Randy Moss refused to play for Packers, hung up on calls

[Deputy Nutz]

I'll put it in Dr. Suess format for you...

WB: I am Woodbuck, Woodbuck I am...
TT: That Woodbuck fan, that Woodbuck fan, I do not like that Woodbuck fan.
WB: Would you, could you sign that Moss?
TT: I would not, could not sign that Moss.
WB: Would you sign him if I called your boss?
TT: Not calling my boss, not signing Moss, I do not like that Woodbuck guy, it's my job I'd like to see him try.
WB: Would you sign Moss for a 3rd?
TT: No, then of James Jones Packer fans never would have heard.
WB: Would you sign Moss on Day 2?
TT: I'll see, I'll see what I can do.
WB: Would you sign to a long term deal? Get him, get him, he's a steal.
TT: You realize that you are just a fan and that the Green Bay Packers made me the man?
WB: You suck, you suck, you never do what I say.
TT: I have, I have a different way.
WB: You are under pressure, you have much to fear.
TT: No shit Sherlock! It's like that every year.
WB: Would you, could you do as I say?
TT: I could, I could, there's no pleasing you anyway. If 13-3 did not do it for you Woodbuck, then I suggest it's you and not me and please take a flying...&%#$@

POST OF THE MOTHERF*@CKING YEAR!!!!

[woodbuck27]

I might question TT's ability to compete and convince a big time player to come here over other teams

But he has made some good PR moves....like giving guys like Harris and Driver raises that should also be positive PR to players considering GB

YES!

[woodbuck27]

As usual we got more ridiculous out of Woody.

This is the bottom line. Moss said the "organization," not TT.

There YOU GO then. Proving that Randy Moss is cool.

Randy Moss didn't take the low ball approach and tell us all it ws TT he was talking to when it was DAM well TT that he was talking to.

Nice points there for Randy Moss. what a nice fella he is and the model of comportment. Again where did TT get it wrong twisted?

He didn't as he felt he'd offered enough and had Randy Moss in the bag.

Suuuuuuurrrre TT.

Packers Forever!

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck;

Have you read the article about Wolf and his circuitous relationship getting Favre on his team?

According to Wolf, while with the Jets he had Favre ranked as the best player in the draft. The Jets had no 1st round draft choice, and figured Favre would go late first or early second. They thought they had a trade worked out a day ahead of time to move up in the draft and get him. At the last minute, just before the trade would have been announced, the other team pulled out of the trade because a player they really liked was still available. Favre didn't last to the Jets pick in the 2nd. Of course a year later Wolf got him for his team, but it was the Packers by then not the Jets.

How does Wolf thinking he had a deal enabling him to draft Favre for the Jets differ from TT thinking he had a trade for Moss? Until it is actually submitted to the NFL, either team can pull out. It happened to TT, it happened to Wolf.

By Golly I think WE have a winner!! Nice job Patler.

[woodbuck27]

You guys keep dancing around what I read in that article...IF TT wanted Moss. IF. I got the impression from that article that TT didn't even really want Moss and went into those discussions because Favre wanted him on the team. I get the impression that TT was more like those other 30 GM's than we think. And if I'm going after a malcontent that I'm not completely sold on, I'm damn sure gonna make certain he knows what's expected of him if he steps foot in my team's locker room. If he's not willing to play as a team, then let the other guys have him. Our boys did fine and in the end, I agree that Randy Moss wouldn't have gotten us any further than we got.

That's very insightful mj. Good stuff!!

That's what I like to read here at PackerRats.

Not the f,ing chop block posts or behavious that I last saw way back in Junior HS here in CANADA of course. Now of course, I know we have such a solid reputation for our manners and good sense as Canadians. To realize that, that works best. Why it amazes me, that a few of the Lad's here are somewhat (to be kind) manners challenged. Take a difference of opinion or focus different from theirs to the darkside is laughable to pathetic.

[woodbuck27]

The question now that any NFL player will have is:

''What kind of a person (personality) in Ted Thompson, am I going to have to deal with, if I consider Green Bay as my future team?''

Quick! Let's get our pitchforks and run the bastard out of town.

DAM well stuck with him for too many moons.

[woodbuck27]

I agree that Randy Moss wouldn't have gotten us any further than we got.

I agree as well. Unless the guy can play CB as good as he is a WR!

Bang On!!! A let's go to the heart of it, no sidestepping post.

TT souldn't have been faking the Randy Moss aquisition but trading Al Harris ( a mannequin gives us more at LCB ) and a bunch of cash and that 4th for Plaxico Burress.

and. . . Plaxico is telling us today, that the Pats and Randy Moss are toast.

If we can just get TT to STOP FAKING IT!!! We'll be so much better off.

[Scott Campbell]

Why it amazes me, that a few of the Lad's here are somewhat (to be kind) manners challenged.

Now you're Miss Manners too? What a joke.

[woodbuck27]

I'll put it in Dr. Suess format for you...

