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[Scott Campbell]

Looks like the governor of MN is learning to choke right out of the Brett Favre playbook. They Favred away their season, and now may Favre away the entire team.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...dget-proposal/

I know when the Lakers moved from Minny to L.A. they kept the team name. Still, L.A. Vikings just doesn't sound right.

The proposed stadium would be located west of LA proper in Industry, CA.

"The City of Industry Vikings" kind of has a ring to it.

I'm not sure Brett is going to like being second banana to Kobe. LA's not big enough for the both of them. And Kobe doesn't choke.

[Noodle]

And Kobe doesn't choke.

Well, that depends on whether you believed him or her.

[woodbuck27]

Woody, shit went down the way it did and it aint changing. Why do you continue to argue with a useless piece of shit like campbell? You allow him have what he wants and that is to ruin this forum. Just let that BS go and work with those who have something interesting to say. Maybe avoid this thread for a while if you have to.

Really Mad I'm not arguing with SC. I'm trying to make some sense with this man. Maybe referring to SC as a man and or imagining so is my error in judgement?

Because of the respect I have for you and others here I'm done with SC. I bow out. SC may never change but I can.

[woodbuck27]

And so it begins again...

Vikings want Favre's decision soon

The consensus guess is that Brett Favre will return. But Favre has proved it's virtually impossible to predict what he'll do next. The Vikings, although they won't say it, need to know Favre's plans before March 5, when the trading deadline opens, so they would be able to compete with other teams to acquire, for instance, a Donovan McNabb from Philadelphia or a Matt Hasselbeck from Seattle, or whomever they would try to bring in.

After the tremendous season Favre had last there is no reason for him to dally with his decision to come back for one more try. He had to think realistically and realize that the trip to the Super Bowl was a two year plan.

Retiring at the top of his game isn't an option as I try to understand Brett Favre. Especially coming so close in the NFC Championship game. I hope Favre gets onboard fast for 2010 especially given it's an uncapped year and the Vikings should know what's missing to really be seen as going for it.

The last thing that Packer fans want is for Favre to continue. The best thing that Packer fans can hope for is for Brett Favre to hang em up. I can't see him being accomodating.

[hoosier]

After the tremendous season Favre had last there is no reason for him to dally with his decision to come back for one more try.

Then why is he dallying and posting thank-yous to his fans that make it sound like he's retiring--again?

He had to think realistically and realize that the trip to the Super Bowl was a two year plan. Retiring at the top of his game isn't an option as I try to understand Brett Favre. Especially coming so close in the NFC Championship game. I hope Favre gets onboard fast for 2010 especially given it's an uncapped year and the Vikings should know what's missing to really be seen as going for it.

Two year plan? Why, because it was going to take Favre a year to get to know Childress's offensive scheme? If next year is any different it will be because it is a year too late: Pat Williams is in decline and talking retirement, Hutchinson's play fell off in 2009, and Favre himself will be 41. I don't think "wait till next year" has a very cheery ring for Vikings fans right now.

The last thing that Packer fans want is for Favre to continue. The best thing that Packer fans can hope for is for Brett Favre to hang em up. I can't see him being accomodating.

I think most Packer fans wish that Favre would disappear from the media spotlight AND return to the Vikings in 2010 so that the Packers can get some venganza.

[Patler]

After the tremendous season Favre had last there is no reason for him to dally with his decision to come back for one more try. He had to think realistically and realize that the trip to the Super Bowl was a two year plan.

Retiring at the top of his game isn't an option as I try to understand Brett Favre. Especially coming so close in the NFC Championship game. I hope Favre gets onboard fast for 2010 especially given it's an uncapped year and the Vikings should know what's missing to really be seen as going for it.

The last thing that Packer fans want is for Favre to continue. The best thing that Packer fans can hope for is for Brett Favre to hang em up. I can't see him being accomodating.

How is his past season any different than his last season in GB? Many said that was his best season until then, he barely missed the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game, and the Packers were young and rising. The vast majority of fans wanted him back.

If he could decide to retire then, he can certainly decide to retire now.

Are you suggesting he has a grudge against the Packer fans?

[woodbuck27]

[quote="Patler"]

After the tremendous season Favre had last there is no reason for him to dally with his decision to come back for one more try. He had to think realistically and realize that the trip to the Super Bowl was a two year plan.

Retiring at the top of his game isn't an option as I try to understand Brett Favre. Especially coming so close in the NFC Championship game. I hope Favre gets onboard fast for 2010 especially given it's an uncapped year and the Vikings should know what's missing to really be seen as going for it.

The last thing that Packer fans want is for Favre to continue. The best thing that Packer fans can hope for is for Brett Favre to hang em up. I can't see him being accomodating.

