Ron Paul

[packinpatland]

I remember this tidbit:

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/chelseas.htm

Curious confusion swirls around former first daughter Chelsea Clinton's upcoming essay for TALK magazine describing exactly where she was on Terror Day in New York City.

Breaking her media silence once and for all -- Chelsea writes in great detail about her personal experience on the morning of September 11.

But, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, her account now sharply conflicts with her mother's version of Chelsea's New York adventure.

Appearing on NBC's DATELINE, Sen. Hillary Clinton told how daughter Chelsea cheated death on that fateful morning.

"She had gone on what she thought would be a great jog," Hillary Clinton explained. "She was going down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She was going to get a cup of coffee and - that's when the plane hit!"

Hillary's dramatic story about her daughter's close call with the Twin Towers became a media sensation.

"At that moment, she was not just a Senator, but a concerned parent," TODAY show's Katie Couric told viewers.

But now, in her own words, Chelsea does not mention a jog. Does not mention her plans to go to Battery Park, around the towers -- only to be stopped by a coffee break.

In fact, Chelsea writes that she was at her friend's apartment on Park Avenue South -- miles from Ground Zero -- when she learned of the attacks!

"I stared senselessly at the television," Chelsea writes.

Calls to Senator Clinton went unreturned on Friday.

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Filed By Matt Drudge

[Tyrone Bigguns]

CHC it is not worth getting into it.

Tyrone will cite his opinion as a fact and then criticize you for a lack of facts

I would get out before he just pisses you off and makes you snap.

Man, you are obsessed with me.

What opinions would that be? Like the fact that that AT&T doesn't control the internet like you said. Guess the data is my opinion.

Perhaps you should talk less and listen more, especially from someone who thought Obama was muslim.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Actually, it was a nice discussion.

Easy for you to say. You won.

Um, you don't have winners and losers in discussions.

But, if there were...i definitely won.

[Partial]

CHC it is not worth getting into it.

Tyrone will cite his opinion as a fact and then criticize you for a lack of facts

I would get out before he just pisses you off and makes you snap.

Man, you are obsessed with me.

What opinions would that be? Like the fact that that AT&T doesn't control the internet like you said. Guess the data is my opinion.

Perhaps you should talk less and listen more, especially from someone who thought Obama was muslim.

Again, where did I ever say that?

I question your credentials. I still maintain you're milking your 4 years at UW and give yourself a little ego stroke despite being near 40 and finally only getting to a middle-management position at some shitty job.

And you most definitely did not win. But I could see where you would think that considering you HAVE to be right and EVERYONE else is automatically wrong. Considering you still have clearly not done your homework on the internet thing, or else you wouldn't still be singing that tune.

CHC pretty much bitch slapped your silly post from end to end. Time to go back to the drawing board and continue eating up the mindless, actionless statements of your boy Obama Hussein.

[falco]

Um, a GOP candidate will be elected.. Are you crazy? Chocolate Hussein Obama or a women? Not to knock on either of those, but I am simply stating why they won't be voted in. Society as a whole is not ready for a female president (why that is I know not of) or a black/muslin either.

This is where you said it Partial. Did you forget so soon?

[Terry]

And as far as Guiliani being likable, why did he have a 92% approval rating on October 2nd of 2001?

Why the f*ck do you think? Because NY had been struck by a terrorist attack and he was the knight in shining armor.

For the last 6 goddamn years that's all he's been about, September of 2001.

I would hope so considering he hasn't been in office in 6 years.

Talk about an outburst.

Partial, I'm still trying to figure how you were going to get away with calling Obama a Muslim? Maybe you shouldn't read everything you get in your junk email.

I don't read junk mail and have no idea if he is a muslim or not. I made the assumption based on his name. Barack Hussein Obama is very middle-eastern sounding.

Then maybe you should find out for sure before spouting. The name, along with its owner, are African.

That's right. From those parts of Africa which are Muslim. So he's obviously descended from Muslims and you know what the Sicilians say.

[falco]

This is why I won't be voting for Rudy. I've been trying to find this since this discussion came up.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aqrEw901KXE

I'm loyal to my furry friends.

[Terry]

I am an idiot? Exactly what have you done in this world? What is your career and qualifications? What has the baggins family historically done?

Well, they found that ring, for one thing. And they were instrumental in overthrowing Sauron. They're credited with saving Middle Earth.

[MJZiggy]

Well, technically in his defense, he actually called Obama a lovely cotton fabric commonly used in bedsheets...but I'm willing to assume he meant the religion...

[falco]

Well, technically in his defense, he actually called Obama a lovely cotton fabric commonly used in bedsheets...but I'm willing to assume he meant the religion...

Boy zig, with that kind of technicality you should be helping defend mcdonalds against their "cheese suit".

[Terry]

Obama has been a Senator for 2 years and has spent the whole time campaigning to be president, not addressing issues.

