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  • Grant's Agent Hung Up on Packers Negotiator

    Grant's agent: We're talking, but no progress on deal

    By Rob Demovsky • rdemovsk@greenbaypressgazette.com • July 31, 2008

    The Green Bay Packers are no closer to a deal with running back Ryan Grant than they were last weekend, when his agent Alan Herman disclosed just how far apart the two sides are on financial terms.
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    However, Herman said Thursday that the Packers have called him a couple of times this week to try to initiate talks.

    “I’ve had a few conversations since then – one very unproductive conversation and one that we would talk again,” Herman said. “We’ll see how that goes. Hopefully, there’s a change in their position. If there is, we’ll have an opportunity to make a deal. If there’s not, then we won’t. Things can change, but we’re not anywhere near a deal.”

    On Sunday, the eve of training camp, Herman blasted the Packers for the six-year offer they made to Grant. Herman said the team proposed a $1.75 million signing bonus and no other guaranteed money over the length of the deal. Herman was looking for at least twice that in a signing bonus and the possibility for Grant to earn salary escalators that would become guaranteed if he hit certain production marks.

    Herman said the Packers called Monday – a day after he went public with his displeasure over how the team was handling his client. That conversation “was about three seconds,” Herman said.

    “They wanted to keep the lines of communication open,” Herman said. “I understand the nature of the phone call.”

    Grant has missed five practices over the first three days of camp. There was no practice on Thursday, but workouts resume Friday with a pair of practices at 8:45 a.m., and 6:30 p.m. The weekend schedule includes an afternoon practice on Saturday and the annual intrasquad scrimmage at Lambeau Field on Sunday night. It seems likely that Grant will miss all of those activities.

    Grant, 25, is an exclusive rights free agent who would not become an unrestricted free agent until he plays three more seasons. He has only one season of accrued NFL service. He spent his rookie season on the New York Giants’ practice squad and his second season on the non-football injury list. He had only one season left on a minimum contract when the Packers acquired him from the Giants last September.

    That status – and that Grant rushed for 956 yards in essentially half a season last year – has made for difficult negotiations. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...099/1954/PKR03
    So, the guy wants to Packers to cave before even trying to negotiate a compromise.... is this guy related to Don Rumsfeld? Grant needs a new agent.

  • #2
    guaranteed money is everything...

    1.75 in 6 years... is a JOKE!!!

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    • #3
      Re: Grant's Agent Hung Up on Packers Negotiator

      Originally posted by boiga
      So, the guy wants to Packers to cave before even trying to negotiate a compromise.... is this guy related to Don Rumsfeld? Grant needs a new agent.
      OR The Packers organization needs to admit that Thompson and Murphy (to a lesser extent) have turned the Packers into an embarrassment to their fans.................and just fire both of them.......and their negotiator, just for good measure.

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      • #4
        Re: Grant's Agent Hung Up on Packers Negotiator

        Originally posted by PackerBlues
        OR The Packers organization needs to admit that Thompson and Murphy (to a lesser extent) have turned the Packers into an embarrassment to their fans.................and just fire both of them.......and their negotiator, just for good measure.
        Why stop there? We could rehire sherman as GM, mooch as the coach, trade Jennings, jones, and Driver to NE for Moss, and offer next years first and second picks to Seattle for Wahle?

        That would make Favre happy, which certainly improve the team, right?

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        • #5
          Re: Grant's Agent Hung Up on Packers Negotiator

          Originally posted by boiga
          Originally posted by PackerBlues
          OR The Packers organization needs to admit that Thompson and Murphy (to a lesser extent) have turned the Packers into an embarrassment to their fans.................and just fire both of them.......and their negotiator, just for good measure.
          Why stop there? We could rehire sherman as GM, mooch as the coach, trade Jennings, jones, and Driver to NE for Moss, and offer next years first and second picks to Seattle for Wahle?

          That would make Favre happy, which certainly improve the team, right?
          Gee, now your just being silly. I think Wahle is retired.

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          • #6
            Re: Grant's Agent Hung Up on Packers Negotiator

            Originally posted by PackerBlues
            Gee, now your just being silly. I think Wahle is retired.
            Naah, he's in seattle this year trying to shore up their OL. http://sea.scout.com/2/772973.html

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            • #7
              This agents an idiot. He and Bus Cook need to leave the building.
              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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              • #8
                I think im more upset that we give money to Poopingyah than this guy... and we were willing to pay off brett and not give grant money... what the hell are we doing these days

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by packers11
                  guaranteed money is everything...

                  1.75 in 6 years... is a JOKE!!!

                  He's only produced for half a fucking season. He doesn't deserve a whole lot of guaranteed money. The guy isn't LaDanian Tomlinson or Bryan Westbrook or Steven Jackson just yet. He has to show what he can do for a whole season first.

                  Besides, the 1.75 million is just the guaranteed part. With incentives, that deal was probably worth a whole hell of a lot of money. Problem is that kind of a deal is dependent on Grant producing, and his agent wants that money regardless if he produces. Fuck him. Grant doesn't have 1000 yards rushing for his career yet and he wants superstar money?? That's bullshit...
                  Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                  • #10
                    [quote="Gunakor"]
                    Originally posted by packers11
                    guaranteed money is everything...

                    1.75 in 6 years... is a JOKE!!!
                    Samkon Gado......

                    I remember people saying "show him the money" for a half year as well. Damn'it we didn't do it and traded away a hall of fame runn...... Wait, Gado ended up being a nobody, didn't he ?

                    F A N S = Fervently Appreciative Never Sane

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                    • #11
                      Gado didn't perform anywhere near Grant's level last season. Show me all the 50 yard TD runs that Gado racked up.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by packers11
                        guaranteed money is everything...

                        1.75 in 6 years... is a JOKE!!!
                        Do you like anything the packer organization does? Jesus Christ the dude has only performed for half a season.

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                        • #13
                          Whether or not the Packer's offer was insulting or a lowball, it's increasingly clear that Grant's agent is a tool. I look forward to this deal being done so I don't have to hear from him anymore.
                          </delurk>

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lurker64
                            Whether or not the Packer's offer was insulting or a lowball, it's increasingly clear that Grant's agent is a tool. I look forward to this deal being done so I don't have to hear from him anymore.
                            I agree. If Herman had simply considered it a lowball first offer and asked for 3.5 million dollar signing bonus, the packers would probably have accepted it by now.

                            Instead he refuses to communicate and starts making comparisons to Hester's money. The reason grant isn't signed right now is that Herman is trying to play hardball even though they have zero leverage due to Grant's rookie status.

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                            • #15
                              Samkon Gado:

                              2005 Green Bay Packers 8 5 143 582 4.1 64T

                              Ryan Grant:

                              2007 Green Bay Packers 15 7 188 956 5.1 66T

                              yea, he is better, but is he long term, big money, big bonus better? He also had the benefit of many more practices and game preps than gado did before he started.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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