OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[woodbuck27]

This stuff belongs in the Brad Jones thread

Dear Lord NO! Please no!!

We don't need any more of this stuff happening at Packerrats ....OUR Packer HOME.



Lurking and Stalking. The creepy shit.....of creeps.

[woodbuck27]

plenty of players finished their careers with other teams, and were welcomed back, but none had a scorched-earth policy like bf.

Most of that not created in anything Brett Favre; yet mostly:

a) by a media that loves to stir the pot for sales.

b) Packer fans that we're flat out fed up with Brett Favre, 'a long time before' the last game he played at Lambeau Field. Packer fans that wanted to see Aaron Rodgers get the shot he certainly had to have before he left Green Bay.

It got too... like that old song':

'It's now or .... never'.

Simple.....Reality Therapy for all players involved. Simple Reality therapy' for all aging even Superstar Pro Athletes ...sometimes based in the most unique needs to move on. This is exactly 'one of those' rare instances.

Nothing more or less. The complications arrive in the details that got seriously ridiculous on both sides.

A FIRE fights FIRE scenario that before it ended had to involve the NFL Head office to ensure fairness to both sides. In which the Green Bay Packers couldn't possibly entirely force through, even with a very generous alternate plan, of an $20 million$ offer to Brett Favre ... to please 'just' stay retired.

They were knowing and totally ignoring a man and his need 'for Free Will'. That fact or error on behalf of the Green Bay Packers was simply ridiculous or pointless in the most obvious to me....extreme.

If any of you Favre haters can simply land right there you have a solid opportunity to get to where I've been from the start of it all. Otherwise Hate away for all the joy that might allow you. I'm not trying to persuade any of you to do anything even close to my position.

I like my rather unique position and this issue here. I'm proud to set myself where I do. To take 'the high road'.

The reality of this issue. You 'as a bottom line'; have to have 'the good stuff' to get there. To get to where I am.

It's really not about anything Brett Favre. It's really all about you the Packer fan and poster here at Packerrats.

Forgiveness 'of yourself' is a personal choice. I've never been a promoter of the impossible or directing change in anyone. I know I cannot change anyone. I may hope for or remain in faith for change that is recommended for a real positive outcome. I'm wise enough to know... that change is strictly personal. Change is most difficult when such is controlled in any collective environment. Hate actually breeds >>> HATE.

The worst HATE mongers here hate anything that might cause you to join me. It's entirely their agenda to denigrate woodbuck27. They do that 'out of FEAR'. Their agendas are so delicious for their ways.

Hatred >>> Not ever been my cup of tea. Never will be under any threat or circumstance. I'm so very grateful for the instruction I received in my lifetime to not ever regress to that level, of ever going there.

Pick your soup. Mines really ............. sweet.

GO PACKERS !

[MadtownPacker]

Woody - Honestly if this thread gets deleted it will also be because of you too not just others. Let's get back to everything else before there is nothing else please.

[woodbuck27]

Once it was clear the Packers did not want him back, he asked the Packers for his release.

The Packers stalled because they feared he would head right to Minnesota. But eventually, with all the paperwork filed they couldn't put the inevitable off for any longer and he flew north the night of the scrimmage.

After the series of meetings at Lambeau and with Brett at his house the Packers agreed they would try to trade him. So did he ask for his release? Yes, but was it after the Packers told him they had moved on? Yes.

If you check pb. Favre asked for his outright release as soon as it became obvious to him that the Packers we're moving to Aaron Rodgers as the NO. 1 QB.

Favre got to know TT and MM and how they play their game POKER and his life. This wasn't 'Rocket Science' to that country boy. TT and MM aren't difficult to understand.

Brett Fave and Deanna didn't arrive in Green Bay with Favre's agent for dinner at Faver's home there. They all weren't just dieing to dine at Applebee's...again. Have a steak at Brett Favre's steak house if that even existed. Favre was well aware of the bullshit.

