OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Scott Campbell]

Imagine the Red Sea parting and Charlton Heston inexplicably throwing the ball Yul Brynner. And then Edward G. Robinson yelling - This is not Detroit, man, this is the Promised Land!




Bottom line - Moses is not a choker.

[channtheman]

If Rodgers doesn't fumble, it's 4th down and we punt. We don't stop them like we literally haven't all game and they still win.

[Zool]

If Rodgers doesn't fumble, it's 4th down and we punt. We don't stop them like we literally haven't all game and they still win.

Punting from about the 1 no less. With the less than stellar coverage unit and the day Warner was having, they would need ~25 yards for a FG attempt.

[PlantPage55]

If Rodgers doesn't fumble, it's 4th down and we punt. We don't stop them like we literally haven't all game and they still win.

Not to mention that one of the biggest issues that continues to go unmentioned is that Brett Favre is known as a "legend" - he has been around this league far too long to continue to make the same game-killing mistakes that we see from him annually.

Rodgers was a little off-the-mark in his first playoff game. I expect him to grow and learn from it. Brett has clearly not learned from anything, or at least has forgotten a lot of it.

How can he continue to be known as the "legend" that "puts the team on his back", when he continues to toss them off his back right before the journey is over?

[RashanGary]

I'm a little hard on Rodgers for that play. Earlier in the game, they called the same blitz from the other side. Rodgers didn't see it coming until the last spit second and somehow didn't get killed.

Then, later in the game, it happens again from the other side. Jennings even saw it coming and gave a little chip and Rodgers till held the ball.


Favre Favre'd that game away, but Rodgers Rodgers'd ours away too.


In Rodgers defense, he's a fairly young guy. He had a great year of learning last year. I think this year, when Rodgers goes to the line, you're going to see a little more savvy. He's going to have hard counts that get the opposition to show coverages. He's going to take that step forward from a young QB to a savvy vet. I think Rodgers is smart enough and a quick enough learner that he can be that guy earlier than most.


Last year though, I don't think he was any better than Brett, in the playoffs or otherwise. The Saints had a plan to destroy Favre. Arizona tried to get Aaron, but the Saints were clearly the scarier team. So while Brett looked worse, I don't think Aaron would have faired much better in that situation.

Going forward, I know this is a big statement, but I think the guy we have now can be a bigger winner than the guy we had before. He has to take a couple steps forward, but he's shown me that he can be the steady type of QB that wins championships as opposed to the erratic, most of the time loser we had before.

[Pugger]

I mean, whats the choke? His clock was ticking, and he saw a WR and let it fly...

Looks like you answered your own question.

Like I said, it was a bad decision, but take the throw back and the end result is most likely the same.

Take AR's fumble back adn the result could be completely different. Take Favres 2007 int back and the result most likely is completely different. Take his int back in that game and the end result is still the most likely result.

I guess, I am not saying it's not a choke, it just doesn't bother me as much as where if it "didn't" happen things would of been different.

Chances are after that penalty on the vikes... unless favre made something happen for a 5 yard pass or so, that it was going to OT anyways.


You know what keeps making me sick? Watching that overthrow AR did in OT. I... can barely watch. Oh well, he's young... first time in the playoffs. He will hit that throw next season.

Right. Fans will forgive AR because it was his first playoff game. If he still has problems in big games in the future then we have a problem. But that conference championship game wasn't Favre's first nor was it the first time he's thrown stupid passes in the playoffs. He's had a history of imploding in big games more often than not since 1997.

[Brandon494]

Jerry Glanville: I Traded Favre to Help Sober Him Up

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/a3kXT

"I had to get him out of Atlanta. . . . I could not sober him up," Glanville said. "I sent him to a city where at 9:00 at night the only thing that's open is Chili Joes. You can get it two ways, with or without onions. And that's what made Brett Favre make a comeback was going to a town that closed down. If I would have traded him to New York, nobody to this day would have known who Brett Favre ever was."

