OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Patler]

he's made plenty of great plays and plenty of terrible ones each year

Exactly why many could never cozy up to him as the greatest QB ever in GB. They kept waiting for the playing maturity to kick in and reduce the terrible ones. Over time, the terrible ones take on more significance than the great ones for many fans.

That's OK. It is what being a fan is all about. It would be kind of boring if we all had the same opinions about all of the players.

I have seen two sides to Favre the last 5-6 years. Still plays with lots of injuries, etc. No question about that. Also seems to fear being hit in lots of situations. One of the earliest I recall was when he was running toward the endzone (against the Vikings?) and at about the 5 yard line, a good 3 or 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, he simply threw the ball toward someone rather than take a hit or drive toward the TD. It looked like a panic move. For me, it signified a new phase in his career.

Since then, I've seen Favre run away from fumbles too. Seems to panic just a little in the face of a hit coming, etc. All QBs do in some situations. Not necessarily anything wrong with that.

But it is clear the years have taken their toll on Favre and his willingness to dive toward the endzone as he did against the Bears in a memorable game early in his career. In your 20's you feel invulnerable. As you age you know it isn't so.

Just remember how the QB sneak completely disappeared from the playbook for both Sherman and MM, reportedly because Favre hated going into a pile. favre ran a lot at one time in his career. As soon as Rodgers took over, it returned for MM. If Rodgers is playing in his late 30's he won't run as much either. Only a few have, to my recollection.

But the comments that NO ONE would play with what Favre did is also baloney, in my opinion. Lots of athletes play with lots of very significant injuries, including Manning who a few years ago played the early season while recovering from two knee surgeries that were performed just before TC. Several players mentioned how much pain he was in, and how he gained a lot of respect from the team for it. Yes, he is a whiner and complainer a bit, but has never missed a game in his career either. That is also significant.

[bobblehead]

I have no problem with JH's position. I don't share it one bit, especially after witnessing the punishment he took against NO last NFCCCG.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I have a problem with it, and I can't stand BF anymore. I also like most things JH posts, but I flat out have a problem with this position. I WANT my QB to be a bit of a pussy if it avoids a turnover or injury. Except in the most key moments I WANT him to throw it away when the hit is coming. (or take the sack). The young BF that refused to give up on a play was cool and all, but this most recent year was the BEST SEASON HE EVER HAD. If he had to realize his mortality to achieve it, then so what.

Bert was battered and bloodied on the field against NO and he kept getting up. He chokes at the worst moments, he has been an asshat off the field and to his GB teammates recently, but his heart on the field will never be a question in my book. I can't recall too many times in 20 years that he got up begging for a flag....can you say the same about Brady or Manning??

[mraynrand]

One of the earliest I recall was when he was running toward the endzone (against the Vikings?) and at about the 5 yard line, a good 3 or 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, he simply threw the ball toward someone rather than take a hit or drive toward the TD. It looked like a panic move. For me, it signified a new phase in his career.

http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/?action=view&current=favrebailout.flv

[pbmax]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

Would you just stop laying it on so think? We get it. You disapprove of him now.

[mngolf19]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

What's that go to do with it?

[sharpe1027]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

What's that go to do with it?

That depends on what "it" is. If "it" is your original point, then nothing. If "it" is ways to stir the pot by taking shots at Brett Favre...

[Pugger]

If the officials are gonna "protect" QBs like P. Manning and Brady then they should do it for EVERY QB no matter if they are vets or rookies. The Old Man did take a beating in NO and Rodgers got hit late/face masked with nary a flag in AZ and it costs both teams.

[Tarlam!]

If the officials are gonna "protect" QBs like P. Manning and Brady then they should do it for EVERY QB no matter if they are vets or rookies. The Old Man did take a beating in NO and Rodgers got hit late/face masked with nary a flag in AZ and it costs both teams.

Oh for heaven's sake, Pugger. You're being logical in this thread! Have you no shame??

[Pugger]

If the officials are gonna "protect" QBs like P. Manning and Brady then they should do it for EVERY QB no matter if they are vets or rookies. The Old Man did take a beating in NO and Rodgers got hit late/face masked with nary a flag in AZ and it costs both teams.

Oh for heaven's sake, Pugger. You're being logical in this thread! Have you no shame??

[packerbacker1234]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

What's that go to do with it?

That depends on what "it" is. If "it" is your original point, then nothing. If "it" is ways to stir the pot by taking shots at Brett Favre...

No one had any problems when brett was making the same sort of blocks for us on reverses and stuff... but because it's in Purple it's now evil. Guy was never taught how to properly block, and has continued to do it the same way he has for what, 20 seasons now? I don't expect him to stop.

[channtheman]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

What's that go to do with it?

That depends on what "it" is. If "it" is your original point, then nothing. If "it" is ways to stir the pot by taking shots at Brett Favre...

No one had any problems when brett was making the same sort of blocks for us on reverses and stuff... but because it's in Purple it's now evil. Guy was never taught how to properly block, and has continued to do it the same way he has for what, 20 seasons now? I don't expect him to stop.

Pretty much. What I don't get is why you think it is weird that people would now hate Bert because he plays in purple.

[ThunderDan]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

What's that go to do with it?

That depends on what "it" is. If "it" is your original point, then nothing. If "it" is ways to stir the pot by taking shots at Brett Favre...

No one had any problems when brett was making the same sort of blocks for us on reverses and stuff... but because it's in Purple it's now evil. Guy was never taught how to properly block, and has continued to do it the same way he has for what, 20 seasons now? I don't expect him to stop.

I have a problem with any player no matter what team he plays for (GB included) that goes low and illegally blocks another player.

[sharpe1027]

No one had any problems when brett was making the same sort of blocks for us on reverses and stuff... but because it's in Purple it's now evil. Guy was never taught how to properly block, and has continued to do it the same way he has for what, 20 seasons now? I don't expect him to stop.

That's the first time I remember him throwing a blocks both from behind the defender and at the knees. Not to mention that the guy had to leave the game with knee pain.

Then again, he was wearing purple and that DOES make it evil in my book.

[mraynrand]

No one had any problems when brett was making the same sort of blocks for us on reverses and stuff... but because it's in Purple it's now evil. Guy was never taught how to properly block, and has continued to do it the same way he has for what, 20 seasons now? I don't expect him to stop.

That's the first time I remember him throwing a blocks both from behind the defender and at the knees. Not to mention that the guy had to leave the game with knee pain.

Then again, he was wearing purple and that DOES make it evil in my book.

If only he had done that to Sapp in 2002. The only Packer who had any balls to get in Sapp's face after Clifton was Shermy. Pathetic.

[Joemailman]

Yep. Mike Sherman's finest moment.