It was clearly showdown time. Time for Brett Favre to cut bait with TT and MM. Damn ...it got so stinking wrong... that even today Ted Thompson can't talk about it; and MM isn't far removed from that. The Favre haters want to direct it all to Brett Favre and waffeling and never acknowledge the way that MM acted. The way that TT always acts.

Ted Thompson and MM simply should have been 'men enough' to simply be honest in total regards to an obvious to this Packer fan need. I saw that need building the day that Aaron Rodgers was drafted. I assume then that TT and MM had to realize that same need as I'm sure Aaron Rodgers did.

That need too simple:

To inform Brett Favre soon after the end of that season. That next year or in the 2008 season. They needed to move forward with Aaron Rodgers. Nope.... they had to play out their silly ass'd game. Anyone who believed after his outstanding 2007 season that Favre was done. Was either naïve or seriously not paying attention to the man that Brett Favre is then and will remain.

Do you posters here really believe that TT and MM are that naïve? If you do then I'll inform you that... 'if your right' ? The Green Bay Packers are both over the top too lucky and at the same time given any moderation of luck .... in seriously poor shape.

The fact is that any mention of the word bullshit must be applied clearly to Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy in terms of the Brett Favre end in Green Bay. These men and I'll be very polite... handled Brett Favre very clumsily.

Ohh yea...this one. Brett Favre and today and living in utter misery.

Nope! Wrong again I certainly expect. By wishing or observing this as a TRUTH does not discount the sudden bad fortune that can overtake us all. That lessened as a fact in our lives by all attempts to live decently and still get a blast out of it.

I love every day 'of LIFE'. Life amazes me as much as the differences in people. I handle most of that with an excellent sense of the haha. That doesn't ever mean that I cannot be disposed to the darkness that resides in some people (even) posters that live part of their lives here.

I'm an astute man. I'm also never ' a coward'.

Brett Favre's Life today:

The idea that he's severely depressed about the way he was disrespected in Green Bay is just more delusion. Delusion with very possibly little real compassion. Just more bunk-negative hype. Poor Brett Favre hate mongering!? Delusion after delusion...falsification...to outright lies...certain and common disrespect among hate mongers.

That exists in any society that doesn't have men like me to stand strong against it.

Men like me that doesn't understand the prudence in such a stance to protect the best that society deserves.

Is Brett Favre depressed and otherwise in some severe state of depression or melancholy.

I don't think so. Brett Favre 'I hope', has a pretty decent life. Following any of that through the media certainly projects that as a fact. Brett Favre is doing very well out of the NFL and contributing at the High School level; his football expertise, as the humble man he has been and continues to be.

All that considering his startling or staggering NFL Iconic status is amazing to me. All that he is today 'only' lends more to his obvious LEGENDARY Status. All that will ensure that his number will be retired and he will be proudly inducted into the Green bay Packer HOF when the timing is 'just right' for Brett Favre.

I really hope that gets done before his first ballot induction into the NFL HOF.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

Woody - Honestly if this thread gets deleted it will also be because of you too not just others. Let's get back to everything else before there is nothing else please.

My stance and points have been well presented. I remained true to me and the good stuff I believe in.

That has to be hard for some here to take. That in turn gets (maybe) dumped in your lap.

Whenever I know I'm correct I don't need to prove it with as much effort as I do (have done) here.

Why can't the Favre haters simply ignore this thread? Why do they have to have it all their way?

Those are questions that 'only' you must try your best to deal with. I'm truly sympathetic for that Mad.

Otherwise and total respect for you. Sure.... Mad I understand.

It's not fun for me to have to defend Brett Favre or burn down their towers of utter senseless garbage.

Right now I'm enjoying something far better.

Carol King and James Taylor perform at the special invitation by Barack and Michelle Obama at the Whitehouse.

So nice.

GO PACKERS !

[Carolina_Packer]

If you check pb. Favre asked for his outright release as soon as it became obvious to him that the Packers we're moving to Aaron Rodgers as the NO. 1 QB.

