McCarthy: Favre's days as our starting QB are over

[boiga]

Not exactly. What TT said was the Brett would be welcome to come back and that the Packers would be a better team with him on the roster. However, if he comes back, it would have to be with the understanding that "his role has changed."

Ted never exactly clarified what that meant. They have been explicit in not ruling out the possibility that he could start. However, they also leave the door open to his being the back up, and have never mentioned what kind of competition they might allow between him and Rodgers.

Their stance is, "Come on back, we'll figure out what to do with you when you're on the roster."

[motife]

the questions and answers were very good:

(After reinstatement and then a physical, what comes next?)
If we get to that point, number one. See what kind of shape he is in, just like you do with any player that you haven't seen in a while. See what kind of shape he is in; we haven't seen Brett since the last game. I saw him Saturday night. He looks good; he looks like he is in good shape. We'll have some type of workout for him. We'd have to evaluate where he is.

(So you might have a workout, and then what?)
We have a program for that. Maybe one or two options; put him through the individual part of it, put him in the rehab or prehab program. We'd have to see what kind of shape he is in first.

(Do you know if Brett has been working out with the same people he did in the past?)
API? My understanding is he has not.

Would there be any concern about his conditioning?)
He is obviously genetically gifted. I don't think anybody can deny that. That's something I would wait to have an opinion on.

(How difficult was it for you to tell Brett that the team was moving on?)
My recollection of that conversation and his is a little different, but things that were said in that conversation were number one, in the best interest of the football team. To me, when I talked to Brett on June 20, it still wasn't confirmed that he wanted to come back, that he was 100 percent. That's really the essence of the conversation that was important to me. I know we talked for a long time. I know it's been tough on him. It's a process that none of us wanted to go through. It's not like Brett Favre called me up and I said, 'No way, you can't come back.' That wasn't the case.

(If a player goes on national television and basically calls his boss a liar, how do you deal with that?)
Just how we're dealing with it today, and how we've dealt with it since Day 1. We've taken the high road, for as difficult as it's been at times, that's where we are as an organization. That's where Mark Murphy is based on his communication, that's where Ted Thompson is, and that's where I am.

(Is this the toughest thing you have had to deal with as a coach?)
Yeah, I'd say so. I think that would be accurate.

(In what way?)
Time. Commitment of time. It's about winning football games, and there's been a large time commitment to this.

Is there any chance that Brett will be the starting quarterback for the Packers again?)
You never say never. Once again, he's on reserve/retired, and if he reinstates he'll be a part of our roster. That's about as far as really we can go.

(Aaron has been patient, waiting for his turn, so do you think it would damage his development to sit another year and make it harder for the team to re-sign him?)
Those are all very practical concerns, but because of the direction and the commitment we've made to Aaron and the direction this 2008 football team is going, it's something I'm not concerned about.

(Ted is your boss; did he order you to go with Aaron as your starting quarterback, or did he defer to your quarterback expertise and allow you to make that call?)
I'll say this ... the only thing I've ever been ordered to do as the head coach of the Green Bay Packers is to come to these press conferences, and that's the truth. We're 100 percent committed to Aaron.

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(Do you feel that the team has handled this properly or do you think mistakes have been made along the way?)
I think that's a great question. We've talked about a number of times doing an autopsy of this situation, because I think there are so many lessons to learn from this. I think the first aspect you have to look closely at is communication. Usually when you have problems and things get to the point that we're in right now, it's potentially a problem. All those things will be looked at. There is no script for this, because if there is one, we would have found it already. But I'll just say this. I think as an organization, and the people involved in the organization, I think we've handled it the right way based on doing what's best for the Green Bay Packers, and also respecting Brett Favre and his career here. That has been a challenge.

(Are you concerned at all that the relationship will be adversarial now in the future?)
Well, it takes two sides to every relationship. I know how the Green Bay Packers feel, and they're very strong as far as their commitment to people that work here, the traditions of the Green Bay Packers, and the legacies of the players who have played here. I know there's a very strong respect and willingness to continue that relationship.

[RashanGary]

Not exactly. What TT said was the Brett would be welcome to come back and that the Packers would be a better team with him on the roster. However, if he comes back, it would have to be with the understanding that "his role has changed."

Ted never exactly clarified what that meant. They have been explicit in not ruling out the possibility that he could start. However, they also leave the door open to his being the back up, and have never mentioned what kind of competition they might allow between him and Rodgers.

Their stance is, "Come on back, we'll figure out what to do with you when you're on the roster."

