play CB? Just wondering I think that is our biggest weakness going into next year. I would think that beefing up the secondary and the offensive line would be the best moves but that is just me.
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I don't know where Collins fits in, but I'm beginning to think that it isn't as a starting safety. I'm hoping (I don't know whether we will see it) that we have a Rouse/Bigby Safety tandem in '08."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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finding in coverage yes I can see that but put him in bump and run coverage and I think he has the skill set to take on 2nd WRs.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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and lol how the hell did I miss that post?Originally posted by Harlan Hucklebywell, we had this argument to the tune of about 300 posts a couple months ago. IMO, Collins could probably be a nickle corner.
I think they are OK at safety. I agree that offensive line is a priority, followed by a new corner back for the future.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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I think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:
It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
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I think if Collins was asked to play some man coverage as a nickel back he would fair better than say Jarrett Bush. The nickel back plays on the outside receiver while Woodson takes the guy in the slot.Originally posted by pbmaxNo, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.
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Sounds like AJ Hawk to me.Originally posted by PatlerI think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:
It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
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?Originally posted by twosevenSounds like AJ Hawk to me.Originally posted by PatlerI think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:
It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
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The way the Packers use their CB's, finding the guy they're supposed to cover isn't much of a problem. They're usually lined up about a yard away from the receiver.Originally posted by pbmaxNo, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.I can't run no more
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While the killers in high places
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well Carroll seemed to have trouble...hehe had too!Originally posted by JoemailmanThe way the Packers use their CB's, finding the guy they're supposed to cover isn't much of a problem. They're usually lined up about a yard away from the receiver.Originally posted by pbmaxNo, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Probably pointing out that Hawk is solid, but not a playmaker. A strong part of that is the scheme; but there is some validity to it as wellOriginally posted by Deputy Nutz?Originally posted by twosevenSounds like AJ Hawk to me.Originally posted by PatlerI think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:
It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completionsTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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