How is his past season any different than his last season in GB? Many said that was his best season until then, he barely missed the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game, and the Packers were young and rising. The vast majority of fans wanted him back.

If he could decide to retire then, he can certainly decide to retire now.

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How is his past season any different than his last season in GB? Many said that was his best season until then, he barely missed the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game, and the Packers were young and rising. The vast majority of fans wanted him back.

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My response to you:

Ohh my. Here we go again. Can we ever agree on this issue or get real and stop jerking this around? The Packer management wasn't on with Brett Favre after the 2007 season and decided that Aaron Rodgers was their starting QB Patler. What the Packer fans wanted or didn't is moot. Favre was out as a starter in Green Bay.

In respect. Whether a majority of Packer fans wanted Favre back after the loss to the Giants I'll leave to your analysis Patler based on your excellence with the stat's.

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Are you suggesting he has a grudge against the Packer fans?

My response to you:

No I'm not suggesting such a thing Patler. For you to go there is foolish on your part. Please don't try to bait me in such a serious issue as that allegation appears to be. Maybe I'm confused with your query Patler? It's clear to me that Brett Favre always has been upfront on his respect for Packer fans in general.

Have you evidence of anything to the contrary Patler?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ohh my. Here we go again. Can we ever agree on this issue or get real and stop jerking this around? The Packer management wasn't on with Brett Favre after the 2007 season and decided that Aaron Rodgers was their starting QB Patler. What the Packer fass wanted or didn't is moot. Favre was out as a starter in Green bay.

Here's where I think you are completely clueless. If Favre announced soon after the 2007 season that he wanted to return, he would have been the starting QB in 2008. No question in my mind.

[woodbuck27]

Ohh my. Here we go again. Can we ever agree on this issue or get real and stop jerking this around? The Packer management wasn't on with Brett Favre after the 2007 season and decided that Aaron Rodgers was their starting QB Patler. What the Packer fass wanted or didn't is moot. Favre was out as a starter in Green bay.

Here's where I think you are completely clueless. If Favre announced soon after the 2007 season that he wanted to return, he would have been the starting QB in 2008. No question in my mind.

We don't know absolutely for sure what happened Harvey.

[hoosier]

Ohh my. Here we go again. Can we ever agree on this issue or get real and stop jerking this around? The Packer management wasn't on with Brett Favre after the 2007 season and decided that Aaron Rodgers was their starting QB Patler. What the Packer fass wanted or didn't is moot. Favre was out as a starter in Green bay.

We don't know absolutely for sure what happened.

It sure sounds like you think you know for sure what happened.

I think there will never be agreement on this because what's being argued is not the facts, or our limited insight into what actually went down. Instead, the arguments are based on personal likes and dislikes, admiration for Favre and distaste for Thompson. There is no way that any amount of reasoning can change how someone feels about TT, so this discussion is pointless.

[ThunderDan]

Ohh my. Here we go again. Can we ever agree on this issue or get real and stop jerking this around? The Packer management wasn't on with Brett Favre after the 2007 season and decided that Aaron Rodgers was their starting QB Patler. What the Packer fass wanted or didn't is moot. Favre was out as a starter in Green bay.

Here's where I think you are completely clueless. If Favre announced soon after the 2007 season that he wanted to return, he would have been the starting QB in 2008. No question in my mind.

We don't know absolutely for sure what happened Harvey.

What I do know for certain is that BF retired after the 2007 season taking himself off of the roster and out of the starting QB position. That is a fact no if ands or buts.

[Brandon494]

Favre has been on this retirement shit for the past 5 or 6 years and the Packers just got tired of it. If that was his first time brining up retirement I believe they would have let him come back but the shit just got old and they knew what they had in AR. I would have let him come back after that 13-3 season but TT made the right decision going with Rodgers.

[Scott Campbell]

Instead, the arguments are based on personal likes and dislikes, admiration for Favre and distaste for Thompson.

I dunno about this. I liked Favre as much as anybody prior to his unretirement diva act.

[Scott Campbell]

I bow out. SC may never change but I can.

Perhaps one can teach an old goat new tricks.

[hoosier]

Instead, the arguments are based on personal likes and dislikes, admiration for Favre and distaste for Thompson.

I dunno about this. I liked Favre as much as anybody prior to his unretirement diva act.

I think emotion plays out in slightly different ways among the pro and anti Favre crowds. Many of the pro-Favre fans seem to have internalized Favre's antipathy for TT, or maybe they were anti-TT even before the rift (there were certainly plenty of those). The most vehement anti-Favre fans display emotional reactions against the image of the traitor, the former teammate who would go out of his way to hurt his old team and his old fans just to score a personal point. What I am saying has little or nothing to do with how people felt two years ago. It's all about how emtions play into the ways we interpret the rift.