Yep. Sounds like they'll have him working with the training staff for a little while. That's certainly a different role.

[Kiwon]

Not exactly. What TT said was the Brett would be welcome to come back and that the Packers would be a better team with him on the roster. However, if he comes back, it would have to be with the understanding that "his role has changed."

Ted never exactly clarified what that meant. They have been explicit in not ruling out the possibility that he could start. However, they also leave the door open to his being the back up, and have never mentioned what kind of competition they might allow between him and Rodgers.

Their stance is, "Come on back, we'll figure out what to do with you when you're on the roster."

Thanks, boiga. Good post.

[Partial]

* McCarthy hedged quite a bit when pressed about what will happen if Favre shows up, but it sounds like the quarterback would have to pass a physical, then spend some time working on the side with the rehab group before he would be cleared to practice. If he gets through that, he could practice. McCarthy wouldn't directly address those hypotheticals, though, noting repeatedly that Favre first must apply for reinstatement. Favre still hasn't told McCarthy "specifically" that he's 100 percent sure he'll play this season, nor that he'll report.



This is kind of what I was hoping for. They can keep him in the Don Hutson Center for about a week or three to work him into shape. This keeps him away from the team and away from the offense. Then when the team feels he's ready "hopefully never" They can trot him out there. TC is only a few weeks long so hopefully they can stall enough to get him on another team.

I personally hope that the Packers are practicing outside and Favre deliberating overshoots a receiver and drills you square in the dome with a heater. Maybe it would knock some sense into you.

I don't think I've met anyone who has such a lack of respect for one of the greatest players ever. It would almost be worth it to see the Packers fail miserably and have A-Rod put up at 45.0 rating while Favre guides a team to the playoffs just to see you leave this place in shame.

[PackerBlues]

* McCarthy hedged quite a bit when pressed about what will happen if Favre shows up, but it sounds like the quarterback would have to pass a physical, then spend some time working on the side with the rehab group before he would be cleared to practice. If he gets through that, he could practice. McCarthy wouldn't directly address those hypotheticals, though, noting repeatedly that Favre first must apply for reinstatement. Favre still hasn't told McCarthy "specifically" that he's 100 percent sure he'll play this season, nor that he'll report.



This is kind of what I was hoping for. They can keep him in the Don Hutson Center for about a week or three to work him into shape. This keeps him away from the team and away from the offense. Then when the team feels he's ready "hopefully never" They can trot him out there. TC is only a few weeks long so hopefully they can stall enough to get him on another team.

I personally hope that the Packers are practicing outside and Favre deliberating overshoots a receiver and drills you square in the dome with a heater. Maybe it would knock some sense into you.

I don't think I've met anyone who has such a lack of respect for one of the greatest players ever. It would almost be worth it to see the Packers fail miserably and have A-Rod put up at 45.0 rating while Favre guides a team to the playoffs just to see you leave this place in shame.

Partial <-----------What he said.

[alquaal]

"I personally hope that the Packers are practicing outside and Favre deliberating overshoots a receiver and drills you square in the dome with a heater. Maybe it would knock some sense into you. "

I know this wasn't aimed at me but I do agree with JustinHarrell. I will be at several practices this TC but I aint too scared. I will be wearing a Packers jersey. I'll be plenty safe from Favre fastballs ( in the incredibley unlikely circumstance that he would actually be there). A Giants jersey? Not so much.

[RashanGary]

What's up Aqual, I'm from Iron MOuntain. . . NOt too far for your home town.

[Zool]

I personally hope that the Packers are practicing outside and Favre deliberating overshoots a receiver and drills you square in the dome with a heater. Maybe it would knock some sense into you.

I don't think I've met anyone who has such a lack of respect for one of the greatest players ever. It would almost be worth it to see the Packers fail miserably and have A-Rod put up at 45.0 rating while Favre guides a team to the playoffs just to see you leave this place in shame.

Partial <-----------What he said.

This should give you some perspective P.

[Packerarcher]

* McCarthy hedged quite a bit when pressed about what will happen if Favre shows up, but it sounds like the quarterback would have to pass a physical, then spend some time working on the side with the rehab group before he would be cleared to practice. If he gets through that, he could practice. McCarthy wouldn't directly address those hypotheticals, though, noting repeatedly that Favre first must apply for reinstatement. Favre still hasn't told McCarthy "specifically" that he's 100 percent sure he'll play this season, nor that he'll report.



