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For me, it comes down to this:
What I liked most about Favre was his brutal (sometimes too brutal) honesty and how I could believe what he said as not being PR BS. Since that is exactly what he wasn't able to do during this whole thing I am rather pissed off, since what I liked best about him seems to have gone by the wayside. Too many conflicting statements and actions to count, including flat out lying about not wanting to unretire, making up stories about being tricked into playing and throwing his "friend" Campen under the bus for no good reason other than to make himself look good, asking for a flat out release when he was under contract (honor your contract J. Walker...), constant contact with the Vikings, going out of his way to call the Packer's opponent allegedly discussing the Packer's tendencies....ect...
One or two things I can handle, but this is just a clear trend that I could see even if I had severe cataracts in both eyes.
Just my opinion.
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The whole Metrodome cheered in 2007 because it was mostly Packers fans that day, not polite Vikings fans.Originally posted by PartialHow are they not similar situations?Originally posted by Bossman641Are you really comparing these 2 situations? Recognition for a long-standing record being broken vs. expecting fans to cheer someone who went to the enemy. And that's without even attempting to get into what Favre meant to Packer fans or the shady way in which he made his way to Minnesota.Originally posted by GrnBay007Yep, I was rooting for Brett on Sunday. And I was disappointed Packer fans boo'd him. I knew there would be some when he came out on the field, but I didn't expect to hear it throughout the whole first quarter. Here's the thing though, it wasn't just that they were boo'ing someone who gave them everything he had for 16 years, it was more so that Packer fans have always taken pride in being the greatest fans...the friendliest fans, etc. and I felt a little embarrassed by all the boo'ing. I personally think boo'ing a player....any player is wrong (unless they do something like Sapp did and hurt another player in the manner in which he did). Just my opinion.
Why feel a little embarrassment? I had forgotten about this until I was watching the game on Sunday, but I remember when Favre broke the TD record vs the Vikings and the whole Metrodome stood and cheered for him. I remember thinking how great it was that football fans could step out of the box and cheer for a QB's great accomplishment regardless of the uniform he was wearing...even if it was a rival team.
To each their own on the whole boo'ing thing...I'm just saying it's not for me. I was happy to see some Packer fans holding up signs in support of Favre on Sunday. Whether you want to believe it or not, there are a lot more Packer fans out there that feel the way I do.
But anyway, pretty excited about those Packer/Bear tickets we got for 12/13. It will be brrrr cold in Chicago but they are good seats and can't wait to go!
Those records were broke at the Vikings expense. They lost games because Brett broke that record. He did it in what, 32 games against them...
Yet, they still cheered him because they respected him.
Brett broke that same record 4 times on Sunday. The same one the Viking's fans cheered him for, despite kicking there tail by playing against them in 30 something games.
The Packer fans, who he played some outrageous number of games for in a row mind you, booed him when he broke that record all four times on Sunday. For shame.
I know you're going to come back and argue "He was beating our team". So what? He was beating the Vikings and they still cheered for him and showed respect. Why? Because they know how it is to not have a star QB. GB is still adjusting to having only a 7 for prom date instead of a 10.
It really is pathetic.
Article: VIKINGS NOTES; Packers fans make Dome home away from home.(SPORTS)
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Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)
Article date:
October 2, 2007
Author:
Zulgad, Judd; Seifert, Kevin CopyrightCOPYRIGHT 2007 Star Tribune Co. This material is published under license from the publisher through the Gale Group, Farmington Hills, Michigan. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Gale Group. (Hide copyright information)
Byline: Judd Zulgad; Kevin Seifert; Staff Writers
The number of Green Bay Packers fans in attendance at the Metrodome on Sunday did not go unnoticed on the Vikings sideline.
"It seemed like we were playing at Lambeau Field," cornerback Antoine Winfield said Monday. "It was unreal. When our offense was on the field, it was loud in there. I've never been a part of a team having two home fields before."
The Packers always attract a large following when they play in Minnesota, but Sunday's announced attendance of 63,779 seemed to include more Green Bay fans than usual. This was largely because quarterback Brett Favre entered the game needing only one touchdown pass to ...
