Belichick Voted Coach of the Year

[Bretsky]

To my mind he'll always be a cheater. This season for him will always be tarnished. However, to my mind he starts with a clean slate next year. If he earns the award next year when he hasn't cheated for it, so be it. But there will always be the wonder in the back of my mind as to how much of his genius this season was learned by watching the tapes he made of defensive calls from last year.

And I can pretty much guarantee you that this Randy Moss discussion will not go on for decades unless that is how long you intend to keep bringing it up.

He'll be yanking the rules around next year like the rest of them do. He's the best coach in the NFL...been that the past five years. If there was a yawn picture I'd create a big fat one here when discussing scamgate.

[Bretsky]

16-0, it is a nobrainer although I wish MM would have won the award.

I hope MM can win three SuperBowls and get to be 16-0.....with GB

[b bulldog]

That would be quite nice

[MJZiggy]

That would be quite nice

Agreed.

[Bretsky]

Then we are all in trouble.

Or parents can shift the focus to good role models

[MJZiggy]

They could. Do they?

[GrnBay007]

I believe 16-0 is very worthy of coach of the year. I also believe a coach that was caught cheating should also not be in the running for the award....I don't care if it had been MM....I'd feel the same.

Your position on this surprises me B. You were in sports all those years and I'm betting you would like to see your kids in sports. Will a cheating coach not bother you then either?

Why is society becoming "OK" with letting wrong stuff slide?

[Bretsky]

They could. Do they?

I can only speak for myself........and it appears that I can only reproduce chicks

[Bretsky]

I believe 16-0 is very worthy of coach of the year. I also believe a coach that was caught cheating should also not be in the running for the award....I don't care if it had been MM....I'd feel the same.

Your position on this surprises me B. You were in sports all those years and I'm betting you would like to see your kids in sports. Will a cheating coach not bother you then either?

Why is society becoming "OK" with letting wrong stuff slide?

I've also been a coach with the pressure to win in high school
My job has pressures to find loopholes to get things accomplished

I've always walked along the lines of using any loophole I can find to succeed.

The NFL has far greater pressures; they all do this in some sort of way; we are fooling ourselves if we think differently

To me this is no BFD

[MJZiggy]

They could. Do they?

I can only speak for myself........and it appears that I can only reproduce chicks

Is there something we should know? I thought you weren't finding out...

[Bretsky]

They could. Do they?

I can only speak for myself........and it appears that I can only reproduce chicks

Is there something we should know? I thought you weren't finding out...

Nope; I know nothing til February. Just figuring...ya know....

[MJZiggy]

Just remember I gave you the missing piece. If it's a girl, I did all I could.

[Deputy Nutz]

I believe 16-0 is very worthy of coach of the year. I also believe a coach that was caught cheating should also not be in the running for the award....I don't care if it had been MM....I'd feel the same.

Your position on this surprises me B. You were in sports all those years and I'm betting you would like to see your kids in sports. Will a cheating coach not bother you then either?

Why is society becoming "OK" with letting wrong stuff slide?

I've also been a coach with the pressure to win in high school
My job has pressures to find loopholes to get things accomplished

I've always walked along the lines of using any loophole I can find to succeed.

The NFL has far greater pressures; they all do this in some sort of way; we are fooling ourselves if we think differently

To me this is no BFD

It is amazing that most don't understand this concept.

[RashanGary]

I agree with Bretsky and Nutz. The guy deserves credit and if he pushed the limits of what was legal, who cares. He's competitive. He pushed it.

[GrnBay007]

I believe 16-0 is very worthy of coach of the year. I also believe a coach that was caught cheating should also not be in the running for the award....I don't care if it had been MM....I'd feel the same.

Your position on this surprises me B. You were in sports all those years and I'm betting you would like to see your kids in sports. Will a cheating coach not bother you then either?

Why is society becoming "OK" with letting wrong stuff slide?

I've also been a coach with the pressure to win in high school
My job has pressures to find loopholes to get things accomplished

I've always walked along the lines of using any loophole I can find to succeed.

The NFL has far greater pressures; they all do this in some sort of way; we are fooling ourselves if we think differently

To me this is no BFD

It is amazing that most don't understand this concept.

You get a call from your kid's principle at school to come in for a parent meeting. Find out your kid was cheating on a big semester test. Are you going to sympathize then because your kid was under so much "pressure" to get things accomplished and to succeed so the might get a scholarship?

You are married to the "perfect" woman....wonderful wife/mother. One day you walk in and find her cheating on you with the mailman (sorry Joe ). The next Sunday you go to Church and find out some little committee nominated her for wife/mother of the year. Hmmm....you going to be sympathetic because she probably only did the mailman because she was under so much pressure and stress to succeed with you in the bedroom.....you know what they say, practice makes perfect!!!

P
maybe time for us to agree to disagree.....but at least I got my rant in.