What was reported was that the Packers kept checking with him at various times during the off-season to see if he wanted to come back, and by all accounts, he kept saying he was retired. Did you expect the Packers to just give him his outright release as a going away gift without any compensation? Who does that with a player of Favre's value?

Favre got to know TT and MM and how they play their game POKER and his life. This wasn't 'Rocket Science' to that country boy. TT and MM aren't difficult to understand.

Not really sure what you mean by this statement. There was no gun to Brett's head when he decided to retire. If you can prove he was forced out, I'd like to know how. People who want to keep playing do not retire. I know of one player who retired, and then walked back in during training camp thinking he might get his job back, likely realizing he wouldn't, so he could get his freedom. If he got upset that the Packers didn't grant his outright release, then he didn't learn much about the business side of football.

Brett Fave and Deanna didn't arrive in Green Bay with Favre's agent for dinner at Faver's home there. They all weren't just dieing to dine at Applebee's...again. Have a steak at Brett Favre's steak house if that even existed. Favre was well aware of the bullshit.

What bullshit? That he retired? That he kept telling the Packers during the offseason before '08 that he was sure he was retired? That he came back when he knew it was not likely he would get his starter job back? Is that the bullshit you speak of?

It was clearly showdown time. Time for Brett Favre to cut bait with TT and MM. Damn ...it got so stinking wrong... that even today Ted Thompson can't talk about it; and MM isn't far removed from that. The Favre haters want to direct it all to Brett Favre and waffeling and never acknowledge the way that MM acted. The way that TT always acts.

Ted Thompson and MM simply should have been 'men enough' to simply be honest in total regards to an obvious to this Packer fan need. I saw that need building the day that Aaron Rodgers was drafted. I assume then that TT and MM had to realize that same need as I'm sure Aaron Rodgers did.

It was showdown time because of the way one person handled his business. Again, he decided to retire and stay away until he likely knew the Packers would not give him his job back, unless he really thought they would, in which case, he miscalculated. That was a poor way to handle his business. I don't think he wanted to be in Green Bay anymore, but didn't want to look like the bad guy.

That need too simple:

To inform Brett Favre soon after the end of that season. That next year or in the 2008 season. They needed to move forward with Aaron Rodgers. Nope.... they had to play out their silly ass'd game. Anyone who believed after his outstanding 2007 season that Favre was done. Was either naïve or seriously not paying attention to the man that Brett Favre is then and will remain.

Who retired? Brett did. Was there a gun to his head? The man retired and then changed his mind, but from my previous post, I think he handled it this way to get out of Green Bay. 1. Retire, but don't mean it. 2. Wait until worst possible time to want to come back 3. Don't get your wish to get released, so you get traded. I think based on how he handled the situation, he got what he deserved.

I don't think anyone was displeased with Favre's play in 2007.

No

Do you posters here really believe that TT and MM are that naïve? If you do then I'll inform you that... 'if your right' ? The Green Bay Packers are both over the top too lucky and at the same time given any moderation of luck .... in seriously poor shape.

The fact is that any mention of the word bullshit must be applied clearly to Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy in terms of the Brett Favre end in Green Bay. These men and I'll be very polite... handled Brett Favre very clumsily.

Oh? Did they force him to retire? If so, how? He got up on the podium and retired, which was his right to do. If he didn't mean it, he shouldn't have done it. It sounds like Green Bay would have had him back in 2008, had he not retired that March. Favre was the clumsy one, but I think the clumsiness was calculated to come at a time that would Green Bay to choose between him and Rodgers, knowing at the time he came back that they would likely have moved on, unless he thought he could just walk right back in and get his job back, which would have been a miscalculation. Again, I don't think he was expecting that, which is why he came back when he did. Calculated clumsiness; mission accomplished.

Ohh yea...this one. Brett Favre and today and living in utter misery.

Nope! Wrong again I certainly expect. By wishing or observing this as a TRUTH does not discount the sudden bad fortune that can overtake us all. That lessened as a fact in our lives by all attempts to live decently and still get a blast out of it.

