OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Joemailman]

[Scott Campbell]

I won't apologize for my confidence, nor my intelligence or wisdom Tarlam!

[RashanGary]

Scott, your posts are mostly funny, but that one crossed a line.

Time, people. Give it time. It may take a few years, but it will happen.

In the meantime...responding to Patler's belief that very rare should be a jersey/number retirement...how about a compromise? Retire his jersey, and hang it so it looks like this:

Favre
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Inches

He has really big hands. His huge hands make his wiener look tiny

[RashanGary]

Bob Wolfley from JSOnline notes a recent interview with Favre and a Dallas radio station. Here is the link in case you have not read the comments.

He's so full of shit, him not using his retirement threats as leverage. Who gives a shit though, he was on a little power trip, didn't appreciate being in the league nearly enough.

He said he's coming back though. Glad to hear. He played here for a long time and played really well. Now I'm going to leave this topic the fuck alone. I hope the Packers get rid of anyone who makes a scene immediately when the day comes. No good comes out of treating him like shit.

[woodbuck27]

Scott, your posts are mostly funny, but that one crossed a line.

Time, people. Give it time. It may take a few years, but it will happen.

In the meantime...responding to Patler's belief that very rare should be a jersey/number retirement...how about a compromise? Retire his jersey, and hang it so it looks like this:

Favre
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Fritz:

At least you can write certain humor.

That other ahh errrrr mmmm ocassional 'hardly' poster:

It's all 'black' paint. It's fallen 'now' into a state of certain depravity ... 'the 99% shit bracket' of posts from hell.

Then 'of course' on a more empathetic side and the one I'm taking now. It could be something else all together or for ie:

Brain Cancer and Gliomas or Pituitary Tumors and maybe!?

A call or alarm for essential tremor and Stereotactic Thalamotomy. That sort of need of medical attention isn't always determined by, or strictly age related; but possible describing the symptoms calling for deep brain stimulation for Parkinson's Disease or another harder to strictly diagnose form of dementia.

Maybe in the case of this poster. It's an angry response because of something that's always been there or from birth or early childhood. Something like... 'Brain Stem Glioma' that has been primarily and as a root cause of present behaviour propagated to where it exists now by overt or obvious neglect.

This posters (Scott Campbell's) style is a mere call out for some long awaited attention. Obviously Scott Campbell is here. If not trying to post something that's NOT crazy or outrageous but here in some obvious need. I mean Scott Campbell I presume is some human being. Not some Stephen King...ish 'stylized poster' that has one objective and primary focus of late:

To SPAM Packerrats. I truly sense or believe that Scott Campbell needs serious attention... needs help.

Often certain erratic and designed attention grabbing behaviour; is simply and sadly a symptom of a developing adult brain tumor (s).

I'm implying here that SC isn't just one bad ass ugly and disruptive towords anything resembling even a decent sense of PEACE at Packerrats. His style isn't designed so much to create mild chaos by it's obvious 'obsessed characteristics'; as much to me as a man crying out for help.

Possibly those that need to pay attention that live closest to Scott Campbell are neglecting him because of the difficulties he might offer them if they even insinuate help.

I'm sincerely concerned. This posters behaviour is alarming to me. I believe the poster referred to affectionately as Scott Campbell is in serious bad shape. Very possibly in need of some very serious medical attention!?

This hasn't anything to do with Packers.

This has everything to do with the common concern we might pay or might have the decency and awareness of to truly CARE. Exercise a raised level of compassion towards a mutual member at Packerrats.

Am I the 'only' member that might give a damn? I care about Scott Campbell.

At the same time and well right now. I IGNORE Scott Campbell.

See 'the bottom line' is simply this.

Scott Campbell has to care for himself as much as I care for him. Scott Campbell has to love Scott Campbell. Right now that's painfully and obviously ..... a real challenge.

I've witnessed it countless times in the past. He'll not get that done by himself.

Scott Campbell needs help.

For once Scott Campbell act .... responsibly PLEASE. I've never seen you get there and totally before now. I challenge you man.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, if you want to fit in with people, go to people who have similar interests (go to a Favre forum if there are any left.) If you want to argue with people and change their minds about something, just say it. You've never brought Packer fans together. You come here and fight about Favre. You split people up, then guilt people by trotting out your, "we're all Packer fans" BS. If you really wanted to bring people together, you'd bring people together. But that's not the result of your actions. The result is bickering and separation. Spare us the bullshit. And if you really want to bring people together, do it. I'd applaud you and respect you for it.

You're up to your moose horns in bullshit.

JH:

I'm not a one agenda poster here at packerrats . A poster that is driven mostly by any certain passion for Brett Favre. I'm always trying to understand Brett Favre as the enigma he is to this Packer and NFL fan.