This is kind of what I was hoping for. They can keep him in the Don Hutson Center for about a week or three to work him into shape. This keeps him away from the team and away from the offense. Then when the team feels he's ready "hopefully never" They can trot him out there. TC is only a few weeks long so hopefully they can stall enough to get him on another team.

I personally hope that the Packers are practicing outside and Favre deliberating overshoots a receiver and drills you square in the dome with a heater. Maybe it would knock some sense into you.

I don't think I've met anyone who has such a lack of respect for one of the greatest players ever. It would almost be worth it to see the Packers fail miserably and have A-Rod put up at 45.0 rating while Favre guides a team to the playoffs just to see you leave this place in shame.

Partial,you have to remember not only is JH an idiot he is a bandwagon packer fan that jumped on in the last 4 or 5 years. In that extensive time as a "fan" he has become more knowledgeable than any coach or analyst.

[Bretsky]

READ HIS QUOTE ABOUT J HARRELL

Has to be a concern

He's not there yet; we'll take it week to week. Does not sound promising

[Deputy Nutz]

I hope McCarthy realizes the pressure that he is putting on Rodgers when he keeps announcing him the as the "Starting Quarterback no matter what happens".

The Packers plan on trading Favre, bottom line. I hope it is to the Jets, because I think a Favre Jets Jersey would be pretty cool looking.

This whole situation sucks, On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

On the other hand, Favre quit. He pretended to hang up his helmet and cleats. The Packers had to turn over the football team to Rodgers.

Has anyone cared to ask Rodgers how he feels about being given the starting job without having to compete for it? Here is where the pressure comes in, if his play doesn't back it up, not only is he fucked, but McCarthy and Thompson will be stoned by the same people that have switched to their side in the Packers verse Brett Favre. Mark my words, this franchise as we know it now rests completely on Aaron Rodgers' shoulders.

Lastly, if Favre wants to play football the Packers need to do the honorable thing and let him play. If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre. He deserves better than that even after that god awful interview with Greta.

[gex]

I hope McCarthy realizes the pressure that he is putting on Rodgers when he keeps announcing him the as the "Starting Quarterback no matter what happens".

The Packers plan on trading Favre, bottom line. I hope it is to the Jets, because I think a Favre Jets Jersey would be pretty cool looking.

This whole situation sucks, On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

On the other hand, Favre quit. He pretended to hang up his helmet and cleats. The Packers had to turn over the football team to Rodgers.

Has anyone cared to ask Rodgers how he feels about being given the starting job without having to compete for it? Here is where the pressure comes in, if his play doesn't back it up, not only is he fucked, but McCarthy and Thompson will be stoned by the same people that have switched to their side in the Packers verse Brett Favre. Mark my words, this franchise as we know it now rests completely on Aaron Rodgers' shoulders.

Lastly, if Favre wants to play football the Packers need to do the honorable thing and let him play. If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre. He deserves better than that even after that god awful interview with Greta.

Excellent post and very good perspective.

[MJZiggy]

I hope McCarthy realizes the pressure that he is putting on Rodgers when he keeps announcing him the as the "Starting Quarterback no matter what happens".

The Packers plan on trading Favre, bottom line. I hope it is to the Jets, because I think a Favre Jets Jersey would be pretty cool looking.

This whole situation sucks, On one side you have Favre, who technically never lost his job as the starting QB. Rodgers certainly never beat him out of the position.

On the other hand, Favre quit. He pretended to hang up his helmet and cleats. The Packers had to turn over the football team to Rodgers.

Has anyone cared to ask Rodgers how he feels about being given the starting job without having to compete for it? Here is where the pressure comes in, if his play doesn't back it up, not only is he fucked, but McCarthy and Thompson will be stoned by the same people that have switched to their side in the Packers verse Brett Favre. Mark my words, this franchise as we know it now rests completely on Aaron Rodgers' shoulders.

Lastly, if Favre wants to play football the Packers need to do the honorable thing and let him play. If Favre just wants to play football he should have no problems going to the Jets. I don't like it one bit that the Packers are trying to sit on Favre. He deserves better than that even after that god awful interview with Greta.

The one tiny little point that you're missing in all of this is that it's Favre's move in the chess match, not the team's. IF Favre wants to play is looking like a big if because his actions don't back up his words. The Packers aren't trying to do anything with him (except give the Jets permission to talk to him). There's no sitting on him going on.

[Jimx29]

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I looked high and hard at both of your first two posts and i'm not seeing anywhere where coach said anything at all like "Favre's days as our starting quarterback are over"

Why would you have that in the thread title? Are ya practicing writing for espn?