OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[RashanGary]

I'd go on to say Favre's whole personality is a sham. He's fake, fake, fake. His charm is unsurpassed, but it's so disingenuous, it's repulsive.

[RashanGary]

With Rodgers, he says the right things too, without lying, but there are pauses, and moments of body language that you can tell what he's actually thinking. His body language is, "guys, I don't want to answer this, but I'm just happy to have an opportunity". He never complained about the Favre drama, but you knew it really bothered him by his true body language. With Favre, he sounds like he's swearing on his childeren's lives. There is no genuine body language to make you see his true self. The only reason you know is because you pin all of other pieces together and you've seen it for 10 years. He's a scary liar.

[get louder at lambeau]

I'd go on to say Favre's whole personality is a sham. He's fake, fake, fake. His charm is unsurpassed, but it's so disingenuous, it's repulsive.

I wonder if Deanna would agree with you on that one? Seems like she would, but I haven't heard about her going Elin Woods on him just yet.

[Scott Campbell]

She's his number one enabler.

[swede]

She's his number one enabler.

The smart move is to wait until Brett's earning capacity is maxed out before divorcing him. The clock is ticking.

How does Mormon law work in terms of divorce? Each wife gets a horse, 1.4 kids, and a swing with a frying pan?

[Scott Campbell]

The smart move is to wait until Brett's earning capacity is maxed out before divorcing him. The clock is ticking.

How does Mormon law work in terms of divorce? Each wife gets a horse, 1.4 kids, and a swing with a frying pan?

Divorce? You can't even get away from your wives in the afterlife. You're sealed for eternity.

[Iron Mike]

Divorce? You can't even get away from your wives in the afterlife. You're sealed for eternity.

Only if you die wearing your temple garments.....

[Scott Campbell]

Only if you die wearing your temple garments.....

The locals prefer to call them "Jesus Jammies".

[Pugger]

Woodbuck;

Perhaps you have forgotten the exchange with Peppers after the last Bears/Vikings game? In case you have, here is a good summary of the then-existing situation and Favre's unsolicited comment to Peppers:


There was nothing for MN to gain from the Bears beating the Packers.
There was nothing for Chicago to gain from the Bears beating the Packers, except eliminating the Packers.
There was no reason for Favre to even mention it at that time except for his deep seeded desire to see the Packer organization fail.

I for one have not believed what Favre tells the media for a long time, from before he left Green Bay. He says what is in his best interest to say. The comment made to Peppers, a personal comment not meant for the media, is a better indicator of his true feelings than is a comment made to reporters that he hoped GB would win the Super Bowl.

Favre's image took a tremendous blow last season. He is trying to repair it, I suspect. However, the unplanned, off-the-cuff comment to Peppers indicates he still holds great resentment for the Packers, still wants to see them fail. I suspect the Packers' Super Bowl win hurt/disappointed him as much as it did for most Steeler fans.

Eventually, Favre's number will be retired officially in a ceremony during a Packer game, and his name will be added to those on the stadium ring. Eventually, the animosity will subside for Favre, the Packers and fans, but that special relationship between the Packers and Favre will never return.

Patler has nailed it again. Yes, Favre will be welcomed back into the fold but not until after TT and the current Packers' management and coaches are long gone.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck;

Perhaps you have forgotten the exchange with Peppers after the last Bears/Vikings game? In case you have, here is a good summary of the then-existing situation and Favre's unsolicited comment to Peppers:


There was nothing for MN to gain from the Bears beating the Packers.
There was nothing for Chicago to gain from the Bears beating the Packers, except eliminating the Packers.
There was no reason for Favre to even mention it at that time except for his deep seeded desire to see the Packer organization fail.

I for one have not believed what Favre tells the media for a long time, from before he left Green Bay. He says what is in his best interest to say. The comment made to Peppers, a personal comment not meant for the media, is a better indicator of his true feelings than is a comment made to reporters that he hoped GB would win the Super Bowl.

Favre's image took a tremendous blow last season. He is trying to repair it, I suspect. However, the unplanned, off-the-cuff comment to Peppers indicates he still holds great resentment for the Packers, still wants to see them fail. I suspect the Packers' Super Bowl win hurt/disappointed him as much as it did for most Steeler fans.

Eventually, Favre's number will be retired officially in a ceremony during a Packer game, and his name will be added to those on the stadium ring. Eventually, the animosity will subside for Favre, the Packers and fans, but that special relationship between the Packers and Favre will never return.

