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Ask Harlan - if he's still respondig to you.Originally posted by swedeWhere is it in the rules that a 14 year old can't join this forum and pretend to be fifty-year old conservative Scandinavian?Originally posted by mraynrandSwede, you are like a kid in here!Originally posted by swedeMaybe Sage Rosenfels was watching the 6th round of the draft mumbling "Not Joe Webb...not Joe Webb... please not Joe Webb...DAMMIT!"Originally posted by FritzA sixth rounder drafted as a receiver unseated Rosenfels as QB?"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I think it's possible he'll retire. It's also possible I'll decide to never eat pizza again. It's possible Bretsky will lose his interest in girl on girl action...well okay, that's not possible.Originally posted by FritzIs there anyone out there who actually thinks Favre is even contemplating retirement?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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My remarks were regarding the 'he wanted to go to MN all along' part.Originally posted by bobbleheadYour timeline is a bit off there chief. Pretty sure BF was slated to be the opening day starter in 2008 when he retired. If you have something to contradict that please speak up and show me I'm wrong.Originally posted by wootahOnce he discovered there was no longer a place for him on the team and ARod became the guy, yes.Originally posted by PuggerI don't think he ever actually contemplated retirement - he only used the retirement card to get out of Green Bay and NY so he could get to where he wanted to go all along = MN.
Before that, no.
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Childress not happy with Peterson's absence from Vikings minicamp
Associated Press
EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Adrian Peterson Day took priority over Minnesota Vikings minicamp.
Peterson was absent from Friday's mandatory practice because of an event in his honor in his hometown, and coach Brad Childress is unhappy about it.
Minnesota minicamp update
NFL.com senior columnist Vic Carucci visted Minnesota's minicamp on Friday and writes that the Vikings are still feeling the sting from the bitter NFC Championship loss last season. More ...
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"I just know that there's a bunch of guys here," Childress said. "This has the term mandatory for a reason. The work's here."
The fourth annual Adrian Peterson Day is scheduled for Saturday in Palestine, Tex., where the All-Pro running back was raised. There will be a parade and a meet-and-greet session for the locals with Peterson, who has been mostly working out on his own in Houston this offseason.
Childress said he "had an inkling" about the conflict but that Peterson didn't tell him until an appearance at the team's facility this week.
"I don't know if it's going to be like every year they're going to have that," Childress said, "but we're going to have this too."
Asked whether he would consider this absence excused, Childress demurred.
"That's something that we'll talk about upstairs," he said.
Peterson, like several Vikings veterans, has chosen not to attend the voluntary practices and workouts in Minnesota this spring. The organized team activities (OTAs), as they're called by the NFL, are important to the coaches and have become a part of the offseason routine around the league even if they're not contractually required for the players.
Wide receivers Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice and cornerback Antoine Winfield have all been working out on their own in warmer places, and Brett Favre is still in Mississippi without a confirmation if he's coming back for a 20th NFL season.
Asked whether he's worried that Favre's refusal to commit can give other players an excuse to skip town until training camp, Childress called the 40-year-old quarterback's situation a "special circumstance."
"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."
Favre's decision to have ankle surgery and a court ruling that kept a hold on pending four-game suspensions for defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams set the Vikings up to return their entire starting lineup from last season's NFC runner-up team. That's assuming linebacker E.J. Henderson and cornerback Cedric Griffin are able to eventually recover from their injuries, which might not happen in time for the season opener.
For this weekend at least, this model of stability was missing a few important pieces -- though these are non-contact workouts for a team that has had the same offensive and defensive systems in place for four years.
Childress said his understanding was that Peterson would miss the entire weekend minicamp, which includes two practices on Saturday and one more on Sunday.
Favre and defensive end Ray Edwards were missing too, but Childress didn't express concern about Edwards, who has yet to sign his contract tender and is expected to do so by Tuesday's deadline.
"I think he'd probably want to do that, wouldn't you?" Childress said.
Edwards was upset that because of the upcoming expiration of the collective bargaining agreement he was ineligible for unrestricted free agency. He had restricted status and signed a one-year tender.
"I know he understands that this is business," Childress said. "We've communicated back and forth, because nobody likes to practice more and play more than Ray Edwards."
The Vikings have been working on Peterson's fumbling problem, and on the field earlier this week Peterson and the other running backs carried a 14-pound, sand-filled ball that is supposed to help players develop a stronger feel for the ol' pigskin.
"It's akin to putting a weight on a bat and swinging it before you go to the plate," Childress said.
Asked whether the Vikings want to change the way Peterson carries the ball, the coach said: "When he's here."
The players, at least publicly, weren't worried about their missing-in-action teammates.
"I cry myself to sleep every night," defensive end Jared Allen said, with heavy sarcasm. He added: "Those guys are their own people. They're going to do what they do."
Allen was then asked what he would do if there were a Jared Allen Day planned in his hometown. "I'd be doing jumping jacks ... right now. I wouldn't even be here."
Winfield gave Peterson a pass, too.
"We know what he brings to the table. We know he's a hard worker. We're not worried about that," Winfield said.
Notes: Winfield said his broken right foot, which kept him out of six games last season, finally felt better two months ago. "I went and had an injection that stopped the inflammation and knocked everything out," he said. "I've been running without any pain. I can't wait" for the season to start. ... Winfield said he has been focusing on footwork drills and workouts he used to do at Ohio State "that kept me healthy." ... Griffin only took part in stretching, but Henderson participated in footwork drills and is ahead of schedule following surgery on his broken left leg. "Nobody's told me to be pessimistic about it," Childress said, asked about Henderson's chance of playing in the opener.Thanks Ted!
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Everybody knows there are different rules for different players. I have no problem with that. But how your superstar running back gets a public dressing down for skipping a couple days while another is given a pass is a mystery to me.
I'm not sure if I was a Vikes fan that I'd like a second year guy (Harvin) skipping the voluntary stuff, either."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Harvin can just say, "Not now, I have a headache." I've heard that works for some people in other situations.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.Originally posted by packrulz
"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by bobbleheadSee, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.Originally posted by packrulz
"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."
Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.
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Different players do have different rules - this isn't knew. the team itself all knew brett was going to get special treatment this off season. It's really no big secret.
If Peyton manning wanted to miss time right now for really "no other reason then not wanting to practice" - you think the colts would punish him? I am not saying AP isn't "special" enough to warrant SOME missed time, but skipping mandatory camps when you have a MAJOR problem that is holding you back from being one of the best ever, and is costing your team games, is just not acceptable.
Brett Favre is who he is. Him being at camp is not really going to make him any better of a player than he already is. He proved that last season.
Adrian is different, They want to change the way he holds the ball, and thats hard to do if your not there. I am sure Jared Allen could miss time too if he wanted.
It's the NFL - everyone has different rules. It doesn't give anyone a true excuse. Favre was already excused from missing the practices before they ever came about - AP was not. favre also, in general, has given fair warning he wouldn't be there (simply by not stating if he is coming back or not) AP gave what, 2 days? Something like that.
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Don't you think Brett is manipulating the team though, and some of the other players like AP might resent it? He can still play, and I understand he's getting older and needs to save himself for the regular season, but why can't he give a straight answer and just say "I'm going to play", and come to camp to throw a few passes around? He's throwing them to the high schoolers: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...in-mississippi
Think of the other players who have to come in and bust their asses and he can waltz in at the last minute and be a starter, year after year. I think it's selfish of him. I'm just glad the Packers don't have to deal with that, ARod will be here working like the rest of the guys.Thanks Ted!
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