Holy Crap! Favre'll show up for camp!

[Bretsky]

Mr. RELIABLE = Brett Favre.

Huh??


Postseason Since 1998:

1 super bowl loss
19 touchdowns
19 interceptions
1 fumble.
3-7 record


3 Playoff Wins Since 1998

13-3 in 2007 season.Whats your point?

He at least got us to the darn playoff's mister.

If you want to argue that A-Rod can't lead this team to a SB win this year, I'll agree with you. But don't suggest that Rodgers can't lead this team to the playoffs. With the talent surrounding the QB on this team, I don't see how he doesn't get to the post season.

IMO AROD makes us a strong playoff contender if he stays healthy
IMO Favre makes us a strong SB contender

Reality IMO is barring injuries if we get near average play from our QB we should be in the playoff hunt and probably win the division.

[Bretsky]

There are two ways of looking at it. And its not at all certain which way is correct. But TT & MM have the right to make the choice.

Exactly. and I will support them if they make the right choice!

Will you support them if they make the right choice even if it isn't the one you agree with right now?

Will you support them even if they make the wrong choice because you support the Green Bay Packers?

As fans we have the right to criticize when GM's make the wrong decision. You can be a Packer fan and still ridicule...or glorify...a GM's decision

I can criticize the decisions our GM makes while remaining supportive of our GM himself. And it's not fair to judge TT's entire tenure as our GM on one single decision. He's made a helluva lot of good decisions that led to 13-3 last year. That can't be overlooked.

In any case, he won't get it wrong. If Favre comes back to Green Bay and starts then TT wins. If Rodgers starts and begins a new era of consistent winning then TT wins. If Favre leaves and Rodgers stinks and Brohm comes in as the savior in the coming seasons then TT wins. The only way TT loses is if Green Bay returns to the Siberia of the NFL that it was in the 70's and 80's. As stacked as he's made this team for Rodgers/Favre/Brohm/whoever, I don't see that as even a remote possibility.

Completely Agree

[Gunakor]

Mr. RELIABLE = Brett Favre.

Huh??


Postseason Since 1998:

1 super bowl loss
19 touchdowns
19 interceptions
1 fumble.
3-7 record


3 Playoff Wins Since 1998

13-3 in 2007 season.Whats your point?

He at least got us to the darn playoff's mister.

If you want to argue that A-Rod can't lead this team to a SB win this year, I'll agree with you. But don't suggest that Rodgers can't lead this team to the playoffs. With the talent surrounding the QB on this team, I don't see how he doesn't get to the post season.

IMO AROD makes us a strong playoff contender if he stays healthy
IMO Favre makes us a strong SB contender

Reality IMO is barring injuries if we get near average play from our QB we should be in the playoff hunt and probably win the division.

Agreed, and to be honest with all of the offseason distractions and such there really isn't anything more I ask for from this season. Just a division win and a playoff berth. I'm happy with that. Remember, this is the beginning of a new era here. A division win and playoff appearance is a great way to get the new era underway.

[Chevelle2]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

I think his regular season achievements are fantastic. I just think that he doesn't have what it takes to get us to the SB. His past teams, were pretty good.

1998: 13-3
2001: 12-4
2002: 12-4
2003: 10-6
2004: 10-6
2007: 13-3

Average wins per year: 11.53

[GBRulz]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

[Chevelle2]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

The verbiage is cute, but the FACTS say otherwise.

[Bretsky]

In fact, if Rodgers can't win 3 playoff games within the next 5 years, let alone 10, he doesn't belong on this team.

To be honest I love debating this Favre stuff and enjoy rapping back and forth with a strong majority of the posters in here. Gunakor...Mailman....Vince...most in here....they are realistic enough where we can agree to disagree in a friendly matter.

But this continuous trashing of Favre and dwelling on his playoff record alone while ignoring his accomplishments IMO discredit you enough to make it hard to take your over the top views serious enough to debate.

I think his regular season achievements are fantastic. I just think that he doesn't have what it takes to get us to the SB. His past teams, were pretty good.

1998: 13-3
2001: 12-4
2002: 12-4
2003: 10-6
2004: 10-6
2007: 13-3

Average wins per year: 11.53

I didn't mean to criticize you if it seemed like I was, but you come accross as an over the top hater when you dwell on that in bold print. It seems to be your mojo and what I recognize you by.

I'd much prefer a breakdown of the playoff losses. Without doing the research the game that I try to blackout is the Rams game...quite possibly the worst performance I've seen by a QB in the playoffs with all those INT's.

Early on, when Favre got those MVP's, we were not nearly as good as Dallas.
He seemed to play well in those lossed overall but did throw some costly INT's. Those Dallas teams were so stacked he was often trying to make a play out of nothing. Sometimes those work and sometimes not.

It's hard for me to trash him for the Phily game. Sherman was at his worst that game. The Packers dominated that game statistically and on the ground. Favre had a very very solid game until that last nightmarish throw.
But Sherman lost that game when he didn't go for it on 4th and 1. I don't even want to go back to 4th and 26; obviously that was ugly too. But what really sticks out in my mind was 4th and 1 and we punt when the Eagles DL are completely sucking wind.

The Giants game. Favre was good in half one, decent in quarter 3, and terrible in quarter 4 and OT. You can throw the hard dart at him for that game....but there are MANY darts to go around.

Green Bay got little to no pressure on Eli Manning (special thanks to Sanders)
Al Harris had a rough game to say the least
Brandon Jackson running up his OL's ass& a flipping LB makes that tackle
Ruvell Martin drops and incredibly key pass
J Bush fails to fall on the dam fumble
And the horrible horrible pass

ALL of those factors led to our terrible loss and if you modify any of them we might have been in the Super Bowl.

My overall point ? Favre has not been great or terrible in playoff games IMO

When breaking that record, it's not that telling of Favre's career.

Last, but not least, IMO Favre has the best chance of taking us back to the SB

I'm a now guy; that's why I want to see him as our QB despite the bullshit.

[Chevelle2]

^Ill get back to you tomorrow I gotta run.

Believe it or not, I LOVE Favre, Im just ready for it to be over.

[Bretsky]

^Ill get back to you tomorrow I gotta run.

Believe it or not, I LOVE Favre, Im just ready for it to be over.

I find it very hard to believe you to be anything but a hater

[MJZiggy]

I have a worry. Someone please tell me I'm completely off even thinking it...but what if Favre comes back, the fans and media become a major distraction and after a couple days of it (cause we KNOW that's all it would take) Favre moves practice into the Hutson Center and closes them to press and public? He'd have a reason to do it at that point....

[GBRulz]

Believe it or not, I LOVE Favre, Im just ready for it to be over.

LOL - I would hate to see it when there is someone you actually don't like.

[GBRulz]

I have a worry. Someone please tell me I'm completely off even thinking it...but what if Favre comes back, the fans and media become a major distraction and after a couple days of it (cause we KNOW that's all it would take) Favre moves practice into the Hutson Center and closes them to press and public? He'd have a reason to do it at that point....

Seriously, if they start pulling that shit, the city and fans will turn on them so fast and that is something they cannot afford being a publicly owned team.

So yeah, you are completely off based on your thinking....but what's new? :P

[MJZiggy]

Just for that, watch him do it!!

[Bretsky]

Brewers lost
Packer frustration

Dang, I'm looking for a lesbian show

[GBRulz]

I know, right?

M3 practices indoors enough as it is. His reasoning... "To provide a constant environment." What that means, I have no clue.