Not really. He intended to finish his work in the senate and then run in 2012. However, with all the hype surrounding him, he made the smart deceision and ran now.

So the whole "He hasn't done jack, besides campaigning" shtick isn't really that accurate.

I refuse to address Tyrone since he is a troll and nothing more.

What has he done?!??!? How has he made Illinois a better place to live??!???!?

He hasn't done jack. He talks a good game. I can think of another guy who did that that ended up impeacher and didn't do a lot for our country.

He isn't going to win. And good riddance for that. We need another strong GOP candidate. Just not Bush and Cheney and the Haliburton fun that comes along with them.

I'm far from a troll.

You are just an idiot who makes ridiculous statements. That is why you don't respond. Backbone of the internet..refuted.

Better place: Um, sorry, the nature of the senate isn't about making your home state better..unless you are now complaining that he hasn't gotten enough pork.

Impeacher: um, are you referring to Nixon. That is the only president impeached. yea, it would suck to have another clinton in office..good employment, surging economy, not despised by the rest of the world, etc.

Tyrone, Nixon resigned, he was never impeached (although he most likely would have been). Clinton was impeached.

True. My fault. Though, Clinton wasn't impeached, he was acquitted by the senate.

Yes, he was impeached. Impeachment isn't conviction, it's the process, more like being indicted. He was acquited.

Like someone else said, however, it was political, as with Andrew Johnson. Had Nixon remained in office, he would have been impeached for non-political reasons, which would have been novel.

Most people don't understand high crimes and misdemeanors. People say Clinton lied, some say he committed perjury. Who cares? Those aren't high crimes or misdemeanors as the terms were designed to mean by the founding fathers. In that context, shoplifting is not a high crime or misdemeanor. The constitutional crime he was charged with was putting himself above the law, which is impeachable. We all know that was a pathetic excuse, but it was the rationale. The current bozos at the helm are ten times as impeachable as Nixon was, but the congress is not doing their duty - neither side of the aisle. Madison and his pals foresaw executive power grabbing, but they didn't seem to foresee a congress that would refuse to fulfill its constitutional obligations. I guess they didn't foresee such a total loss of education and character among American statesmen.

[MJZiggy]

This is why I won't be voting for Rudy. I've been trying to find this since this discussion came up.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aqrEw901KXE

I'm loyal to my furry friends.

That is hilarious. Just the kind of warm, fuzzy guy that people want in office...

[Terry]

This is why I won't be voting for Rudy. I've been trying to find this since this discussion came up.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aqrEw901KXE

I'm loyal to my furry friends.

Good clip! I'm with you, lol. What I wonder about that incident is whether Americans will like Rudy more for his approach, or dislike him more because of the use of his platform to emotionally bully and belittle.

Does anyone remember that incident where some mayor kicked a Beagle, or something like that (I don't quite recall it)? I only remember that it got a lot of bad press for the guy, Beagles being seen as the most lovable breed of dog out there, never mind them being our best friends overall, lol.

[Terry]

I used to really follow politics but haven't for some years now. I don't want to see Obama or Hillary elected, but not sure if I want Guliani or Romney either. If I had to choose right now the lesser of the evils would be Guliani or Romney. The far liberal socialize everything bent of Obama and Hillary scare me.

Maybe Merlin, who seems to follow politics, can throw in his two cents.

I still marvel at this American tendency to find socialism and communism under every bed. The last thing America needs to worry about is socialism. The feds could nationalize the oil companies and turn medicine into a government program tomorrow and the USA would still be 99% capitalist, open market, and democratic.

It's in places like China that people have to worry about the "socialize everything" crowd since everything is already socialized and centralized. Some progress by the common sense moderates to inject some capitalism and at least economic freedom into their system is carrying it forward at a lightning rate, but make no mistake, those moderates are still essentially communists.

Same thing for us, but in reverse. Liberals are not left wingers - they are right wingers who are just not AS right wing as most conservatives. People like FDR were smart enough to know that spreading around the crumbs a little thicker among the masses was the best way to keep everyone happy so that business could prosper and everyone else could continue to get richer. Real Marxists and Commies have always hated American liberals - not because liberals are leftists, but because they are right wingers with enough foresight to know what strengthens the system.

It's not the "socialize everything" crowd you conservative guys have to worry about. It's the type of short sighted right wing ideologues like those in the administration right now.

Ron Paul is probably the best one of the lot from either party. But he won't catch on, whoever said that is right. Pity.

[Scott Campbell]

People say Clinton lied, some say he committed perjury. Who cares?

Who cares?

1) Me.
2) Lots of other people, but not everybody.
3) The United States House of Representatives.

I'm sure I've left somebody out. Some of us have higher standards of conduct for our president than others. Implying that Clinton didn't do anything wrong (the who cares comment) by complaining that George is worse smells like it's tainted by the same partisanship you denounce in your post.