OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

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[mission]

I found my second person to add to the ignore list...

[woodbuck27]

You got that backwards: time wounds all heels.

I predict it will be a loooong time before the Packers retire #4, not because management hates Favre but because Favre's animosity toward TT would not allow him to participate in any retirement ceremony. What would it take to bring Favre back to Lambeau as a Packer whose number is being retired? TT, MM and Murphy would have to crash and burn first, and get replaced by a new adminstration that has no connection to the current one. Not gonna happen for a long time.

Isn't it time we finally clean the rumours and lies up at Packerrats RE: Brett Favre? Do so with some sence of humility and decent respect for one another here?

To establish the TRUTH as it exists today. To allow this Packer Forum Home to heal as it justly deserves instead of wallowing in needless animosity over a Packer GREAT.

My advice....THINK. Do you need to take on the challenge that I propose below?

hoosier you have every opportunity to back up your claims in the above. Until you do your post means 'Jackshit'. I don't believe you can supply positive proof to support that Favre continues feeing animosity over anything TT and / or MM or Murphy.

Please offer this forum ** your proof or humble yourself and stop posting nonsence.

This isn't about debate of animosty among members here. This isn't about attacking 'the poster'. This is about backing yourself up in terms of your post. This is 'about healing at Packerrats' and that's bigger than any member here.

** I do not believe you can do so in terms of the post above. Back yourself up or pleae recognize that your attitude isn't healthy for you in terms of the legacy that Brett Favre so richly deserves.

Thanks for your time. Have a Super weekend. We are enjoying a long weekend here in Canada.

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

Yes, but by putting the willingness out there, they show that it's Favre being the baby about it, not the team.

Ohh isn't that post special; a real leap of misconception.

Read my post to hoosier and substitute hoosiers name for your own MJZiggy. It's time you get it to the TRUTH and not to something you continue to corrupt this forum with in terms of the legacy that Brett Favre deserves. Take your petiness and hatred MJZiggy and flush it. Instead of smearing it all over this forum.

You just do NOT get it in terms of Brett Favre and in that respect 'stink up the air' in Packerrats. Get over yourself please.

I give you credit for one thing . That post above by you is about as useless as last months deviled ham sandwich. In fact it's so pointlessly thought out that I'm just going to disregard it as bullshit. It stinks so much I don't even want to go near it.

[woodbuck27]

I think Favre needs to make his peace with Ted Thompson while Thompson is still with the Packers. If he waits until Thompson is gone and then says "Hey everybody, I'm back!", he'll get a lot of one finger salutes. Most of the fans will come around if Favre and Thomson heal the rift, but the decision is Favre's. He has to bury the hatchet.

Joemailman...if you had taken the time to get over yourself. You would by now have fully learned that 'in fact' Brett Favre holds no animosity over 'anything Green Pay Packer'. 'Of course' that includes Packer GM Ted Thompson and HC Mike McCarthy and the Green Bay Packer elected president of the executive committee Mark Murphy.

Just relax or try to contain yourself. Simply observe the TRUTH reveal itself. It would do this forum 'nor you little good' to try to 'headbang with me'.

[woodbuck27]

I agree, it would do quite a bit to turn fan attitudes around. It will take someone to play peacemaker and make the first calls (Campen? ), but it would be for the best.

Maybe Andrew Brandt could do it and he would have five more years of articles about the Packers and Favre to write.

Yea sure.The Good Old boy from the deep south seeths every day with such hatred and animosity over anything Green Bay Packer.

Not you too pbmax.

[woodbuck27]

I found my second person to add to the ignore list...

mission ....if your open minded 'you can' learn. You gain nothing by ignoring any part of this issue. All you demonstrate in that negative measure is your ignorance and all withstanding as a Packer fan. Especially that in terms of A Green Bay Packer great. Don't you really want to share the happiness with all of us that see 'for Brett Favre' as the Green Bay Packer QB even though he demonstrated his very humaness to us at times and therefore looked bad in so doing.

You might take the same position I proposed to Joemailman. It seems to me that you fellas need a tad more seasoning than some here before offering yourself up to broach this issue of arriving at the TRUTH.

Now here's a rather novel idea for you to consider mission. I invite you to join me. To take a unique approach towords enlightenment. To assist me in securing healing at Packerrats. To share in that ideal.

GO PACKERS !

[Smeefers]

I can't wait to pay scalpers price, just so I can go in and boo the shit out of the man along with half the stadium.

[woodbuck27]

An adaption of: Burning heart

Two worlds collide, rival camps
So unnecessary 'A primitive clash'.
Fans collide...seven years frustration
Hope against hope ... so much at stake.
Seems we duke it out. Honour against the ropes.
No clear answer...No knockout blow.
Does the crowd understand?
Like North Vs South; man against man
Can we be strong ... stand alone?

In the burning heart, just about to burst
There's a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst.
In the darkest night, rising like a spire
In the burning heart, the unmistakable fire.

In the warrior's code, there's no surrender.
It's TRUTH alone ... the tallest member.
A body screems 'STOP'... 'a SPIRIT' cries never.
Deep in our soul ... 'a quiet ember'.
Tis NOT me ... rather 'you Vs you'. Negative constant render.

You I challenge.
Find TRUTH ... bring it together.
No puzzle so strong ... no difficult task.
The paradox drives on. OUR team needs us strong.
A battle of wills ... the heat of attack
A passion that kills... Vs. Victory.
It's OURS ... OUR own.

