OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Scott Campbell]

Gee Scott, you seem to have a lot of insight into this thing. You didn't go and add another bride to the stable without telling us did you?

Hey, it wasn't me. I suppose that narrows it down a bit.

[Fritz]

She seems so young to be getting pregnant. Wouldn't you expect her to do the usual college thing first? Get a degree and all that crap?

[Scott Campbell]

She seems so young to be getting pregnant. Wouldn't you expect her to do the usual college thing first? Get a degree and all that crap?

You and I would.

[Harlan Huckleby]

She seems so young to be getting pregnant. Wouldn't you expect her to do the usual college thing first? Get a degree and all that crap?

old enough to ....

[Gunakor]

I'd bet Favre's agent initiated some of the stuff...such as the Greta interview.

Jim Miller on NFL Network noted yesterday how the Eagles were appreciative and cosiderate of putting McNabb where he wanted to go. He went a step further and noted that was the exact opposite of how Green Bay dealt with Favre. Of course it got a few fans outraged; but it was interesting to know that somebody else was pondering this besides me.

Who the hell is Jim Miller? Is he that mediocre QB for the Bears that spent his entire career wishing he was Brett Favre, playing for the team he could never ever beat? There's plenty of reasons to rip on the Packers, I guess that would count as one of them.

Seeing as how he never played on a championship caliber team, I'm not surprised he doesn't know how one is built. Trading a talented football player to a division rival doesn't strike me as a sound championsip caliber football team building strategy. I would not have traded McNabb to a division rival simply because that's what McNabb wanted, unless I were pretty damn sure that move wouldn't hurt my own team's chances at a division title and a home playoff game.

To be honest, this almost strikes me as a sign of disrespect from the Iggles twoards McNabb. It's almost like telling him that they felt so little of him that they'd trade him to a team they play twice each season and not think twice about it. That they feel he's washed up, and would have little to offer the Skins in terms of title contention.

In contrast, trading Favre out of the division, out of the CONFERENCE as it were, could be perceived as a sign of respect for Favre's ability. In that particular case, I was pretty damn sure that trading him to the Vikings would have hurt the Packers chances at a division title and home playoff game. And I was right, as evidenced by last season. That doesn't mean I wouldn't have traded Favre anyway, seeing as how my QB of the future was 100% ready to play. I just wouldn't have traded Favre to a division rival, out of respect for his ability to play quarterback at an elite level.

I wonder if that makes any sense to Jim Miller...

[RashanGary]

bretsky, no matter what Favre does, you give him the benefit of the doubt. No matter what the Packers did in the Favre situation, you assume the worst.


When everything looks one way, you say, "well, we odn't know all of the facts, Favre probably didn't do this or that". or, "well, we don't know all the facts, for all we know Ted could be lying about this or that".


Let's just take this thing at face value. When Favre says or does something incredibly selfish and hurtfull, let's just call it what it is. When Ted does nothing wrong, let's not assume evil intentions just because. I love the way we worship these guys. Tiger, Favre. Neither is better than the other. Neither deserves more respect. Neither is better or worse than any of us. All just human.

[Fritz]

After seeing the news about Favre's daughter having a baby now, if I were Favre's teammate I'd buy a corn cob pipe and put it in his locker.

[Patler]

I'd bet Favre's agent initiated some of the stuff...such as the Greta interview.

Jim Miller on NFL Network noted yesterday how the Eagles were appreciative and cosiderate of putting McNabb where he wanted to go. He went a step further and noted that was the exact opposite of how Green Bay dealt with Favre. Of course it got a few fans outraged; but it was interesting to know that somebody else was pondering this besides me.

One could also compare the difference in approaches taken by the players and their agents in dealing with the situations, and how that may have influenced the final result.

Funny thing in business, when both parties approach a situation respectful of the impact their actions have on the other party, it is usually easy to accommodate the needs and desires of both. When one party initially ignores the impact of their actions on the other, the other tends to dig in its heals and stubbornness escalates until neither comes away satisfied with the result.

For years, Favre's indecisiveness made it difficult for the Packers to plan their future. His out and out challenges to the front office staff and his questioning of their motives won no friends among the staff. Favre planted the seeds for a bad breakup years earlier, then fertilized, watered and applied growing lamps when he retired, unretired sort of a month later only to reaffirm his retirement followed by a prolonged period of vacillation during which he demanded to be simply released to go wherever he wanted to go with no compensation to the Packers.

When a guy becomes a thorn in your side, how likely are you to want to please him?

[Scott Campbell]

Bus Cook has a storied history in the scorched earth dirty tricks approach to negotiations.

[pbmax]

I think Chris Jacke must be involved somehow.

[Scott Campbell]

Pretend you're Brad Childress, and Bert has given you his solemn word that he's coming back to play for you this year. What's that worth?

[Gunakor]

Pretend you're Brad Childress, and Bert has given you his solemn word that he's coming back to play for you this year. What's that worth?

Is it April or August?

[Scott Campbell]

Pretend you're Brad Childress, and Bert has given you his solemn word that he's coming back to play for you this year. What's that worth?

Is it April or August?

Your choice Gun.

[Gunakor]

In April I'm turning a deaf ear to anything he has to say anyway. For me to hear it, the news would have to be channeled through his family, then his agent, then my front office, then my best friend, and then possibly my own mother for me to believe it - and by then it'll be damn near August anyway.

If it's the second week of August and he says he's ready for another go at it, he's being 100% completely honest about it. Remember, he's been throwing footballs to high school kids in lieu of training camp, so he's good until December. You can trust him.

[Scott Campbell]

In April I'm turning a deaf ear to anything he has to say anyway. For me to hear it, the news would have to be channeled through his family, then his agent, then my front office, then my best friend, and then possibly my own mother for me to believe it - and by then it'll be damn near August anyway.

If it's the second week of August and he says he's ready for another go at it, he's being 100% completely honest about it. Remember, he's been throwing footballs to high school kids in lieu of training camp, so he's good until December. You can trust him.

Yeah, the summer heat seems to sweat the lying right out of him.

So it's April - do you draft or trade for another QB? Or roll the dice with their other 2 stiffs?