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee
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If you want to buy single game tickets for the Vikings/Packers, MINN makes you purchase a preseason game also because so many Packer fans come.Originally posted by green_bowl_packerThe whole Metrodome cheered in 2007 because it was mostly Packers fans that day, not polite Vikings fans.Originally posted by PartialHow are they not similar situations?Originally posted by Bossman641Are you really comparing these 2 situations? Recognition for a long-standing record being broken vs. expecting fans to cheer someone who went to the enemy. And that's without even attempting to get into what Favre meant to Packer fans or the shady way in which he made his way to Minnesota.Originally posted by GrnBay007Yep, I was rooting for Brett on Sunday. And I was disappointed Packer fans boo'd him. I knew there would be some when he came out on the field, but I didn't expect to hear it throughout the whole first quarter. Here's the thing though, it wasn't just that they were boo'ing someone who gave them everything he had for 16 years, it was more so that Packer fans have always taken pride in being the greatest fans...the friendliest fans, etc. and I felt a little embarrassed by all the boo'ing. I personally think boo'ing a player....any player is wrong (unless they do something like Sapp did and hurt another player in the manner in which he did). Just my opinion.
Why feel a little embarrassment? I had forgotten about this until I was watching the game on Sunday, but I remember when Favre broke the TD record vs the Vikings and the whole Metrodome stood and cheered for him. I remember thinking how great it was that football fans could step out of the box and cheer for a QB's great accomplishment regardless of the uniform he was wearing...even if it was a rival team.
To each their own on the whole boo'ing thing...I'm just saying it's not for me. I was happy to see some Packer fans holding up signs in support of Favre on Sunday. Whether you want to believe it or not, there are a lot more Packer fans out there that feel the way I do.
But anyway, pretty excited about those Packer/Bear tickets we got for 12/13. It will be brrrr cold in Chicago but they are good seats and can't wait to go!
Those records were broke at the Vikings expense. They lost games because Brett broke that record. He did it in what, 32 games against them...
Yet, they still cheered him because they respected him.
Brett broke that same record 4 times on Sunday. The same one the Viking's fans cheered him for, despite kicking there tail by playing against them in 30 something games.
The Packer fans, who he played some outrageous number of games for in a row mind you, booed him when he broke that record all four times on Sunday. For shame.
I know you're going to come back and argue "He was beating our team". So what? He was beating the Vikings and they still cheered for him and showed respect. Why? Because they know how it is to not have a star QB. GB is still adjusting to having only a 7 for prom date instead of a 10.
It really is pathetic.
Article: VIKINGS NOTES; Packers fans make Dome home away from home.(SPORTS)
Article from:
Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)
Article date:
October 2, 2007
Author:
Zulgad, Judd; Seifert, Kevin CopyrightCOPYRIGHT 2007 Star Tribune Co. This material is published under license from the publisher through the Gale Group, Farmington Hills, Michigan. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Gale Group. (Hide copyright information)
Byline: Judd Zulgad; Kevin Seifert; Staff Writers
The number of Green Bay Packers fans in attendance at the Metrodome on Sunday did not go unnoticed on the Vikings sideline.
"It seemed like we were playing at Lambeau Field," cornerback Antoine Winfield said Monday. "It was unreal. When our offense was on the field, it was loud in there. I've never been a part of a team having two home fields before."
The Packers always attract a large following when they play in Minnesota, but Sunday's announced attendance of 63,779 seemed to include more Green Bay fans than usual. This was largely because quarterback Brett Favre entered the game needing only one touchdown pass to ...
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-169477098.htmlBut Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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+100000000000Originally posted by Bossman641IMO Favre had every intention of playing for the Vikings from the end of the Jets season on. Why else would he have booked a block of hotel rooms for the weekend of the Packer-Viking game while STILL ON THE JETS TEAM?
With Favre and his bunch you have to watch what they DO and not what they say.
