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    play CB? Just wondering I think that is our biggest weakness going into next year. I would think that beefing up the secondary and the offensive line would be the best moves but that is just me.
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    well, we had this argument to the tune of about 300 posts a couple months ago. IMO, Collins could probably be a nickle corner.

    I think they are OK at safety. I agree that offensive line is a priority, followed by a new corner back for the future.

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    • #3
      I don't know where Collins fits in, but I'm beginning to think that it isn't as a starting safety. I'm hoping (I don't know whether we will see it) that we have a Rouse/Bigby Safety tandem in '08.
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      • #4
        Could they even try him at lb?

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        • #5
          No, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.
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          • #6
            finding in coverage yes I can see that but put him in bump and run coverage and I think he has the skill set to take on 2nd WRs.
            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              well, we had this argument to the tune of about 300 posts a couple months ago. IMO, Collins could probably be a nickle corner.

              I think they are OK at safety. I agree that offensive line is a priority, followed by a new corner back for the future.
              and lol how the hell did I miss that post?
              Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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              • #8
                I think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
                Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
                Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:

                Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
                It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pbmax
                  No, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.
                  I think if Collins was asked to play some man coverage as a nickel back he would fair better than say Jarrett Bush. The nickel back plays on the outside receiver while Woodson takes the guy in the slot.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    I think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
                    Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
                    Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:

                    Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
                    It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.
                    Sounds like AJ Hawk to me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by twoseven
                      Originally posted by Patler
                      I think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
                      Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
                      Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:

                      Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
                      It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.
                      Sounds like AJ Hawk to me.
                      ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pbmax
                        No, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.
                        The way the Packers use their CB's, finding the guy they're supposed to cover isn't much of a problem. They're usually lined up about a yard away from the receiver.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Joemailman
                          Originally posted by pbmax
                          No, can't see him at CB. He struggles at times with finding TEs.
                          The way the Packers use their CB's, finding the guy they're supposed to cover isn't much of a problem. They're usually lined up about a yard away from the receiver.
                          well Carroll seemed to have trouble...hehe had too!
                          Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                            Originally posted by twoseven
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            I think we are all missing something about Collins, apparently.
                            Collins was a Pro-Bowl alternate, not a first alternate, just alternate. That means some think he is something like the 6-9th best safety in the NFC.
                            Also, I was also surprised to read the following in the GBPG grading article:

                            Was targeted 46 times but gave up only 15 completions
                            It seems his biggest deficiency is failing to generate turnovers. Otherwise, he must be more solid than we think he is.
                            Sounds like AJ Hawk to me.
                            ?
                            Probably pointing out that Hawk is solid, but not a playmaker. A strong part of that is the scheme; but there is some validity to it as well
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                            • #15
                              Bigby may be are only playmaker on D, maybe kampy and Barnett as well but after those three???
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