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  • #31
    Getting back to BB being voted coach of the year.

    There's really no debating his coaching skills. He is very good, probably the best right now. But he broke the rules.

    There's no debating that Pete Rose was an exceptional baseball player, he was destined for the Baseball Hall of Fame. He broke the rules.

    How is this different?

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    • #32
      I have no problem that Belichick won the COY, but is he the GM also? He the person that made the decision to sign Moss?

      I think Belichick deserves the award, as the only coach to lead his team to a perfect regular season record at 16 & 0...

      I WISH McCarthy won it due to what the Packers achieved with the talent they had and expectations placed before them at the start of the year..

      I believe there were quite a few "voters" that wanted to vote for someone other than Belichick, but how can you ignore perfection?
      My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by packinpatland
        Getting back to BB being voted coach of the year.

        There's really no debating his coaching skills. He is very good, probably the best right now. But he broke the rules.

        There's no debating that Pete Rose was an exceptional baseball player, he was destined for the Baseball Hall of Fame. He broke the rules.
        In the case of both of those individuals their cheating did not affect their success. Belichick still would of won 16 games and Pete Rose still would of lead the league in hits. Yes, it is immoral to say that, since their cheating didn't affect their performance, that they shouldn't be punished for it, but that's the way I feel about it. Of course, it's kind of comparing apples to oranges considering BB cheated the actual game and Rose cheated out of the game. Either way, both should be in the HOF.
        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          Some of you need to just let it go, his team went 16-0 for god's sake. When was the last time it was done? I remember a lot of teams going 13-3.
          I dont recall any other coach ever fined $500,000 for cheating!

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          • #35
            And that is what really makes it hard to accept... he beat out "our" guy
            My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hurleyfan
              And that is what really makes it hard to accept... he beat out "our" guy
              True.......plus our guy's team got the shit beat out of them by the fucking Bears when we really needed a win.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #37
                Since '03, the coach that won this award has not won the Super Bowl (Pats did it last time though).

                Guess history would bode well for us...
                The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                Vince Lombardi

                "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                • #38
                  BB is not that great of a coach folks. HE has the talent around him to be great. Look at his years as a browns head coach I dont think he did anything that great there...
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Fosco33
                    Since '03, the coach that won this award has not won the Super Bowl (Pats did it last time though).

                    Guess history would bode well for us...
                    What's the track record of the runner up?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fosco33
                      Since '03, the coach that won this award has not won the Super Bowl (Pats did it last time though).

                      Guess history would bode well for us...
                      You do know how to make me feel better...
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #41
                        My older brother and I were having a friendly argument/discussion the other day about Belichick and Spygate, and he defended the position that there was too much made of the whole thing and Belichick was punished well enough. I strongly disagreed with him, and called him a Belichick apologist. We were watching the Giants/Patriots game and I was rooting for the Pats to lose because I didn't want to see the 'Cheat go undefeated. He said it was fun to watch them play, and while I can't disagree that they are a great team, it doesn't change the taste in my mouth over what someone would do against the rules to try and win. I think the NFL wanted everyone to think that they came hard after BB, but really the punishment was light. Robert Kraft probably paid his 500K fine out of some other business he has and he told his accountant to try and deduct it or write it off the books, and as for the losing the draft pick, yeah, that's tough, but thanks to the over-exuberant 49'ers thinking this was their year and giving away their 2008 first round pick (#7 as it's turning out), to get the Patriots 2007 #28 pick, the Patriots have an even better first round pick to more than make up for the loss, plus the Patriots smartly used the 4th rounder that the 49'ers also included in the draft day deal last year to give to Oakland for Randy Moss before TT could give his 4th to Al Davis. How did BB and NE suffer? It's ridiculous to insist that they suffered for what they did.

                        They should have had to forfeit that game against the Jets, which would have tarnished the perfect record, and BB should have been suspended 4 games and fined as well. Hell, Wade Wilson, the Dallas QB's coach was suspended at least that many games for taking HGH under a doctor's orders, not even enhancing anything, while BB openly goes against the rules, cheats, never shows contrition and gets a light punishment. Then the league destroys the evidence as quickly as it can and levies the punishment because they want the issue to go away very quickly and not hurt the league's image, and the image of one of the best teams. It stinks.

                        [/soapbox]

                        This is still my favorite thing after the scandal....

                        "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                        • #42
                          I've tried to stay out of this, but I just cant.

                          In baseball there are people trying to steal signals during the game all the time. Watch a hitters eyes look back and down while getting into his stance. There is waaaaay too much being made about this video taping.

                          If you think that no one has ever cheated fine, but thats just not reality. The Pats just happened to get caught. 16-0 has never been done and it had little to do with attempting to lip-read a defensive coordinator IMO.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #43
                            I'm of the belief that if you cheated you should be automatically disqualified from winning this award. The fact that he went 16-0, while amazing, still doesn't mean that he did the best coaching job.

                            Hence, look at the '72 Dolphins who's coach Don Shula didn't even win the award that year Dan Devine did of the (ironically) Green Bay Packers.

                            I still think they should have been forced to forfiet that game against the Jets, but that's just my opinion.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by The_Dude
                              I'm of the belief that if you cheated you should be automatically disqualified from winning this award.
                              I agree.

                              People like us will never know the whole truth about the deal but it sure did appear that the NFL slapped a fine on in order to pacify people and they quickly tried to brush it under the rug.

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                              • #45
                                So every time you speed, you should turn yourself in to the police. I know he won an award but cmon. This isn't the Pulizter here.
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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