I choose to debate your position Patler and I write to you ' the Packer fan '.

What amazes me is that any fan, or any person, not directly connected to the sport. Would allow such 'gamesmanship'. Based on personal feelings that any Pro athlete might have about a former employer. To emotionally impact him/her, ' the fan ' .

Why would 'any fan' ie you Patler. Be emotionally moved about something that is normal? Normal in life in general.

Do Pro athletes have a special clause to live by? After Favre left Green Bay should he have been cheering for Green Bay Packer success?

It happens all the time that athletes change teams thus loyalities. Patler, you and I are not Pro's. We are fans. We may have participated in amatuer sports where changing affiliation has a zero emotional impact on the future. Players on the other side are still wished well. Maybe you or I wanted that former team to lose badly and made that wish well known?

Whatever position one takes isn't it 'a free choice'?

Patler ... if you were a Pro athlete playing for a team and that team traded you. Would 'you' wish that team every success in the future?

GO PACKERS!

[retailguy]

if you were a Pro athlete playing for a team and that team traded you. Would 'you' wish that team every success in the future?

I am not Patler, but, I'd like to answer this part.

Yes, I would continue to root for the team that gave me a home for 16 seasons, and paid me $100m dollars over my career. I would root for them to win every time I had nothing on the line with my current team. But, then again, I'm honest enough that I would accept some responsibility for being traded, as I was very unclear and non-committal regarding my future plans related to playing football. I'm honest enough to recognize that had I not done that for 7 straight seasons, perhaps, I would not have been replaced, nor traded.

But, that's me, and not the ego maniac that you're discussing....

[Guiness]

I choose to debate your position Patler and I write to you ' the Packer fan '.

What amazes me is that any fan, or any person, not directly connected to the sport. Would allow such 'gamesmanship'. Based on personal feelings that any Pro athlete might have about a former employer. To emotionally impact him/her, ' the fan ' .

Why would 'any fan' ie you Patler. Be emotionally moved about something that is normal? Normal in life in general.

Do Pro athletes have a special clause to live by? After Favre left Green Bay should he have been cheering for Green Bay Packer success?

It happens all the time that athletes change teams thus loyalities. Patler, you and I are not Pro's. We are fans. We may have participated in amatuer sports where changing affiliation has a zero emotional impact on the future. Players on the other side are still wished well. Maybe you or I wanted that former team to lose badly and made that wish well known?

Whatever position one takes isn't it 'a free choice'?

Patler ... if you were a Pro athlete playing for a team and that team traded you. Would 'you' wish that team every success in the future?

GO PACKERS!

I agree with Patler that that comment showed Favre's true persona more than anything else. Yes, he's a pro athlete, but was acting anything like a professional.

Should he wish the Packers every success in the future? No, that's not expected. But a professional would've kept his mouth shut.

I would hazard a guess that amateur athletes have a stronger affiliation to 'home' teams than pros. Because they truly are home teams. For instance, I would never play hockey for Wullerton (SPIT!). But a pro goes where the paycheck leads him.

[Lurker64]

I would never play hockey for Wullerton (SPIT!).

I didn't know you were from Dog River.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Should Favre have been actively wishing ill upon his former team, nearly 3 years after leaving them?

He sounds like someone who needs to let it go as well.

[Bossman641]

I choose to debate your position Patler and I write to you ' the Packer fan '.

What amazes me is that any fan, or any person, not directly connected to the sport. Would allow such 'gamesmanship'. Based on personal feelings that any Pro athlete might have about a former employer. To emotionally impact him/her, ' the fan ' .

Why would 'any fan' ie you Patler. Be emotionally moved about something that is normal? Normal in life in general.

Do Pro athletes have a special clause to live by? After Favre left Green Bay should he have been cheering for Green Bay Packer success?

It happens all the time that athletes change teams thus loyalities. Patler, you and I are not Pro's. We are fans. We may have participated in amatuer sports where changing affiliation has a zero emotional impact on the future. Players on the other side are still wished well. Maybe you or I wanted that former team to lose badly and made that wish well known?

Whatever position one takes isn't it 'a free choice'?

Patler ... if you were a Pro athlete playing for a team and that team traded you. Would 'you' wish that team every success in the future?

GO PACKERS!

WB it has nothing to do with free choice or emotions. You tried to paint Favre as someone who had gotten over the Packer situation and had reached the point of wishing success for the Packers. From his comments to Peppers, that is clearly not the case. He's a bitter old man, that's all.