I love every day 'of LIFE'. Life amazes me as much as the differences in people. I handle most of that with an excellent sense of the haha. That doesn't ever mean that I cannot be disposed to the darkness that resides in some people (even) posters that live part of their lives here.

I'm an astute man. I'm also never ' a coward'.

Don't strain your arm patting yourself on the back!

Brett Favre's Life today:

The idea that he's severely depressed about the way he was disrespected in Green Bay is just more delusion. Delusion with very possibly little real compassion. Just more bunk-negative hype. Poor Brett Favre hate mongering!? Delusion after delusion...falsification...to outright lies...certain and common disrespect among hate mongers.

That exists in any society that doesn't have men like me to stand strong against it.

Men like me that doesn't understand the prudence in such a stance to protect the best that society deserves.

Is Brett Favre depressed and otherwise in some severe state of depression or melancholy.

Just because any of us admire someone because they were a great or legendary football player for our favorite team, doesn't mean we are always going to agree with the way they handle their business. He's human, he has flaws like any of us. What separates him is his athletic ability, not his humanity or ability to be flawed or make mistakes, so even if you admire what he did as a Packer, it's OK to think he played his part in the separation from the Packers. I refuse to believe it was just big, bad management running poor, innocent Favre out of town. That's just not the truth. Brett doesn't deserve that much homerism. Nobody does.

I don't think so. Brett Favre 'I hope', has a pretty decent life. Following any of that through the media certainly projects that as a fact. Brett Favre is doing very well out of the NFL and contributing at the High School level; his football expertise, as the humble man he has been and continues to be.

All that considering his startling or staggering NFL Iconic status is amazing to me. All that he is today 'only' lends more to his obvious LEGENDARY Status. All that will ensure that his number will be retired and he will be proudly inducted into the Green bay Packer HOF when the timing is 'just right' for Brett Favre.

I really hope that gets done before his first ballot induction into the NFL HOF.

Couldn't agree more, Woody. He was a great Packer. He was exciting to follow and made it fun to watch the team. He had a fun personality. Like most older players, it's probably hard to let go and retire, or know when it's the right time to go. I think Green Bay wanted him after 2007, but I don't know if he wanted Green Bay, and I don't think he ever wanted to look like the "bad guy". He had a right to retire, and he had a right to not decide his future until training camp. The Packers had the right to move on at some point so they could make their plans for the upcoming season. I give the Packer organization credit for making and sticking to a plan and not being held up, or getting too sentimental about what an aging players plans are. They were right to be ready, knowing that Bret had the right to retire and had indicated he might prior to March 2008. If they never draft a successor to Favre, and just ride it out to the bitter end out of respect to Brett, then everyone kills the front office for not planning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I give them credit for keeping the longer-term in mind, which is why the Packers transitioned away from Brett without having the tremendous drop-off that some teams have after a legendary QB leaves.

I hope Favre and the Packers organization can get together on some kind of celebration of his career in Green Bay and retirement of his number. He deserves the honor for what he did throughout the time he played for Green Bay. It's hard to ignore his Packer exit, but it's way more fun to think of his overall career as a Packer.

GO PACK GO !

See comments in bold above.

[George Cumby]

Brett Favre's Life today:

Lots of Internet porn.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Here's Brett's retirement transcript from when he retired while with the Packers. I don't see any mention that TT or MM forced him out. Seems he said that he simply couldn't commit to the rigors of the game any longer.

http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articl...ranscript.html

[woodbuck27]

See comments in bold above.

I've read and respect your comments. You handle yourself extremely well.

Well done Carolina_Packer.

PLEASE... understand that I'm not going to respond to your points that are very well taken. You have certain skills that I totally respect. I've worked with strong negotiators and your strong. I appreciate your candor and style here. Your cool and a solid contributor to Packerrats.

For personal reasons I'm electing now to simply stop. That 'dead horse' is beaten to death Packer fan. The natives are getting restless and I must respect that for all concerned here. My 'good fight' is now over, in the interest of prudence and respect.

Brett Favre will receive his 'just' rewards.

