Lost Season 4

[Charles Woodson]

It was an okay episode...
So we were right, michael was on the boat, apparently not willingly, sounds like Ben is holding walt hostage? Sun gets off, but not Jin,(damn i really liked him) and yea... Next week episode looks Siccckkkkk

[GrnBay007]

It was an okay episode...
So we were right, michael was on the boat, apparently not willingly, sounds like Ben is holding walt hostage? Sun gets off, but not Jin,(damn i really liked him) and yea... Next week episode looks Siccckkkkk

Do we really know Jin didn't get off the island? Maybe he died after he was off the island.......or did I miss something??

The whole poisonous gas thing may be why Jack is so distraught after leaving the island...feeling that he left knowing people would die and wanting to go back to see what happened.

So what do you guys think about what the Captain of the boat said about all those bodies being recovered from the airline crash? Someone left a note not to trust him.

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I didn't get to watch the episode yet due to an insane amount of crazy difficult math homework, but the fact Jin was buried off the island implied he got off. He and Sun were the last members of the Oceanic Six according to the producers.

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http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/03/episode-408-meet-kevin-johnson-promo.html

That is the Canadian preview for next week.


Here are the two short teasers ABC shows during the week.

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/03/episode-408-meet-kevin-johnson-2-sneak.html

[oregonpackfan]

I didn't get to watch the episode yet due to an insane amount of crazy difficult math homework, but the fact Jin was buried off the island implied he got off. He and Sun were the last members of the Oceanic Six according to the producers.

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Yes, we were all right about predicting Michael was Ben's spy on the boat.

It was weird watching the female crew made commit suicide by jumping off the boat with chains strapped around her. The other crew members seemed so nonchalant when she made the jump. Even the captain dismissed it as "Cabin Fever."

It was quite a scene when Juliette revealed to Jin that his wife had an affair before the island. It was a pretty powerful trump card to keep her from joining up with Locke.

[twoseven]

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Sun's delivery was a flashforward. Jin's Panda delivery was a flashback to a time period well before they ever landed on the island. He said he had only been married for two months as he left the hospital. He was doing a job for his father-in-law. Notice how aggresive he was as his cab was stolen, a temperment he developed as a newly appointed thug for Sun's dad.

[MadtownPacker]

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Sun's delivery was a flashforward. Jin's Panda delivery was a flashback to a time period well before they ever landed on the island. He said he had only been married for two months as he left the hospital. He was doing a job for his father-in-law. Notice how aggresive he was as his cab was stolen, a temperment he developed as a newly appointed thug for Sun's dad.

Yup that was a flashback and a flashforward. Great epi.

For sure Jin is gonna die a heroes death. If his body is buried at the grave Sun went to visit then he died trying to get them off the island. He dies with honor.

But he really should have backhanded Sun once or twice for cheating on him with that bald, sick looking SOB. When Juliette dropped the bomb on him about Sun's affair I was like "DAAMMMMNNNN!".

Michael is being forced to do something on the ship so that means Walt is still on the island.

Based on Juliette telling Sun that in about a month she would get sick and die and her having the baby back in civilization is it safe to say they get off in a month?

[LL2]

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Sun's delivery was a flashforward. Jin's Panda delivery was a flashback to a time period well before they ever landed on the island. He said he had only been married for two months as he left the hospital. He was doing a job for his father-in-law. Notice how aggresive he was as his cab was stolen, a temperment he developed as a newly appointed thug for Sun's dad.

That was confusing. I didn't see it clearly as a flash back and a flash foward mixed together. I was thinking Jin faked his death too, but that wouldn't make sense. He said he worked for Mr. Paik, Sun's dad, and I doubt he would go back working for him after he left the island. He hated Sun's dad.

[oregonpackfan]

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Sun's delivery was a flashforward. Jin's Panda delivery was a flashback to a time period well before they ever landed on the island. He said he had only been married for two months as he left the hospital. He was doing a job for his father-in-law. Notice how aggresive he was as his cab was stolen, a temperment he developed as a newly appointed thug for Sun's dad.

Come to think of it, I think your assessment is correct, Twoseven.

[twoseven]

You forget that Jin secured the Panda(twice from a store) as a token of appreciation from his Korean employer to a Chinese guest who just had a grandson born. It seemed to me that Jin faked his death and is alive back in Korea.