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I bet he's devastated too SCOriginally posted by Scott CampbellThe final verdict is in. After 15 months of heated deliberation, a Lambeau stadium crowd of 70,000 mostly loyal Packer fans have found Brett Favre guilty of high treason. He has forever been branded a traitor.
They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!
Brew Crew in 2011!!!
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BS....when it's all said and done he'll be welcomed home with open arms.Originally posted by MOBB DEEPI bet he's devastated too SCOriginally posted by Scott CampbellThe final verdict is in. After 15 months of heated deliberation, a Lambeau stadium crowd of 70,000 mostly loyal Packer fans have found Brett Favre guilty of high treason. He has forever been branded a traitor.
C.H.U.D.
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Antonio Freeman worked with Percy Harvin (flat out STUD!) this summer on route running, etc
Coming out of Florida that was the concern of SOME teams
Gota eat crow now: ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. Thanks to Free and MAYBE Bert....
They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!
Brew Crew in 2011!!!
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You are thinking even smaller than i hoped. Legendary players who only play for one team are beloved nationwide. In this day an age so rare. He had a chance to be in a pantheon that is really, really small.Originally posted by th87Right on. He could've been beloved forever in Wisconsin. Wisconsin's pride. Statues, legends. People centuries from now would be taking about him like they talk about Abraham Lincoln or somebody.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsQFT.Originally posted by th87I was always a Favre supporter. When he flipped out about Moss, I could see where he was coming from, for example. When he went on Greta, I was pretty shocked and disappointed, but I still thought there was some way out of this.
However, AS SOON AS I found that Favre was interested in the Vikings, all that good will went straight out the window.
Why? Because I thought Favre was different. I thought Packers football was different. I thought Favre was loyal to us Packer fans until the end of time. I considered Packer nation to be as close to a real nation as you can get. HOW COULD HE sign with our number 1 rival?? That's as close to real treason as you can get!
This is not just entertainment! This is GREEN BAY PACKER FOOTBALL. It's a part of my life and always will be.
And so the reason I want Favre to fail is precisely because I supported him so fervently all these years. He made me believe he was different - that Packer fans never had to worry about THE BRETT FAVRE to switch allegiances. Because he's better than that, and we're better than that.
But he showed me that none of that matters. He stabbed ME in the back. I took it VERY personally.
And so did everybody who booed.
Bert had a chance to be in a very small pantheon of heroes. He blew it.
Butler and Hendu are Packer People. Bert is not.
I can't believe anybody could be that dumb.
He will be a HOF. But, there will always be an mental asterisk when his name comes up.
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Let's review. You were surprised at the booing. Why? Because you live in a world concocted to support your view of Bert. Only somebody deluded or living in a fantasy world would have been surprised that packer fans booed h imOriginally posted by GrnBay007I don't buy in to your BS in looking for an argument...not worth my time.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsNice of you to admit that you rooted for Favre over the packers. Now you can finally move to becoming a vikes fan.
Wow. All that booing sounds traumatic for you. Must have been quite a shocker to come face to face with reality.
Well, ty thought the stories you made up regarding Favre....well showed signs of delusion, but now this....can even being to figure out the massive rationalizations in your head.
Have you always had the ability to discern the thoughts and emotions behind fan's boos?
I'm sure the Bear's game will be fun for you. Have you decided who you will be rooting for? The pack is the team in the green and gold.
I do want to add though, a while back there was a thread titled, WTF is going on here....or something to that effect. Your post is a perfect example of WTF is going on. I made sure to point out my post was my opinion....and added, to each their own. You respond with belittling comments meant for nothing more than to offend and berate. Sad little world you live in, but you have a good day Ty.
2nd, you attempt to justify the booing so as to fit into your worldview. No, it couldn't be that they don't like him, it has to be something else. Something that will allow you to feel good about your position.
Lastly, i would rather live in my sad, but cognizant of the real world, world than live in your fantasy.
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Originally posted by MadtownPackerI wonder if history will be kind enough to forget TT and M3's part in all this mess. Or do they get mental asterisks too?
They wont be around long enough, just a little smudge on the history of the Green Bay Packers.
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