OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Fritz]

I think the lower completion rate was due to the fact that he didn't play the West Coast offense. Most of his throws were downfield. I think they had John Jefferson, James Lofton and Paul Coffman at the time. If Rodgers relied on his downfield completion percentage alone, it'd be the same for him.

I was thrilled when they traded for Jefferson. I still think that trio is one of the best in all of Packer history. Lofton was just a gazelle; he was beautiful to watch. Jefferson was not quite what he was in San Diego (I think that's where he was), but he was still awfully good. And Coffman - he had really good hands, and he knew how to get open.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'd like to have any one of three right now...especially Coffman.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Nice feature article by Bedard, err, Dunne:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/brett-favre-found-b99383084z1-281524621.html

[woodbuck27]

Nice feature article by Bedard, err, Dunne:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...281524621.html

I was searching for a thread and discovered this great article.

Not one Packerats commented on it's quality. Made any comment at all.

WOW....just wow ! What a shame.




Thanks Tyrion Lannister. It's late and I have to come back to it. It's long and I havn't gotten to the video portions. It certainly appears as if Brett Favre is doing well. That's some shack and estate he lives on.

Later......

[Pugger]

Comparing old guys to modern guys is good conversation, but there's really no meaningful metric to do it. The game and the players have changed too much. Was Jerry Rice better than Don Hutson? Dan Marino better than Cecil Isbell? It's like comparing a modern day Ferrari to a Duesenberg.

In their day Herber and Isbell were elite talents. Lambeau called Herber the best long passer ever and he called Isbell the best passer of the two. Go figure. Isbell was an outstanding runner; Herber was a dud. Herber was the better punter. A good part of their fame was the fact that they were pioneers of an evolving game. Hutson too.

Of the modern guys on your list, I'd rank them:

1 Bart Starr
2 Aaron Rodgers
3 Brett Favre
4 Lynn Dickey
5 Tobin Rote
5 Don Majkowski

I put Starr on top simply because he was far and away the best field general in football in an era when the QB called his own plays. Sure, he was surrounded by talent, but so was Favre and Dickey (at least on offense). Plus, Starr took care of the ball like Rodgers does, which I highly value. Starr was irritating to watch they way he took sacks, but he also stood in there and took the hits. Very brave man.

Rodgers? What can I say that we don't all know. He is like Bart Starr on steroids.

Favre? I've often said he's the most exciting player I've ever seen, but not the best QB. I've seen him throw too many times into triple coverage when the game was on the line. When he was on, he was exciting.

Dickey was a great passer, as you say. But he had problems turning the ball over as well.

Tobin Rote and Don Majkowski were similar types. They were good runners, good passers and gave hope to the Packer faithful in lean times.

As far as Starr's standing among all QB's in his era, I'd take him over Unitas. Johnny was a better passer by far, but Starr was cool and consistent in the clutch, which was his hallmark.

[Pugger]

Seriously, I'm with you. Those were some hard years but who can forget the Monday Night Shootout with the Champion Redskins.

I was there! Big wins were few and far between back then so it was a real treat to win that one!

[George Cumby]

I was there! Big wins were few and far between back then so it was a real treat to win that one!

That's rad! I stayed up late to watch the game and kept reading about it as I delivered the WSJ the next morning.

[mraynrand]

That's rad! I stayed up late to watch the game and kept reading about it as I delivered the WSJ the next morning.

Whut? You read the paper in the dark, while you were delivering it? I used to deliver the Milwaukee Urinal, and even as an afternoon paper, I could only make out the headlines. Still, it could be because I was only reading at a first grade level, but come to think of it, that's the level the Urinal wrote at. Ahh, never mind...

[George Cumby]

Whut? You read the paper in the dark, while you were delivering it? I used to deliver the Milwaukee Urinal, and even as an afternoon paper, I could only make out the headlines. Still, it could be because I was only reading at a first grade level, but come to think of it, that's the level the Urinal wrote at. Ahh, never mind...

Street lamps, my man, street lamps.

[woodbuck27]

Fr. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...281524621.html

The play call ... " 72 X Shallow Cross "

" An enlarged scoreboard reads, 17-14 Falcons, third and 1 at the 9-yard line, 15 seconds left. Defensive end Chuck Smith is helpless, turned over like a dying fish. Favre is airborne, diving across the goal line for the victory. " **

** His 1994 dive into the end zone at County Stadium — the final Packers game in Milwaukee.


" After 20 years of highs, lows, emotional skydives, Brett Favre's world has slowed down. Pro football's ironman has found peace, his way.

When that pilgrimage to Lambeau Field closes in, Favre knows it'll feel real. Next year, No. 4 will be retired. Closing this chapter — in a good way, he punctuates — "needed to be done."..."

GO PACK GO !

[KYPack]

He returns.

Brett is back in GB today for an event at Bart Starr's Rawhide Ranch.

He'll speak briefly at the steakhouse and at Rawhide Ranch.

BLF has no plans to attend the Packer Falcon's game.

I suppose he doesn't want to take from the teams by being a distraction.

It would be a natural time to make an announcement of some kind of peace treaty, Packers, Falcon's, Bart Starr, etc, etc.

Bart is too ill to attend, but is supposedly recovering from his stroke.

[Fritz]

Bart Starr's Rawhide Ranch?

Sounds like a BDSM store.

[LP]

Bart Starr's Rawhide Ranch?

Sounds like a BDSM store.

Voice of experience speaking?

[Smidgeon]

He returns.

Brett is back in GB today for an event at Bart Starr's Rawhide Ranch.

He'll speak briefly at the steakhouse and at Rawhide Ranch.

BLF has no plans to attend the Packer Falcon's game.

I suppose he doesn't want to take from the teams by being a distraction.

It would be a natural time to make an announcement of some kind of peace treaty, Packers, Falcon's, Bart Starr, etc, etc.

Bart is too ill to attend, but is supposedly recovering from his stroke.

Why does it have to be a big deal for him to attend? Why can't he just go to the game without fanfare? Sure, the cameras would pan to him once or twice, but unless the networks went overboard, there would be no distraction...

[QBME]

Why does it have to be a big deal for him to attend? Why can't he just go to the game without fanfare? Sure, the cameras would pan to him once or twice, but unless the networks went overboard, there would be no distraction...

The game is on ESPN with Michaels and Collinsworth. They'd be all over it all night long.