Strong words

[TennesseePackerBacker]

So when do we finally get to bury this thread?


edit: To elaborate. Brett Favre has about as much to do with the Packers as Darren Sharper or Ryan Longwell these days.

[The Shadow]

So when do we finally get to bury this thread?


edit: To elaborate. Brett Favre has about as much to do with the Packers as Darren Sharper or Ryan Longwell these days.

Amen.
But I don't believe the Favre jockomomo's will ever let it die. Matter of pride, I suppose..

[Joemailman]

It's not like we're real strict about what gets discussed here. We currently have threads about Rex Grossman and Ladainian Tomlinson on the first page. The fact that the Favre thread has lasted this long is evidence there is interest in him, pro or con. No need to bury it. Just ignore it if you're not interested.

[MJZiggy]

Jerry Glanville: I Traded Favre to Help Sober Him Up

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/a3kXT

"I had to get him out of Atlanta. . . . I could not sober him up," Glanville said. "I sent him to a city where at 9:00 at night the only thing that's open is Chili Joes. You can get it two ways, with or without onions. And that's what made Brett Favre make a comeback was going to a town that closed down. If I would have traded him to New York, nobody to this day would have known who Brett Favre ever was."

Strong words

Not sure I buy it. I think he was more willing to trade because Wolf came calling and he could get a first for a player he'd buried on his depth chart. Atlanta knew Wolf wanted Favre bad and I'm sure they thought he'd bust. Hell when he first got to GB, Holmgren probably thought the same thing from what I've read.

[Joemailman]

Glanville sent him to Green Bay to sober him up? Because no one drinks in Wisconsin? If I ever develop a gambling addiction, will someone please be caring enough to send me to Vegas?

[Scott Campbell]

So when do we finally get to bury this thread?

Not until I'm finished paying homage to his awesomeness.

[pbmax]

Glanville has been telling this tale forever and it keeps getting embellished. And its clearly false on it face, as even after being in Green Bay and going to bed at 10:00 PM for a few years, Brett had to beat a Vicodin addiction and give up alcohol. Glanville should not be invited to anyone's intervention if this is his idea of helping.

He is trying to cover his behind. Herock wanted to keep him, Glanville wanted him gone. He might have wanted him gone because he would not shape up, but he was not traded to save the player. He was traded because the coach didn't want to put up with him and Wolf offered too much for Herock to turn down.

[packerbacker1234]

Glanville has been telling this tale forever and it keeps getting embellished. And its clearly false on it face, as even after being in Green Bay and going to bed at 10:00 PM for a few years, Brett had to beat a Vicodin addiction and give up alcohol. Glanville should not be invited to anyone's intervention if this is his idea of helping.

He is trying to cover his behind. Herock wanted to keep him, Glanville wanted him gone. He might have wanted him gone because he would not shape up, but he was not traded to save the player. He was traded because the coach didn't want to put up with him and Wolf offered too much for Herock to turn down.

Exactly, he is just trying to look like the good guy. He has been saying this now for like 15 years or something and it seems to come back up every 4 years or so. Saying he traded #4 for the benefit of the player is such a falicy. We get it, you didn't like his partying ways and had to dump him, but you didn't CHOOSE GB. GB offered you a first rounder and you couldn't refuse... most don't even blame you for taking it. In GB fans were not happy with the trade of a 1st rounder for a partying back up QB... it ended up being a brilliant move, but at the time no one liked it.

Besides, what is this that Wisconsin bars shut down at 10:00pm? "if I sent him to new york..." - he was sent to the state with the highest amount of bars per person. Bars are open in wisconsin until 2:30am. Sure it's not like New York or places like Vegas that have 24 hour spots, but 10pm is a big exageration. Also as people know, just because you can't buy alcohol from a store after 10 has no bearing on anything. You prebuy all you need, go to a bar and get hammered, then have an afterbar. It's a popular thing done by a lot of college students.

Thing is, he doesn't even need to make himself look like #4's savior. No one blames atlanta for trading favre at the time.