Randy Moss refused to play for Packers, hung up on calls

[Cheesehead Craig]

Clearly, he isn't.

http://www.packersgab.com/2007/06/25...nsider-joyner/

I love when guys essentially create a mathematical system to prove their own point. Because if they used numbers, they can't be wrong.

I love how bad throws from a QB are used to show how bad the WR is.

Umm, how the hell does that make sense? That's like saying since the 3B keeps throwing the ball 10 feet over the 1B head, the 1B is a poor fielder.

[gbgary]

they're two completely different wr types. DD does the dirty work...slants, over-the-middle stuff, etc. moss is the go-deep-with-speed type. apples/oranges. it could have worked but we'll never know. the Packers didn't know if he had anything left or not just as the rest of the league didn't. the pats needed one puzzle piece...the Packers needed many more. they had nothing to lose.

[MadtownPacker]

Can we finally put this to bed now?

These comments settled it for me. Screw moss, and yes go giants.

[Carolina_Packer]

Re: Randy Moss refused to play for Packers, hung up on calls

Moss later was asked to explain what he meant by the Packers talking about the "wrong things."

He replied: "They were just talking about how their team concept, and the wide receivers, and Donald Driver, things like that. It's like they were telling me that they're going to somewhat take a chance on me, but if you do come here, these are the things that you have to watch out and be on your best behavior. And Donald Driver is the top receiver, so don't come in here and try to step on his toes, you know, things like that.

If he had an issue about the "team concept", why did he go to New England? They are one of the more team concept oriented teams in the NFL. Truth is, New England didn't already have a true #1 receiver, and New England at the time had more of a predictable chance to make the playoffs, which is why Randy ultimately preferred that opportunity.

The quote about the Packers not wanting him as much as Favre might fuel Woody's fire more than put it out, or put the matter to rest with him. If you still want a guy who didn't really want to be in Green Bay, then what do you say? Even if the front office had really wanted him, according to how Moss perceives being wanted, he may have still preferred going to New England. Either way, he was going to have to play within a "team concept".

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ATTN: Woodbuck!

[The Leaper]

Moss has stated all along that he wanted a one year deal...and the Packers weren't willing to do that. That is why Moss lost interest in Green Bay.

[Noodle]

I think folks are missing the point. The way I read this, Moss felt like the Pack viewed him as a trouble maker and were all in his grill warning him that DD was the man, he would have to accept his role, etc. I don't blame Moss a bit for saying screw that, I don't need people assuming I'm a bad guy, I'll go where the vibe is positive.

I hope TT views this as a learning experience. When you talk to a guy, don't tell him about limits, tell him instead about the limitless possbilities if he does x, y and z.

We would have been better with Moss. If anyone thinks otherwise, then you don't know what you are talking about.

[packinpatland]

I'm thinking the Packers are not going to get into a 'we said , he said'.......so it's all 'Randy said'. One year of being 'good' does not erase a carreer of acting like an ass.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think folks are missing the point. The way I read this, Moss felt like the Pack viewed him as a trouble maker and were all in his grill warning him that DD was the man, he would have to accept his role, etc. I don't blame Moss a bit for saying screw that, I don't need people assuming I'm a bad guy, I'll go where the vibe is positive.

I hope TT views this as a learning experience. When you talk to a guy, don't tell him about limits, tell him instead about the limitless possbilities if he does x, y and z.

We would have been better with Moss. If anyone thinks otherwise, then you don't know what you are talking about.

Better to be honest upfront with him and set the right expectations than have Randy think one thing, get here, decide he didn't like his role and then pout and decide to "play when he wants to play".

That would have been a far worse scenario.

[The Leaper]

We would have been better with Moss. If anyone thinks otherwise, then you don't know what you are talking about.

We may have been better...I'm not sure it would've helped in the NFCC game any. The cold (and Giant DL) hindered the deep passing game.

[b bulldog]

Moss would have helped the run just by the coverage he takes with him. I'm glad that he isn't in GB, he is a jerk imo.