Sun's delivery was a flashforward. Jin's Panda delivery was a flashback to a time period well before they ever landed on the island. He said he had only been married for two months as he left the hospital. He was doing a job for his father-in-law. Notice how aggresive he was as his cab was stolen, a temperment he developed as a newly appointed thug for Sun's dad.

That was confusing. I didn't see it clearly as a flash back and a flash foward mixed together. I was thinking Jin faked his death too, but that wouldn't make sense. He said he worked for Mr. Paik, Sun's dad, and I doubt he would go back working for him after he left the island. He hated Sun's dad.

When Jin tried to buy the second Panda the shop owner tried to sell him a dragon. The shop owner said 'it's the year of the dragon..' That would make it the year 2000 or the year 2012. If it were 2012: what was with that cell phone, and how about the design of the cars. It was 2000, four years before 815 crashed on the island..

..which brings me to my second note. The date on Jin's grave is September 22, 2004. That's the date of the crash. That stone was obvioulsy placed there symbolically after news of the crash with no survivors hit the world, JIN IS NOT THERE, IN THE GROUND. Sun probably has a stone somewhere else too, her father would never have placed them together. So Jin's either still on the island (dead or alive), or somewhere else unbeknownst to Sun.

That does not change the presumed fact that Jin's Panda adventure still happened in 2000. That flashback has absolutely no bearing on what has happened since the crash and what will happen in future episodes. Jin's flashback was simply a smokescreen to make Sun's flashforward and what actually happened to Jin more mysterious.

Sun had TWO toothbrushes in her bathroom. Eh?

Jin's story is NOT over. Jin could still be alive on the island, and Sun doesn't know it (though that's doubtful). He could still be on the island and she DOES know it, she's pretending he's dead to the outside world like Jack has been doing (that's very possible). Jin could also have been killed on the island, hero style, before she escaped.

Regardless, it seems to me that Jin is NOT the last of the Oceanic Six. The date on the stone allows for another to surprise us later, unsuspecting, because without catching the date we would just assume that was it for the six and move forward. To me that would be a typical Lost curveball.

I don't believe Jin made it off the island and then died because Sun would have gone to his actual burial place, not the symbolic one. I frimly believe he never left the island, probably died there, but who knows. Sun would mourn him like he were dead even if she knows he's still alive on the island because Jack has not been able to get back there. She and he and anyone else who's tried to find the island have had an impossible time doing so. So, Sun would not be pretending in thinking she'd seen the last of Jin, her mourning him as dead is therefore legit.

So did Jin die on the island, or is he still alive there? Obviously Claire never made it off, Kate's raising her kid. Somebody from 815 is still there, Jack and the rest of the Six are telling the outside world a lie, just a matter of time (season 5 or 6) before someone goes back there and we find out.

[Fosco33]

Anyone considered that the 'Oceanic 6' were all away from the hatch explosion (Kate, Jack, Sayid, Hurley)... that would mean that Sun/Jin would be the final two. Just a thought...

Hmmmm?

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Interesting how that has sort of come true, but Sawyer was there and he isn't an oceanic six. Not that that takes anything away from your theory, just pointing it out, though.

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Good catch on the grave date.

Next week "someone will die" according to the teasers. Though I doubt its an original cast member. I suspect it will be the captain. Or something goofy relating to Michael.

Oddly enough, Big Tom Friendly is in next week's episode according to the TV guide. The episode is called Meet Kevin Smith so it's a Michael episode.

[oregonpackfan]

Good catch on the grave date.

Next week "someone will die" according to the teasers. Though I doubt its an original cast member. I suspect it will be the captain. Or something goofy relating to Michael.

Oddly enough, Big Tom Friendly is in next week's episode according to the TV guide. The episode is called Meet Kevin Smith so it's a Michael episode.

I thought Michael was using the name Kevin "Johnson" on the ship.

[Fosco33]

Interesting how that has sort of come true, but Sawyer was there and he isn't an oceanic six. Not that that takes anything away from your theory, just pointing it out, though.

Good point. Maybe Sawyer is one of the last (Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sun, Jin) - and Jin dies next week (hmmm) or Jin could be the guy in the coffin in NY that Jack goes and sees (or that could be Sawyer, too). Did I miss something?