I'm simply a poster that struggles to understand Brett Favre and a lot that goes on RE: anything Green Bay Packers. A poster that tries my level best to contribute positively to this forum. If sometimes I choose to disagree with the likes of you and vice versa ... so be it.

I'm not perfect on this one but I generally try to attack the post and not the poster unless it's gotten to personal and then I do my level best to curtail that nonsense. If you want to be 'the alfa male' better man...the better Packer fan. Take that to yourself JH.

Please..... PLEASE. Let go of the silly ass personal attacks JH. The insulting to yourself accusations of my deemed by you bullshit; 'only' raises your own.

I'll inform you of this Packer fan. I'm not about 'anything' even closely resembling bullshit. In terms of Brett Favre I continue to try to understand that man. I'll never hate that man. Far far from that stance JH. There are enough like you to want me to take a far far better approach and anything Brett Favre.

The reason why!? My way is...the BEST way.

If you disagree with my position on anything Brett Favre or with my position here at Packerrats as you've expressed. PLEASE take note, that your derogatory remarks to me have been duly noted; and are in same... taken as some advisement.

I'm always trying to contribute more positives here at Packerrats. It's a constant task and focus of mine.

Now back to you JH:

If anything Brett Favre annoys you to the degree that you have to go one on one with me. Get off this thread as you cannot deal with it's primary focus.

You obviously have to be aggressive or to take it personal. Going there and me is a senseless undertaking as it takes two to tangle.

I'm not going to fight with you when I'm holding the BEST HAND. Your over 'the top' in terms of your 'tell'. Ever play poker JH? I'm very decent.... playing poker. If your sitting at my table. I might own your money.

The Brett Favre thread... JH:

You do not need to be educated and this thread. This thread is about news and all things Brett Favre as they arise. After all, Brett Favre is a certain Green Bay Packer Legend, whether you acknowledge such or not. As a Green Bay Packer QB he has a resume as a Green Bay Packer and the records to be certainly regarded 'by anyone half sensible', as a remarkable Green Bay Packer in 'a certain positive sense'.

There can be 'no doubt' about the greatness of Favre and Packers. Any other view is frankly to be categorized as....deluded by extreme prejudice and therefore ... without merit.

Brett Favre JH. That's the predominant focus of this thread.

Simply try your best or better to deal with that fact, and specifically that without personal harm/injury/insult/ against any poster here?

I'm a poster here and will be until I die JH. Control yourself JH if that's possible. Just try to get a grip. I'm a very proud member of Packerrats. The likes of you have done too much to drive away good people. I'll never suffer such weakness, as the wrath of the likes of you, and running 'high -tail' away from my Packer forum.

PLEASE try your best to recognize why this thread was published here at Packerrts. Why it's existed to this remarkable status, as a noteable thread on Packerrats; and among 'possibly' all forums. a preeminent thread. This tread is all of what Packerrats has been in my view. The 'good, the bad and the ugly'; but now and forever, the crowning achievement of the struggles of many posters at Packerrats. Some of whom we're lost over certain posters like you that choose hatred as your sick platform. That attack with such utter contempt... decent people.

I really don't see you as such. Your not 'a Scott Campbell'. You don't suffer his too obvious issues. I mean SC is a poster here I have a real and personal concern for in terms of his health. His attacks against Favre and anything me and that....certainly don't cause me any sweaty palms/brow. SC is a fanatical person 'with real issues' that he must own.

I feel terrible for the poster known as Scott Campnell. He's a fellow member of my Green bay Packer forum. If I'm 2 cents worth of 'anything even mildly approaching decency'? I'm certainly that thank GOD.

I'd better be concerned for Scott Campbell. Obviously... too many here aren't.

Yet the focus of this post isn't the troubled poster Scott Campbell.

I'm focusing on a poster that has some level of merit. SC has zero of that in my books as a poster here. SC comes here to post garbage.

As a human being it's far different for me and SC. I also know I cannot help him.

It's you JH I hope to reach:

Your type will never drive all the Brett Favre supports for the contribution he did make away. This thread was created for such posters . This was to be a home for such to go on following and possibly appreciating Brett Favre. You and some others here have gone out of your way to do nothing but create chaos and havoc with posters like me. At times the sickness has been almost overwhelming even to a strong man like myself.

You cannot handle the Brett Favre thread because of your extremes of anger and fanatical hatred for that man. Like I posted before. Your hate is BIG JH. You also hate aggressively. Your hate is maybe different than say that projected by other posters here; but that hate you have will unlikely never reside to the level it needs to get too. Too truly appreciating Brett Favre, as I choose to try to do.

See ....I'm not done trying to understand Brett Favre; just as I'm not done trying with you man.

