put it in a case and put the key where only you will find it. It's a lot easier to find a gun than it is to find a key.

            America won't change it's ways with the selling of guns and ammunition, but hopefully they can change with gun saftey. Unfortuantly, that prospect doesn't look to promising.
            BallHawk, your parents should be very proud of you. Great post.

            Back to the recent Wisconsin shooting, I grew up very close to the town where this happened. I called my parents today, and it is obviously big news in the area.

            I don't know if this has been covered much in the national news, but from what I've heard this weekend was Homecoming weekend for the school, and minutes before the shooting took place, one of their football players was killed in a car accident, and they were considering calling off the homecoming festivities because of that. A fatal car accident involving a high school student is big news itself in a town of 300 people. Horrible double tragedy for the town.
            "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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            • #51
              WTF is happening lately..... 3 school shootings in the past week in the U.S.

              Today a milk truck driver shot 6 people in an Amish School, in PA.

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              • #52
                Wow. Why is it that all these things happen in trend?. This week 3 school shootings in one week. About 9 months ago there were 3 deadly plane crashes in one week. The world is strange.
                "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by BallHawk
                  Wow. Why is it that all these things happen in trends. This week 3 school shootings in on week. About 9 months ago there were 3 deadly plane crashes in one week. The world is strange.
                  Well, how about if the Packers win 3 games at a time this year? That would be a positive thing that happened in "3's". The last time we won 3 games in a row was....well, not last year, lol.

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                  • #54
                    Apparently, the shooter called his wife before the killings and said, "He was acting out revenge for something done to him 20 years ago." Must of been traumatized by girls in his school days.
                    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GBRulz
                      WTF is happening lately..... 3 school shootings in the past week in the U.S.

                      Today a milk truck driver shot 6 people in an Amish School, in PA.
                      What did the poor Amish folk ever do to him?? If there's anyone you wouldn't expect something like this to happen to...

                      People are so stupid. Ok, not all of them but...
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #56
                        I just read the article. It said one of the girls was just 11. My oldest daughter is almost 10. Her live is just begining as was the children that this man killed. Lately, I catch myself thinking about things like this every morning my kids leave on the bus for school. What a F-ed up world we live in....
                        Formerly known as "Jeffro66".

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                        • #57
                          My parents always tell me the world wasn't nearly as fucked up when they were kids(my parents grew up in the mid 60s and 70s.) Is this true? If so, why is the world so fucked up now?
                          "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                          • #58
                            It was just different F'd up. But no, people did not go around shooting up schools back then. Kids were not armed unless they were hunting with their dads and it may be just an illusion, but I think people may have been a bit less self-centered and more civil. Then again, you're pushing the limits of my memory so maybe it's all skewed but I seem to remember a lot more freedom than I give as a parent.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #59
                              I wasn't trying to turn this into a why the world is F-ed up thread. But, that is a good question.
                              Formerly known as "Jeffro66".

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Jeffro66
                                I wasn't trying to turn this into a why the world is F-ed up thread. But, that is a good question.
                                The world is f@#ked up because there are way too many of us. Nature is all about balance, and when one species' population starts to get too big nature brings some kind of 'population control'. Examples would be an increase of predators, disease, violence, or starvation. Mankind, because of its super-evolved brain, has been able to counter many of these population controls. Because of this, the human population has exploded way past nature's balanced design, and now we completely dominate the planet. Evolution is all about competition to survive and to pass on our genes. Combine this with an overly crowded planet and you end up with a very volitile mixture. It's only natural that there are going to be a rare few individuals who can't handle the stresses of our civilized world and commit these absurd attrocities.

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