OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[sheepshead]

When you come to a fork in the road-take it!

[packinpatland]

There's no doubt that Favre should retire. But I also think there shouldn't be any doubt that he didn't win OR lose those game alone.

There is, however, little doubt that a better performance by the Jets QB in any of the last few games would have probably put the Jets in the playoffs.

I mean, they lost to Seattle by 13-3 when their QB threw for 187 yards and 2 INTs, and they lost to San Francisco 24-14 when their QB threw for 137 yards and 3 INTs (one TD). Had they won both of those games, they probably would have won the division. One of the things that could have made them win those games was better performance by the QB (whether it was Favre playing better than he did, or somebody else who would have played better.)

OK, OK, OK............I just hate seeing/hearing all this 'piling on'. I'll admit..........I still like the guy.

[GrnBay007]

OK, OK, OK............I just hate seeing/hearing all this 'piling on'. I'll admit..........I still like the guy.

[bobblehead]

Ahhh, no more or less class than is exhibited in this thread regularly by people on BOTH sides of the Favre argument. Shall I name names?

I get a kick out of how people keep trying to define themselves as being "above the fray." GBrulz, you are very much in the fray. Vince, probably you too. Everybody who is reading this is in the fray. Its just a continuing food fight, celebrity gossip.

Ya, it kinda sucks that this assistant coach or trainer or whoever is speaking his mind. But that's what everybody is doing. Taking shots at people they disagree with, directly or slyly, and trying to position themselves as being on the side of truth and decency.

You are absolutely right. I tried early on to stay above the fray because I was a bit torn on BF leaving. I vocally disagreed with those who called TT a snake and all that, but I didn't trash brett in the beginning even though I thought he was totally in the wrong. Everything I said was rational and without emotion.

All that pretty much ended around week 8 or so when it just got sickening that niether side could let it go. At this point all the arguements have been made and its simply down to anyone who comments (myself very much included) is being snide and nasty. I admit a childish delight in seeing jets players saying exactly what I've been saying from the start....do I need to rub it in...No, but damn its fun!! I'm guilty and I'm sorry but I'll probably do it again.

edit: Its a little hypocritical for Mangini to throw it at favre now after naming his fucking newborn after the guy. I mean, talking about trying to shift the blame. Man up like MM did this year, take some responsibility too. You let the guy run wild all season and you loved it when he was playing well, when he stopped, it was too late to close the barn door.

[Pugger]

Brett may retire???

Peter King was on the NBC pregame show last night and he reiterated his belief that Brett is going to retire. I'm not going to hold my breath. Brett has cried wolf too many times. I too will believe it when the season starts and Brett isn't on anyone's roster.

[packinpatland]

"Reported today on NBC Sports that Favre told me he informed Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum that "it may be time to look in a different direction'' at the quarterback position when they spoke Monday. A day earlier, Favre continued his poor play down the stretch -- the Jets finished by losing four of their last five, ruining their 8-3 start that had them in Super Bowl contention -- in a disastrous three-interception loss to the Dolphins. The Jets fired Eric Mangini as coach ... and could have made Favre's decision about whether to return in 2009 a negative..
Favre said that Tannenbaum said to him Monday, "If I ask you about your future now, I know what you'll say. So I'm not going to ask you.'' What Tannenbaum did ask Favre is to give his decision some time, that the Jets definitely wanted him back and he should take all the time he needs to decide.

According to King's report............Favre made it clear ..........start thinking of another QB.......Tannenbaum, instead of saying 'OK Brett we'll do that'..........he says 'Take your time, we want you back.'

Yet.....Favre comes out the bad guy in this....

[Zool]

All I can say is, thankfully this isnt the Packers. I'll be glad to have a boring offseason.

[packinpatland]

All I can say is, thankfully this isnt the Packers. I'll be glad to have a boring offseason.

A point all can agree on.

[cpk1994]

they were lucky they got him, they filled the seats and sold lots of jerseys...........there's some within the Jet org. that are laughing all the way to the bank.

Hmmm.
They have an outraged fan base, a fired head coach, a loss of team chemistry, a lost MVP-type-season quarterback (who came back to twist the knife right in their own house!), and a lost draft choice.

I;m not sure that's 'laughing' you hear.

Outrage fueled by the media, coach who had alot to prove, and didn't, team chemistry was fine when they were winning..., and about that QB........what was his win-loss last year? The draft pick......you're right.

And where is this QB spending the playoffs becuase of his erratic play? win-loss really means nothing and is a waste if you didn't make the playoffs. So what if they went 9-7. They still ended the season just like the 4-12 season: Watching trhe playoffs at home on TV.

[bobblehead]

"Reported today on NBC Sports that Favre told me he informed Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum that "it may be time to look in a different direction'' at the quarterback position when they spoke Monday. A day earlier, Favre continued his poor play down the stretch -- the Jets finished by losing four of their last five, ruining their 8-3 start that had them in Super Bowl contention -- in a disastrous three-interception loss to the Dolphins. The Jets fired Eric Mangini as coach ... and could have made Favre's decision about whether to return in 2009 a negative..
Favre said that Tannenbaum said to him Monday, "If I ask you about your future now, I know what you'll say. So I'm not going to ask you.'' What Tannenbaum did ask Favre is to give his decision some time, that the Jets definitely wanted him back and he should take all the time he needs to decide.

According to King's report............Favre made it clear ..........start thinking of another QB.......Tannenbaum, instead of saying 'OK Brett we'll do that'..........he says 'Take your time, we want you back.'

Yet.....Favre comes out the bad guy in this....

He isn't the bad guy yet. I'll wait until the Jets draft a QB and then Brett changes his mind before I call him the bad guy in this...Oh yea, and after he skips all the minis and OTAs that his teammates participate in.

[MJZiggy]

It doesn't matter. He's going to retire. And he's not coming back this time and he won't be traded anywhere. Even if he demands to be traded, no one will take him. It's done, it's over.

[Lurker64]

He isn't the bad guy yet. I'll wait until the Jets draft a QB and then Brett changes his mind before I call him the bad guy in this...Oh yea, and after he skips all the minis and OTAs that his teammates participate in.

Have they concluded yet that Kellen Clemens is not the answer? Since they already have a relatively high pick invested in that position, they don't necessarily need to spent another. Sign a journeyman, draft a project QB (Chase Daniel?) in the late rounds, and hope Clemens steps up. That wouldn't hurt the Jets a lot if Favre wants to come back in July.

[The Shadow]

I am just thankful the Drama is far, far away.

[GrnBay007]

With all the obsessing over it, it appears some Packer fans miss the so called "drama".

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Brett may retire???

Peter King was on the NBC pregame show last night and he reiterated his belief that Brett is going to retire. I'm not going to hold my breath. Brett has cried wolf too many times. I too will believe it when the season starts and Brett isn't on anyone's roster.

I want to see Brett follow Mangini to Cleveland and play there. What fun! Its all just entertainment.

Those of you worried about Favre's legacy have nothing to fear, that story has already been written. Maybe some people are feeling ashamed of yourselves for hating-on Thompson last summer, embarrassed that TT has been vindicated. Take one step forward if you fall into this catetgory.

I am most against the sentinment that Favre should have stayed retired. Coming back and accepting a gig with the ne'r-d-well Jets showed the best of Brett Favre - his love of the game of football, willingness to take risks, his boyish good nature. I hope he comes back next year, although I REALLY think he should consider being a backup, the season is too long for a senior citizen.