Holy Crap! Favre'll show up for camp!

[Chevelle2]

Chevelle is so worked up, he's inventing words. Mediocracy?

Bushism

[woodbuck27]

Seeing is believing and until Favre is in camp with the rest of the team then I can't get excited over this.

Who knows what "revelations" might come out in the interim? Who knows if Favre won't change his mind again and retire/quit? Who knows if TT doesn't get a great offer for Favre and trades him away?

I hoped that Favre would come to camp and compete all along. The loveable dipstick has created trouble the whole offseason. I wish he would ignore the media circus he helped to create and just be quiet and play.

Yes! and Personality's ...hard to change.

[texaspackerbacker]

People are dreaming if they think Favre will be starting for the Packers.

He won't, and he shouldn't. The team is better off with Rodgers at QB. Favre can play his chess game by saying he will report even though he hasn't even filed for reinstatement. He may actually even report. However, I'm fairly sure the decision has been made that he won't start.

Which is the best case scenario? We snag a first round pick from the Jets or whoever? Brett quietly fades back into retirement? Or he reports, is paid his $12 million, and rides the bench/serves as insurance against a Rodgers injury?

I'd be very happy with any of those. I honestly think Brett is suggestive enough that if handled correctly, he could be content as a backup--being "one of the guys" and an enthusiastic back-slapping member of a winning team. If that happens, though, the Packers should hire armed guards to keep trouble-making media assholes far away from him with their insidious questions.

[Kiwon]

Seeing is believing and until Favre is in camp with the rest of the team then I can't get excited over this.

Who knows what "revelations" might come out in the interim? Who knows if Favre won't change his mind again and retire/quit? Who knows if TT doesn't get a great offer for Favre and trades him away?

I hoped that Favre would come to camp and compete all along. The loveable dipstick has created trouble the whole offseason. I wish he would ignore the media circus he helped to create and just be quiet and play.

Yes! and Personality's ...hard to change.

I know, wishful thinking on my part.

At least Packer fans can't complain about being overlooked by the national media. Green Bay's hotels, motels should be running full pretty soon.

[The Shadow]

That's how Favre see's it too M.

he is 'in control'.

He waited as long as he could to slap that one on TT. It is a game of Cat n' Mouse that begins with TT and will end with Favre winning.

I assure y'all of that. TT can't play Favre's game. It's called 'the Right Way'.

Favre is not going to become the starting QB in Green Bay by playing public relations games.

Right but he is the starting QB for OUR team last I saw. He will START IF HE SO DESIRES.

FAVRE STUMBLED. HE'S HUMAN BUT HE WINS THE LONG SUIT OR THE END GAME.

EASY TO WIN VS TED THOMPSON THOUGH HH.

Yup, Brett Favre is really winning the Spoiled Diva competition, hands down.

[vince]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/

Who do you blame for the Brett Favre mess?

Brett Favre...............8,686............72% of all votes
Ted Thompson.........2,595............22% of all votes
Bus Cook.................623................5% of all votes
Mike McCarthy..........148................1% of all votes

Total Votes...............12,052

[MJZiggy]

That's how Favre see's it too M.

he is 'in control'.

He waited as long as he could to slap that one on TT. It is a game of Cat n' Mouse that begins with TT and will end with Favre winning.

I assure y'all of that. TT can't play Favre's game. It's called 'the Right Way'.

Favre is not going to become the starting QB in Green Bay by playing public relations games.

Right but he is the starting QB for OUR team last I saw. He will START IF HE SO DESIRES.

FAVRE STUMBLED. HE'S HUMAN BUT HE WINS THE LONG SUIT OR THE END GAME.

EASY TO WIN VS TED THOMPSON THOUGH HH.

Dunno, Buck last I saw, he was retired...He won't start until he does the paperwork no matter how much he desires it. And all we've heard so far are contradictions.