I exercise my freedom to use a positive. Your choosing a negative and so be it; but keep the personal attacks and me inside of yourself. Your the tough guy JH.

Please try to control yourself. Debate without the dink ass animosity and extremes that you've now arrived at. Do you want to drive me out of Packerrats JH. Do you want me to do what so many have done because of your (and the like here of your hatred) JH? Because of your need to use extreme animosity. It's plainly now obvious to me that I must seriously consider resigning at Packerrats.

You want me to quit!?

If so .... FUCK YOU .... JH.

You choose your side and I'll exercise my FREEDOM here to post mine and anything I damn well please and Brett Favre. If you cannot deal with it. Simply ignore the Brett Favre thread or alternatively. If you need to post anything keep it less personal please.

Otherwise ... carry on here at Packerrats (with the ebb and tide of all things Green Bay Packer) and contribute the positive (s) that your certainly capable of and that I personally enjoy.

If your a demonstrator of 'the fricken' party line here' and it must be thus and all things Green Bay Packer. Take that where the sun doesn't shine JH....................................... and me.

You'll never convert me too blindness and a collar and chain.

GO PACK GO !

[RashanGary]

Woody, I said some truths. It wouldn't have gotten to you if I didn't.

At the same time, I wouldn't want you to leave and a part of me knows I got too contentious in those posts, so I apologize for that part.

But Woodbuck, you have a very elusive, passive-aggressive nature, one that's very hard to fight back against. Sometimes I think posters are at their wits end when they get into these debates with you because it's a lot of no-win scenarios. I credit you on your ability to frustrate the shit out of people. It's no easy task, to be reasonable enough to keep people from completely ignoring you, while still frustrating the shit out of them at the same time. Most posters who are as frustrating as you just get shunned usually, but you have enough other qualities that you get away with it. Scott Campbell obviously does what he does to get under your skin. Usually, that type of post would just get annoying. But to SC's credit, he sees how incredibly frustrating you are to most people and doesn't play by your rules. He just takes it to the same no-win level you already have it at. And when you look at it, people don't get away with doing that to other posters on this forum or anywhere, really. But he does to you, because even though your direct words say you're not asking for a fight, the no-win nature of the conversations you're in say you are. So don't be surprised.

Like I said, I did say some truths, and I'm not sorry for that. At the same time, you're a cool guy and I know Favre matters to you so you won't be seeing me fight you on it, especially as hard as I did here.

You'll stand up for people when they need it. You obviously don't like seeing people hurt. But. . . I don't think you're as good of a guy when you feel someone deserves it, asks for it, or you perceive as a threat. The things you do here, the passive-aggressive attacks, I think you flat out feel a sense of satisfaction when you lay your guilt trips and put your, "we're all Packer fans" stuff. Like we talked about earlier, you haven't brought people together, so using those types of statements serve only as guilt tripping and shutting people up, not actual effective conflict resolution. The results, woodbuck. The results are the reason for the actions. The results of your actions are people leave frustrated and guilt-tripped. The results could just as easily be people leaving feeling more connected. Saying it is not doing it.

Maybe you're pissed off at how hard people are on Favre. Maybe deep down, you know it affects him when people hate him. Maybe, deep down, you want people to pay for doing that to Favre and rather than bringing people together, you're punishing them for hurting Favre (and yourself.)

And Woodbuck, I don't stand on a high horse. I've done it. Probably less and less over the years, but I still do it. And when I'm doing it, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts I don't know I'm doing it. I bring it out here, on you. I'm OK if you do the same to me. I guarantee you I won't like it at first, but I guarantee I'll think about it and change my ways if I'm really pushing someone too.

I did not name call and personal attack here. I talked about some tactics I don't like, that I think present no-win situations and that I don't see as being helpful. I hope you feel I have the right to do that, and I hope you can see that I'm not judging or crucifying you either. Nobodies perfect, you either.

People have to pay for their actions, woodbuck. If someones actions pushes people away (even passive-aggressive ones, like Favre does, that you can't pin down.) People get pushed away for a reason. Favre has to either live with that or learn from it. The hope is, he realizes how much the people he pushed away matter and he learns from it. I think he has a huge ego that gets in his way from having a happy life. This is a learning opportunity for him. It hurts. Matters of the ego do, just like the truth does. But hurt is the part of life that tells us something is wrong, tells us to change-up. Favre has some hurt here, and it's telling him to change something. Don't rescue him. Let him realize something is wrong. And don't leave this forum because I hurt you. Screw that. Some of it was true. Some of it was BS. Own the truth, smack back the rest and move on better for it.

[Scott Campbell]

[woodbuck27]

Woody, I said some truths. It wouldn't have gotten to you if I didn't.

At the same time, I wouldn't want you to leave and a part of me knows I got too contentious in those posts, so I apologize for that part.