I'm simply awaiting the retiring of Brett Favre's number and to his induction into the Green Bay Packers HOF; with extreme pride as a loyal Packer fan to him. I as much know for the Green bay Packer Organization that 'exact plan and move' is a classy and well deserved action.

I understand how very cautious Brett Favre must be in agreeing to accept this honor. There are still many Packer fans that feel justified to harm/hurt Brett Favre. Whatever... I care for Brett Favre.

On that day I will cheer Favre with tears in my eyes and such Green Bay Packer pride in my heart.

As a terrific Green Bay Packer QB, leader, Packer teammate with outstanding character and attitude towords winning; and giving his all to his beloved Green Bay Packers and Packer fans.

Shame on any Packer fan that may judge him negatively on his day at Lambeau Field.

Brett Favre.... Simply 'the very best during his time in the Green and GOLD.

In my books, 'arguably' the very best Packer QB of all time; and an outstanding NFL QB (TOP TEN ALL TIME) and model 'football player' as a Green Bay Packer.

Nobody in the NFL 'of his time' was as exciting to watch. That's hands down ... a pure TRUTH.

Brett Favre wire to wire in the regular season. Simply 'THE BEST' of his time.

GO PACKERS GO !

[woodbuck27]

Here's Brett's retirement transcript from when he retired while with the Packers. I don't see any mention that TT or MM forced him out. Seems he said that he simply couldn't commit to the rigors of the game any longer.

http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articl...ranscript.html

Ok ...one more time:

Brett Favre wasn't forced out of Green Bay.

It was simply time for the Green Bay Packers to turn their attention to the future and as their NO. 1 QB...Aaron Rodgers. Anything else might have turned out as disastrous and frankly a foolish move in terms directly related to Aaron Rodgers and respect for that man.

Is there any poster (s) here at Packerrats that believe he was forced out of Green Bay?

The pressure on Favre was simply to retire/stay retired.

Of course ...that didn't go well.

GO PACK GO!

[Carolina_Packer]

Ok ...one more time:

Brett Favre wasn't forced out of Green Bay.

It was simply time for the Green Bay Packers to turn their attention to the future and as their NO. 1 QB...Aaron Rodgers. Anything else might have turned out as disastrous and frankly a foolish move in terms directly related to Aaron Rodgers and respect for that man.

Is there any poster (s) here at Packerrats that believe he was forced out of Green Bay?

The pressure on Favre was simply to retire/stay retired.

Of course ...that didn't go well.

GO PACK GO!

Well stated. No, never an easy exit for a star. Hard to plan to be succeeded by the next guy, but if you give the team a reason to replace you (retirement and delaying decision to come back until July), don't be surprised that you are not back as the starter automatically. Then, it's nothing to do with your play on the field, but how you handle your business off the field, and the team's need to get ready for the next season and beyond.

His Green Bay exit does not make me forget what a great player he was, and I hope they can mend fences and get together on what is a well-deserved celebration of his career in a public ceremony at Lambeau. I don't know how the fans would react on that day, but hopefully with class and remembering all that he gave the fans during his time in Green Bay, regardless of how it ended or who he ended up playing for.

[ThunderDan]

Interesting quote from the Favre presser.

Favre: "I think last year and the year before I was tired and it took awhile but I came back. Something told me this time not to come back. It took awhile once again. Once again, I wondered if it was the right decision. But I think in my situation, and I had this conversation with Mike and Ted, that it's a unique situation in that at 17 years I had one of the better years in my career, the team had a great year, everything seems to be going great, the team wants me back, I still can play, for the most part everyone would think I would be back, would want me back. That's a unique situation going into an 18th season. There's no guarantees next year, personally and as a team, and I'm well aware of that. It's a tough business and last year and the year before I questioned whether or not I should come back because I didn't play at a high enough level. Other people questioned that. I really didn't question my commitment. I just wondered, 'Could I not play anymore?' I know I can play. But this year, and this is not the first year but it really to me and Deanna was more noticeable, the stress part of it. It's demanding. It always has been, but I think as I've gotten older I'm much more aware of that. I'm much more aware of how hard it is to win in this league and to play at a high level. I'm not up to the challenge anymore. I can play, but I'm not up to the challenge. You can't just show up and play for three hours on Sunday. If you could, there'd be a lot more people doing it and they'd be doing it for a lot longer. I have way too much pride, I expect a lot out of myself, and if I cannot do those things 100 percent, then I can't play."

