OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Patler]

1. It was pretty apparent for at least 3 seasons TT did not want favre as a packer anymore. So he may have missed the bus: But your not undoing anything. It's the same offense with the same players, Favre didn't miss a thing that season. The packers merely said it;s AR time and they wanted to move on. I don't recall trade demands, especially to the vikings, until the "buyout" offer was made. Get payed a lot of money by GB to do whatever, but in return stay retired. That was a bigger slap in the face then a retired player deciding he made a mistake.

Apparent for three seasons that TT didn't want Favre? Based on what, exactly?
They were ready to welcome him back as the starter when he first wanted to unretire.
They were ready to bring him back in August, but in a competitive situation.
He didn't demand a trade when he first talked about returning, he demanded an outright release.

It is hard to call it quits, and Favre felt he made a mistake retiring. In this sport, that happens, and can be undone. The packers just did not want any of it.

A month after retiring, the Packers were ready to bring him back as the starter; but he changed his mind yet again. They were willing to bring him back in August, to compete with Rodgers. This is sports. Competing for a position is what it is all about.. Favre is the one who would have nothing of it.

Lied. Lied about what? When he first retired, I am sure he meant it at the time. He was coming off a playoff pick that ended a fabulous season and a possible SB, and the packers wanted to know pre draft. So, pre draft, he was so emotionally drained from that loss what else could he be thinking? He even admitted he could play, but mentally he just wasn't there. Well, I don't blame him, and I doubt he lied at that time.

He simply changed his mind. A lot of former NFL players warned of it before it happened, because he is not the only one to do this.

He simply changed his mind. A lot of former NFL players warned of it before it happened, because he is not the only one to do this.

No the Packers did not want to know predraft. Favre admitted that when he told them he wanted to retire they asked if he was sure, and told him he could take as much time as he wanted.

I am of the opinion that from his first announcement with the Packers, his entire goal was to get out of Green Bay. I am of the opinion that it was his goal to get out of Green Bay for several years. It is my opinion that he tried to do with GB exactly what he did with the Jets, put them in a position in which they would have to release him so he could go wherever he wanted to. But that is a another topic, and I won't go into the details here.

What he did last year to get out of the jets... sure it was sort of a cop out, but the jets are the ones that just "let him go". That is their fault, and their loss, not Favre's. Favre fits with the vikings for many reasons, the most important one doesn't even pertain to playing against packers: The playbook. He even said it himself, first practice he was out with the first team calling plays and had no issues there.

Minnesota's playbook is very similar to what Brett knows. Minnesota has a probowl running back, a decent OL, average WR's, and a decent defense with a team that has the same playbook he got use to for 16 seasons. If he was going to play, Minnesota really was the best fit for him

No, the Jets didn't just "let him go". They relied on what he told them, made plans to go on without him, and unlike the Packers the year before the Jets didn't have the cap space if he wanted to come back. They knew what was up when he asked for his release instead of being content on the retired list, and rather than get involved in the Favre off season circus they released him early when he asked for it.

Favre shafted the Jets big time, in my opinion.

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all the vikings offensive players interviewed said favre was sharp today and that he provides a quiet confidence for the team in general

jared allen is straight slurpn him

More than you?

he he...i lobbed that 1 to u huh?

LMAO at tarkenton's angst and rants

can we say bitter....

[KYPack]

No, the Jets didn't just "let him go". They relied on what he told them, made plans to go on without him, and unlike the Packers the year before the Jets didn't have the cap space if he wanted to come back. They knew what was up when he asked for his release instead of being content on the retired list, and rather than get involved in the Favre off season circus they released him early when he asked for it.

Favre shafted the Jets big time, in my opinion.

I'm down with 90% of your post. I do think that when Brett retired (1st one, now) he truly was scewed up in the head and didn't know what he was really doing. I felt his strategy (if you can call it that) was to get out of OTA's, post season training, and camp. Then he wanted to blow into GB and start playing.

When it didn't work, he made it all up as it came along.

The part I quoted is a big one. No one has got on Brett's ass about :

1. Playing last season when he should have shut it down and given the Jets a shot at making the play-offs.
2. Ruining the end of the Jets season and getting the coach canned.

To me it's one of the sorriest episodes in year. Basically the Jets are such a sorry organization, they are used to having a quick fix fail and blow up in their faces. They just move on to a new coach and new QB and don't really give a shit

[Fritz]

You know, KY, that's a good point. If he really was as hurt and damaged as he claimed later, was he really their best option to win? Did he hide the extent of the hurt from the coaching and medical staff?

It'd be interesting to know more.

[woodbuck27]

Favre didn't even look excited to be there in the press conference.

He feels underpaid. Disrespected.

$25 Million DOLLero's. Way to go Bus Cook. Not bad for a washed up QB.

[denverYooper]

Favre didn't even look excited to be there in the press conference.

He feels underpaid. Disrespected.

$25 Million DOLLero's. Way to go Bus Cook. Not bad for a washed up QB.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wednesday-whys-Its-all-about-Brett-3611.html

When I negotiated Brett’s 10-year, $100-million contract with his agent, Bus Cook, for the Packers in 2001, Bus and I felt that we would be lucky to get three years out of that contract. It actually lasted until a couple of months ago when the Jets terminated the contract in order to allow Brett, for the first time in his career, to exercise his rights as a free agent.

The amounts for years eight and nine of that contract, which would have been 2008 and 2009, were $12M and $13M, respectively. Brett will make those exact amounts in a two-year, $25-million contract he signed with the Vikings.

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they're saying favre may play 2 series, 1 unless its too short

personally, i think he should play about 20 snaps with about 8 pass plays being called

for the 3rd pre-season game he should play a half

i cant remember exactly but i dont think he played an entire half in any of the jets pre-season games last year and the chemistry was adequate, leading to an 8-3 start

all in all, im expecting the vikes staff and favre to learn alot from the way things fell apart in n.y. (number of passing plays called, favre bonding with teammates, etc)

btw, dustin keller said its "absolutely false" that brett was standoff-ish last season. he stated that an individual made a negative remark about brett and the media took it and ran; as they do most things

is this game v chiefs gonna be televised? SO surreal....

[GoPackGo]

Brett Favre is a tool and Packer fans have a right to be outraged.
The Packers should never retire #4.

[MJZiggy]

Give it to a rookie punter.

[Fritz]

I'm all for bringing in another punter, if one can be found!

Our punters seem to be of the British variety!

[denverYooper]

I'm all for bringing in another punter, if one can be found!

Our punters seem to be of the British variety!

ay-oh!

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not a bad debut at all considering he signed 3 days ago....

harvin will be the good devin hester

[Scott Campbell]

not a bad debut at all considering he signed 3 days ago....

harvin will be the good devin hester

Kevin Siefert from ESPN writes:

"Unfortunately for the Vikings, that's about where the fun ended. Once the pomp and circumstance was over, Favre looked very much like a 39-year-old quarterback who just finished his first week of practice in almost nine months. He misfired on three of his four passes, his only completion a diving 4-yard catch by receiver Percy Harvin, and absorbed two heavy hits from an active Kansas City defense. The Vikings managed 9 yards over five plays in two series before Tarvaris Jackson replaced him.

(Those same fans booed Jackson as he jogged on the field. Classy.)"

[Bossman641]

1/4 for 4 yards? I didn't see it, but

1. That seems too small to gauge anything
2. That seems pretty shitty as it is

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some cat who was calln the game on nfl network broke it down nicely; its not about numbers tonite for a 90 year vet...its about developing synergy

vikes will be good and favre will fair well