[woodbuck27]

I find it interesting that 100 different people can read an article like that. Then interpret it based more on their prejudices than what the person interviewed is saying or revealing to the audience.

or. . .

People read into an article just what they want to, to agree with their overriding values, beliefs and prejudices.

What I read is just what I felt I already understood.

1. Randy Moss was on Brett Favre's wish list.

2. Favre even went so far as to try a personal contact or speak to Randy Moss and give that proposition (of Favre to Moss - TD!!) a personal touch. Favre didn't get there, or actually speak to Randy Moss as Randy Moss was busy elsewhere at the time of Favre's call (calls).

Otherwise the article tells us that Randy Moss certainly felt he and Brett Favre would be a good thing.

3. Contacts with the Packer brass didn't exactly evoke an inviting tone, as Randy Moss interpreted it. It was a sorta cookie before the ingredients thing.

The trouble is no ingredients - no cookiie.

4. Again back to my TT and the Poker game correlation.

I'm not at all surprized that TT sidled up to the table but in character or as usual ' having no guts ' to get right in the game. TT isn't exactly the warmest fella by reputation and as he has come off to me when on camera or interviewed.

This or TT's personality, may give us a load of problems during his tenure. He's cold as a stone at the bottom of the well. That doesn't attract talented playmakers, usualy. Talent attracts talent and more talent draws more still.

5. Randy Moss didn't really feel welcome in Green Bay. Is that hard to believe? NO!!

NOT FOR ME! TT didn't, either want him, or he really messed this one up terribly? Playing it over the top way too cool?

Wait TT went to bed feeling he had the deal made. Uhhhh!! Did Randy Moss tell him that? I don't believe that was the case.

Who's number one doesn't matter to a talent such as Randy Moss anyway as he knows he is THE NUMBER ONE WR; and if he enters TC otherwise he'll rise as he puts the ball in the end zone a lot.

ALL then same. . .PACKERS FOREVER!

[Kiwon]

Can we finally put this to bed now?

I could not agree more.

Frankly, I surprised it took to the Super Bowl week to finally hear directly from him about what went down.

The man's not in Green Bay because he didn't want to be in Green Bay. End of story.

[woodbuck27]

I think folks are missing the point. The way I read this, Moss felt like the Pack viewed him as a trouble maker and were all in his grill warning him that DD was the man, he would have to accept his role, etc. I don't blame Moss a bit for saying screw that, I don't need people assuming I'm a bad guy, I'll go where the vibe is positive.

I hope TT views this as a learning experience. When you talk to a guy, don't tell him about limits, tell him instead about the limitless possbilities if he does x, y and z.

We would have been better with Moss. If anyone thinks otherwise, then you don't know what you are talking about.

and well, of course!


Randy Moss refused to play for Packers, hung up on calls

NOPE!! The writing doesn't support that heading:

"When they started talking more about the wrong things I just hung the phone up and didn’t want to talk to them anymore. I thought that at first, it’s something that could have worked out, for the fact that Brett Favre was there, but I think as the conversations continued throughout the day or the next day, I didn’t really want to go to Green Bay." Randy Moss


''. . . I didn't feel that they really wanted me. I think Brett wanted me. I didn't think the Packers organization really wanted me." Randy Moss

The article tells the story as I understood it and says that TT didn"t have the GM skills to attract Randy Moss or didn't have his heart in, any plan to acquire this great talent for OUR team.

Ted Thompson in all his glory blows another one.

The verdict on this one is finally in. TT blew the possible Randy Moss deal and did so with his anal manner of pretending to be a the real man we need to take us to the TOP.

NO SUPER BOWLS for the GREEN BAY PACKERS under Ted Thompson as our GM. Mark it on all the walls. He doesn't have it Packer fans.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[twoseven]

Is Moss even going to be around in NE next year, he did just sign for one season. That'll be an expesive keeper for NE.