But Woodbuck, you have a very elusive, passive-aggressive nature, one that's very hard to fight back against. Sometimes I think posters are at their wits end when they get into these debates with you because it's a lot of no-win scenarios. I credit you on your ability to frustrate the shit out of people. It's no easy task, to be reasonable enough to keep people from completely ignoring you, while still frustrating the shit out of them at the same time. Most posters who are as frustrating as you just get shunned usually, but you have enough other qualities that you get away with it. Scott Campbell obviously does what he does to get under your skin. Usually, that type of post would just get annoying. But to SC's credit, he sees how incredibly frustrating you are to most people and doesn't play by your rules. He just takes it to the same no-win level you already have it at. And when you look at it, people don't get away with doing that to other posters on this forum or anywhere, really. But he does to you, because even though your direct words say you're not asking for a fight, the no-win nature of the conversations you're in say you are. So don't be surprised.

Like I said, I did say some truths, and I'm not sorry for that. At the same time, you're a cool guy and I know Favre matters to you so you won't be seeing me fight you on it, especially as hard as I did here.

You'll stand up for people when they need it. You obviously don't like seeing people hurt. But. . . I don't think you're as good of a guy when you feel someone deserves it, asks for it, or you perceive as a threat. The things you do here, the passive-aggressive attacks, I think you flat out feel a sense of satisfaction when you lay your guilt trips and put your, "we're all Packer fans" stuff. Like we talked about earlier, you haven't brought people together, so using those types of statements serve only as guilt tripping and shutting people up, not actual effective conflict resolution. The results, woodbuck. The results are the reason for the actions. The results of your actions are people leave frustrated and guilt-tripped. The results could just as easily be people leaving feeling more connected. Saying it is not doing it.

Maybe you're pissed off at how hard people are on Favre. Maybe deep down, you know it affects him when people hate him. Maybe, deep down, you want people to pay for doing that to Favre and rather than bringing people together, you're punishing them for hurting Favre (and yourself.)

And Woodbuck, I don't stand on a high horse. I've done it. Probably less and less over the years, but I still do it. And when I'm doing it, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts I don't know I'm doing it. I bring it out here, on you. I'm OK if you do the same to me. I guarantee you I won't like it at first, but I guarantee I'll think about it and change my ways if I'm really pushing someone too.

I did not name call and personal attack here. I talked about some tactics I don't like, that I think present no-win situations and that I don't see as being helpful. I hope you feel I have the right to do that, and I hope you can see that I'm not judging or crucifying you either. Nobodies perfect, you either.

People have to pay for their actions, woodbuck. If someones actions pushes people away (even passive-aggressive ones, like Favre does, that you can't pin down.) People get pushed away for a reason. Favre has to either live with that or learn from it. The hope is, he realizes how much the people he pushed away matter and he learns from it. I think he has a huge ego that gets in his way from having a happy life. This is a learning opportunity for him. It hurts. Matters of the ego do, just like the truth does. But hurt is the part of life that tells us something is wrong, tells us to change-up. Favre has some hurt here, and it's telling him to change something. Don't rescue him. Let him realize something is wrong. And don't leave this forum because I hurt you. Screw that. Some of it was true. Some of it was BS. Own the truth, smack back the rest and move on better for it.

JH:

Scott Campbell never does...never has gotten under my skin. SC isn't well.

All I have ever felt for Scott Campbell is pain for whatever he suffers.

Now this thread is about Brett Favre.

If you have anything positive in regards to Brett Favre and me 'in any terms' and Brett Favre ...fire away. or please...stay on topic.

Somehow discussing Brett Favre and Scott Campbell in the same post is repugnant. Surely you'll truly understand or appreciate me writing that.

I've had Scott Campbell on ignore for awhile now JH. Whenever he gets out of sorts I must do that. I feel too much suffering for 'his pain'.

GO PACK GO !

[Scott Campbell]

I'm always trying to contribute more positives here at Packerrats. It's a constant task and focus of mine.

You want me to quit!?

If so .... FUCK YOU .... JH.

[mraynrand]

I care about Scott Campbell. I IGNORE Scott Campbell.

why did I ever leave this forum? This is quality drama. The real question is when does the watercooler get thrown out the window?

[Freak Out]

Ice caps are melting down....Rand and Campbell are back.

[Freak Out]

Epic stuff. Just epic.

[Upnorth]

This stuff belongs in the Brad Jones thread

[woodbuck27]

Ice caps are melting down....Rand and Campbell are back.

Ohh Jaysus next thing I'll be held responsible for that happening at Packerrats.

The fact of the matter. I'd love to see every former Packerrat return.

After that 'the IGNORE Function' is available. It truly works.

It's a darn good thing it's easy being woodbuck27.