WB: I am Woodbuck, Woodbuck I am...
TT: That Woodbuck fan, that Woodbuck fan, I do not like that Woodbuck fan.
WB: Would you, could you sign that Moss?
TT: I would not, could not sign that Moss.
WB: Would you sign him if I called your boss?
TT: Not calling my boss, not signing Moss, I do not like that Woodbuck guy, it's my job I'd like to see him try.
WB: Would you sign Moss for a 3rd?
TT: No, then of James Jones Packer fans never would have heard.
WB: Would you sign Moss on Day 2?
TT: I'll see, I'll see what I can do.
WB: Would you sign to a long term deal? Get him, get him, he's a steal.
TT: You realize that you are just a fan and that the Green Bay Packers made me the man?
WB: You suck, you suck, you never do what I say.
TT: I have, I have a different way.
WB: You are under pressure, you have much to fear.
TT: No shit Sherlock! It's like that every year.
WB: Would you, could you do as I say?


** TT: I could, I could, there's no pleasing you anyway. If 13-3 did not do it for you Woodbuck, then I suggest it's you and not me and please take a flying...&%#$@

I almost gave you a decent mark until your attempt at something resembling writing prose went down the toilet with ** that last part.

You can't touch me appleseed.

[woodbuck27]

I was one who advocated for signing Moss last offseason, and obviously he has produced like no other receiver in history over the course of this regular season. However, Moss's upside potential was clearly not without an equal potential for a cancerous presence if things didn't go the way he wanted them to. His continuing personal problems are also a negative weight to the team.

I think the approach taken by the organization was justified, particularly when you look at the fact that they've put together a potent receiving group without the potential cancerous presence. With the production and depth we now have, it's hard to argue we'd really be much better off with him. Someone already mentioned it, but Moss would not likely have made a big difference against the G-Men.

You can second guess every decision a GM makes. You obviously have to look at the overall body of work and the actual results.

We keep sidestepping the real issue here and turn the argument to PRO Randy Moss or not. To lay the judgement on Randy Moss based in his past. By doing this we miss the right bus out of town. We get on the wrong journey.

The real issue is.

If we wanted Randy Moss on our roster (specifically if TT did)? Then how did he slip away to NE after we are aware that TT thought that he had him on our side before retiring to bed Draft weekend - Sat. night ?

TT thought he had him? What's that about? TT isn't paid to think he had's but to know he had's. Now we have this revealing article on TT's method of recruiting that is nothing short of being purely Juvenile, an insult to the Packer Organization if it's true.

This article on Randy Moss and why not the Green Bay Packers places the ball straight into the corner of TT's court and will be a difficult return for him. He may in his way even decide to ignore or sidestep it.

I see that as a serious error to only compound recruitment strategy's and give us the experienced talent we do need in specific positions or we just wait and wait. I hate to wait. I've waited another ten years. Favre hates to wait, the time is short in his hour glass.

The question now that any NFL player will have is:

''What kind of a person (personality) in Ted Thompson, am I going to have to deal with, if I consider Green Bay as my future team?''

When do you let it go, Woody? When you fall short in life, but succeed the majority of the rest of the time, do you appreciate someone constantly bringing up your failures to keep stomping on you? It does no good to keep harping on this issue as there is nothing to be gained from it. Everyone is painfully aware of how you feel about it. Move on already. Don't be a one trick pony.

DAM! DAM!! DAM!!!

For F_ _ _ S _ _ _'s

ONE TRICK PONY??? I'm just hoping we can all land on the same DAM page and understand this mystery man we don't know as Ted Thompson.

This isn't Rocket Science, merely a probe (again) into what makes TT tick? A lot of you take it as if I've called your Mother a rotten whatever. Made some insulting remark or joke against your wife and kids.

Lighten up fellas and lets see where this thread takes us. I actually believe we're making progress.

K?

PACKERS FOREVER!

[Carolina_Packer]

I almost gave you a decent mark until your attempt at something resembling writing prose went down the toilet with ** that last part.

You can't touch me appleseed.

Prose? That's poetry, Buckaroo!

And please, if you are going to swear, at least spell it right. It's Damn, not Dam. One is a curse, the other is holds water, unlike many of your opinions.

[woodbuck27]

Why it amazes me, that a few of the Lad's here are somewhat (to be kind) manners challenged.

Now you're Miss Manners too? What a joke.

Scott I know that isn't something you'll readily recognize with your many styles of blinders on.

In fact Scott Campbell I'm a very fine person and an exquisite gentleman and DAM proud of it all.

See Scott for what it wouldn't be worth to you. I was fortunate to have a fine upbringing. I owe it all to that. Well the manners anyway, and the rest of the positives are genetic.

[woodbuck27]

I almost gave you a decent mark until your attempt at something resembling writing prose went down the toilet with ** that last part.

You can't touch me appleseed.

Prose? That's poetry, Buckaroo!

And please, if you are going to swear, at least spell it right. It's Damn, not Dam. One is a curse, the other is holds water, unlike many of your opinions.

Poetry? mmmmmm. Where's the rhyme and, or the reason?

Damn! Your Damn right for a change in American.

Come up here to Oh Canada and we'll teach you another way to spell.

[Scott Campbell]

In fact Scott Campbell I'm a very fine person and an exquisite gentleman and DAM proud of it all.

I don't believe any of it, except for the (false) pride part.

[woodbuck27]

In fact Scott Campbell I'm a very fine person and an exquisite gentleman and DAM proud of it all.

I don't believe any of it, except for the (false) pride part.

Whatever Scott. Now crawl into another sandbox please. Your boreing me.