OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Scott Campbell]

Let's face it Brett has to many untangables that you can't coach/learn.

You may have just unintentionally coined a term for Favre gaffes.

[Scott Campbell]

The old guy really absorbed some vicious shots today.

[MadtownPacker]

All of you are stupid. This was a bad thing for next week. We all know how #4 usually comes back strong after a game like this.

I bet the NFL is pissed they cant flex this game yet.

[pbmax]

Given the level of competition Brett looked about a 100 times better than Rodgers as he has all season. The Vikes loss today was NOT Favres fault,there may be a game this year that is but today wasn't. It's funny that there are a number of you here talking of Favres late season decline. Rodgers will not have a decline because while a decent QB,he isn't a winner. Claim stats all you want,W/L are all that matter.

Actually, I could simplify the question here. All that matters are Wins and Losses, except when discussing a Viking loss with Favre apparently. Today, it wasn't his fault. So today, apparently, it isn't all about Wins and Losses.

Which standard should we apply to Rodgers, just so we are talking about the same thing? Or do only 40 year olds get the benefit of the doubt?

[pbmax]

All of you are stupid. This was a bad thing for next week. We all know how #4 usually comes back strong after a game like this.

I bet the NFL is pissed they cant flex this game yet.

They did flex it once, already. From a 1 PM start to 4 PM. Even moved both New York teams' games to the early slot to do it. And that rarely happens.

[MadtownPacker]

All of you are stupid. This was a bad thing for next week. We all know how #4 usually comes back strong after a game like this.

I bet the NFL is pissed they cant flex this game yet.

They did flex it once, already. From a 1 PM start to 4 PM. Even moved both New York teams' games to the early slot to do it. And that rarely happens.

Im talking about making it the Sunday Night game Casper.

[Partial]

You guys act as if we have any chance to walk into Heinz field and get a win. Safe money is on the black and yella.

[Pugger]

Given the level of competition Brett looked about a 100 times better than Rodgers as he has all season. The Vikes loss today was NOT Favres fault,there may be a game this year that is but today wasn't. It's funny that there are a number of you here talking of Favres late season decline. Rodgers will not have a decline because while a decent QB,he isn't a winner. Claim stats all you want,W/L are all that matter.

If that's your logic, what's your excuse for Favre's 4-12 season? It all comes back to the same stuff. TEAMS win games. If Rodgers isn't, then by your own logic, neither is Favre. I'm sick of hearing that BS.

+1

[Pugger]

Were there years that Favre could have had more weapons? Sure, Ron Wolf said as much and that was his own fault.

And no, Favre didn't single handedly blow the Eagles playoff game or the Giants NFCC game. Coaching gaffes and other players on the defense had a large hand in that.

But let's not kid ourselves, either. Favre's inexplicable hail mary during the Eagles OT playoff loss and the well photographed INT vs. the Giants in the NFCC game weren't anyone else's fault but his own.

Favre made his rep on spectacular play, playing when hurt and rifling a ball in an area that no other QB could hit (e.g., the game at Lambeau vs. the Bengals in '96). Plus some of the plays he made in the 2007 reg. season.

What ran Favre out of here was his incessant Divaness and waffling about retirement. The Packers didn't want to lose Rodgers to FA so they needed an answer. The Packers didn't dump Favre in the offseason, he retired.

AR has shown poise the past 2 seasons. He probably won't be a HOF QB, but VERY few are. But he can be an elite QB that can lead a team to a title.

+1

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Superb post DD.

[Bossman641]

Let's face it Brett has to many untangables that you can't coach/learn.

You may have just unintentionally coined a term for Favre gaffes.

I see an instructional video in the future - including everything from playing fundamentals to media relations.

[Fritz]

If that's your logic, what's your excuse for Favre's 4-12 season? It all comes back to the same stuff. TEAMS win games. If Rodgers isn't, then by your own logic, neither is Favre. I'm sick of hearing that BS.

Thank you,you have helped prove a point that I have said here forever. Many here LOVE to blame Favre for some big losses in GB when in fact it was a TEAM effort. Just as a win is,but people are very quick to point fingers and especially at Brett now that he is a Vike. By the way I like Rodgers and think he will be a very good QB. He will NEVER be a Favre,but that's apples to oranges.[/quote]

Okay, this is the kind of BS that drives me berserk. You tell MJ she helped you prove your point regarding Favre by saying that people love to blame losses on Favre when in fact it's a team effort. That's the bolded line you wrote above. But here's what you wrote just a few posts earlier about Rodgers:

"Rodgers will not have a decline because while a decent QB,he isn't a winner."

Okay, so it's a team sport and wins and losses can't be pinned on individuals, but Rodgers isn't a winner? So he's somehow responsible for wins and losses?

Do you just post something and then forget you posted it?

[MOBB DEEP]

Ras,

Whats up with Winfield? One report says he's out 4-6 weeks?! Dayum; say it aint so...It was SO clkear that he was missed yesterday. Pitt continually ran and threw to his side. Who's that bama that was there in his place? He had ONE good play, breakn up a game-clinching pass. Ben tested him then for a reason...

Berrian? How bad is Hamstring?

Rice = stud? or another case where Lord makes a WR better? What college? 2nd rounder? GREAT mathup will be Woodson'nem vs Favre/Minny WRs

Do you think Chilly went away from the run too much? He put it all on Lord and he came through but AD was fresh in the 4th so I thought he could've done some sweeps AND quick hitters

Thanks

Injuries, as usual, will be key for Sunday's game

[Bretsky]

Losing Winfield really hurts the Vikes; I think that might be what pushes Sunday's game in Green Bay's favor.

Rice....year 3...he's developing into a stud. Glad I picked him up in the New York League

[MOBB DEEP]

Losing Winfield really hurts the Vikes; I think that might be what pushes Sunday's game in Green Bay's favor.

Totally agree! thought the same thing when I saw the report last night B