[BZnDallas]

my first post on this whole dilema

i'm not going to type up here and call people names... i'll even try not to argue with other people b/c every one has their own opinions... opinions are like armpits... everybody has them and they all stink...

first of all i think with favre the packers are a solid super bowl contender... with rodgers i think we are a solid playoff team... now obviously both senarios depend on each man staying healthy the whole year...

secondly i wish favre wouldn't have retired in march... i wish he would have come back the first time (before the draft and OTAs) when TT and MM were going to let him be the starter... and i believe if he would keep his mouth shut and show up for training camp he could beat out AR and be the starter opening day '08... and i also believe its because of his wishy/washy antics that it has come down to that...

thirdly i am ultimately a GB Packer FAN!... as of now BF is my fav. player (and i have the bobble heads, jersey, signed mini helmet, etc... to prove it)... but i'll be a Packer fan whether brett suits up for the green and gold or not... at first i wasn't too sure about TT... he made moves i didn't understand and i questioned him... then he made a couple more moves i questioned... but as far as i'm concerned he has done a hell of a job building this team and putting young playmakers around the QB position... i will trust TT in the decision he makes about this absurd BF fiasco b/c i think he has shown he deserves it...

all i know is, i want this whole ordeal to end... i'd prefer to see brett come to training camp and try and win the starting job back... if not i'd like to see him come back and be a backup/mentor... after that i'd prefer he retire... and if those three senarios don't pan out, it would be really weird watching him in another jersey throwing rockets to other recievers... does he really want to put his original fans through that?... is coming back to play another year or two worth it to him that much? its not for me to say... i'll watch whoever is under center for my GB Packers every sunday/monday/or thursday... and live and die by my green and gold!!

[Defense First]

I blame Father Time.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/

Who do you blame for the Brett Favre mess?

Brett Favre...............8,686............72% of all votes
Ted Thompson.........2,595............22% of all votes
Bus Cook.................623................5% of all votes
Mike McCarthy..........148................1% of all votes

Total Votes...............12,052

[Gunakor]

Mr. RELIABLE = Brett Favre.

Huh??


Postseason Since 1998:

1 super bowl loss
19 touchdowns
19 interceptions
1 fumble.
3-7 record


3 Playoff Wins Since 1998

13-3 in 2007 season.Whats your point?

He at least got us to the darn playoff's mister.

If you want to argue that A-Rod can't lead this team to a SB win this year, I'll agree with you. But don't suggest that Rodgers can't lead this team to the playoffs. With the talent surrounding the QB on this team, I don't see how he doesn't get to the post season.

[Chevelle2]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

[Bretsky]

There are two ways of looking at it. And its not at all certain which way is correct. But TT & MM have the right to make the choice.

Exactly. and I will support them if they make the right choice!

Will you support them if they make the right choice even if it isn't the one you agree with right now?

Will you support them even if they make the wrong choice because you support the Green Bay Packers?

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

[Zool]

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

At the same time, you cant support the team and call Favre an idiot without being called a Favre hater. And in Shadow's case, get told to "fuck off". Can't wait till September.

[Bretsky]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

[Gunakor]

There are two ways of looking at it. And its not at all certain which way is correct. But TT & MM have the right to make the choice.

Exactly. and I will support them if they make the right choice!

Will you support them if they make the right choice even if it isn't the one you agree with right now?

Will you support them even if they make the wrong choice because you support the Green Bay Packers?

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

I can criticize the decisions our GM makes while remaining supportive of our GM himself. And it's not fair to judge TT's entire tenure as our GM on one single decision. He's made a helluva lot of good decisions that led to 13-3 last year. That can't be overlooked.

In any case, he won't get it wrong. If Favre comes back to Green Bay and starts then TT wins. If Rodgers starts and begins a new era of consistent winning then TT wins. If Favre leaves and Rodgers stinks and Brohm comes in as the savior in the coming seasons then TT wins. The only way TT loses is if Green Bay returns to the Siberia of the NFL that it was in the 70's and 80's. As stacked as he's made this team for Rodgers/Favre/Brohm/whoever, I don't see that as even a remote possibility.