In the burning heart ... about to burst.
Lies a quest for answers ...unquenchable thirst.
In the darkest night, rising like a spire.
In the burning heart ... unmistakable fire.


GO PACKERS !

[MJZiggy]

Woodbuck, considering that he's just put you on his ignore list, he can't really read your response, now can he? Obviously the point went right over your head that the Packers have made a genius PR move here. They threw an olive branch out with this hint of a suggestion. If Favre does not agree to it, then yes, he winds up looking like a baby whether you like it or not. But by making the first move, the team looks like the ones with no hard feelings, wouldn't you say?

[Pugger]

Deputy Nutz. I respect your stance on this issue. You represent the hard line opposition to the Favre haters.

Gradually the rest of us have been reduced to aiming for a compromise or common sence just to get some PEACE on this forum.

a) Of course none of it can possibly do with how Brett Favre was as our teams offensive leader playing so distinguishedly.

b) How he did such a large part to restore the Packer Organization back to respectability.

Did anyone forget that...He's the only NFL player to win back to back to back NFL MVP's. Just that gets him into the NFL HOF as a first ballot candidate . How many achievements after that including the record of consecutive game starts 'all positions except kicker' get him the same honour?

It's just shameful for me to become aware of any Packer fan that would sincerely 'attempt in any way' to take that away from him. To do so and expect credibility as a Packer fan or a knowledgeable NFL fan? I've had to come to terms with that. Call upon every rational I have as a discriminating person to understand that. I always struggle with that one.

We'll likely NOT ever see another QB like Brett Favre. He was unique and wonderful. For so long the Icon of the NFL.

When it's all said and done can Packer fans forget:

c) That he was voted the 90's decade's Top QB on NFL.Com.

d) Deny that throughout two decades FAVRE was a TOP FIVE QB and dispute that and try to dispute that he was 'at least a TOP TEN QB' for consecutive decades?

e) Fault Bret Favre without answering the question. How many QB's in NFL history have been recognized by experts with that distinction in d) ?

One was Dan Marino. Brett Favre and Dan Marino. There's some fast company.

Brett Favre's number 4 'with the Packers', should be retired ASAP. Anything less than that is utter nonsence.

GO PACKERS !

I don't think Nutz is talking about Favre. He most likely is saying we aren't gonna win another SB with Rodgers and company.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, considering that he's just put you on his ignore list, he can't really read your response, now can he? Obviously the point went right over your head that the Packers have made a genius PR move here. They threw an olive branch out with this hint of a suggestion. If Favre does not agree to it, then yes, he winds up looking like a baby whether you like it or not. But by making the first move, the team looks like the ones with no hard feelings, wouldn't you say?

Your sadly and again using pettiness to try and gain points MJ.

Bring me proof of what you substantiate. Ohh and MJ instead of brewing trouble as your seems so aspired to do. 'Who ignores who' adds nothing in terms of TRUTH and the question we will resolve inspite of your hatefulness. Frankly MJZiggy 'WHO IGNORES WHO ' is none of your business. Bringing that up makes you look really bad 'member' and seperastes you completely from the ideal I aspire to here.

MJ You often hold a cup that too often dribbles water. Isn't it best you just take a rest on this one for a change.

MJ.....How many wrongs does it take to defeat RIGHT?

By the way in case your 'confused again'...I'm right.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[Pugger]

Woodbuck, considering that he's just put you on his ignore list, he can't really read your response, now can he? Obviously the point went right over your head that the Packers have made a genius PR move here. They threw an olive branch out with this hint of a suggestion. If Favre does not agree to it, then yes, he winds up looking like a baby whether you like it or not. But by making the first move, the team looks like the ones with no hard feelings, wouldn't you say?

Woodbuck is one of the minority of fans who still think Favre was somehow wronged in this situation. If that's how he feels nothing any of us say will change his mind.

[Pugger]

Your sadly and again using pettiness to try and gain points MJ.

Bring me proof of what you substantiate. Ohh and MJ instead of brewing trouble as your seems so aspired to do. 'Who ignores who' adds nothing in terms of TRUTH and the question we will resolve inspite of your hatefulness. Frankly MJZiggy 'WHO IGNORES WHO ' is none of your business. Bringing that up makes you look really bad 'member' and seperastes you completely from the ideal I aspire to here.

MJ You often hold a cup that too often dribbles water. Isn't it best you just take a rest on this one for a change.

MJ.....How many wrongs does it take to defeat RIGHT?

is it your platform or business to comment on that? NO!

keep the useless remarks to yourself and only add something constructive not you8r penchant for

To change the quote from Hamlet - the man doth protests too much - especially when it comes to Favre. Good lord, if some of us have no use for our previous QB why does that bother you so much??? You are still a fan. Bully for you. Don't preach to us if we feel differently.

The Packers offered an olive branch. Let's see how #4 responds.

[woodbuck27]

I don't think Nutz is talking about Favre. He most likely is saying we aren't gonna win another SB with Rodgers and company.

I'm 'of course NOT sure' but just maybe....Deputy Nutz is referring to the effects of positive Vs negative KARMA.... " bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad ".

Maybe it's as I feel. That hatred and continued brewing of animosity for Brett Favre. Is pointless nonsence.

So tedious and not in any form constructive in terms of where our Packer fans need to be.

It's sad that more here don't see it this way.

PACKERS !