From BF's own words in March MM & TT want him back as the starting QB in 2008.

[woodbuck27]

Well stated. No, never an easy exit for a star. Hard to plan to be succeeded by the next guy, but if you give the team a reason to replace you (retirement and delaying decision to come back until July), don't be surprised that you are not back as the starter automatically. Then, it's nothing to do with your play on the field, but how you handle your business off the field, and the team's need to get ready for the next season and beyond.

His Green Bay exit does not make me forget what a great player he was, and I hope they can mend fences and get together on what is a well-deserved celebration of his career in a public ceremony at Lambeau. I don't know how the fans would react on that day, but hopefully with class and remembering all that he gave the fans during his time in Green Bay, regardless of how it ended or who he ended up playing for.

Carolina_Packer:

I truly believe (not just hope) that that day will be a truly great day in Green Bay.

The cheers will be loud....very loud for 'the Green Bay Packer Legend'. We won't likely see another like him.

The reason I believe that is for all that MAN gave of himself in Green Bay. Classless objector positions certainly won't dominate 'Brett Favre's Appreciation Day' in Green Bay. The soon to come day when his number four is retired and he's proudly inducted into the Green Bay Packers Hall Of Fame, where he so very richly deserves to be. Such imaginations are pure nonsense. I truly believe that love defeats HATRED.

The fans reaction to his being honored in Green Bay. I believe that has to be a small concern, for Brett Favre and his family and closest friends. I do believe that Favre reads Packer forum reactions. Brett Favre loves football and what people and his fans thinks affects him. Brett Favre 'only' tested himself against .... could he give his best. Brett Favre is a very special man. I've never seen such an emotional Pro Star athlete, that desired to give so much to his fans. He got right there as a Green Bay Packer and football player of outstanding quality.

No QB in the NFL was tested more and survived to win more in his time as a Green bay Packer. Therein lies and survives for all time...THE LEGEND. That's an irrefutable fact of TRUTH. It's unlikely that any football player ever played with more heart than Brett Favre. We'll not likely see anyone ever again with the greatness of Brett Favre.

I fear...not if as Packer fans, we don't get collectively past hatred.

I hope that Brett Favre reads this post and my stances on this thread.

I hope that Brett Favre clearly knows that he's going down in the books and memories of football people:

As the the outstanding football player he will remain for all time. I hope that my support for him against all the derisions he reads on Packer forms. Gives him hope in the realistic outcome; that CLASS always defeats classless.

LOVE and FORGIVNESS ALWAYS DEFEATS hatred.

I love you Brett Favre... it's going to be very proper and very good man.

I'll be cheering you with all my power and might.

Why do I stand with such passion!?

As a solidly concerned Green Bay Packer fan. I'm positive that a stance such as mine is more than good; more than right. It's imperative for the future of the team I love. The Green Bay Packers.

I stand with passion because I'm a member of Packerrats where strong negative opinion exists against a great Green Bay Packer player. If I'm defeated in my position the haters win another battle. So I fight or stand in strong. I cannot be more or less than my Fathers son.

My stance is about the positive and best future of the Green Bay Packers NOT some senseless and selfish fan (s) that doesn't/don't know any better than to smeer Brett Favre... to hate Brett Favre. That doesn't realize that his/her extreme negative ways will possibly bring down the future of the Green Bay Packer Organization, in terms of 'deserving to win'. In terms of the TRUTH of the LAWS Of KARMA.

It's about karma Packerrats. Never challenge or oppose good KARMA with hateful and negative/wrongful positions.

Forgiving Brett Favre is a very good thing. Maybe? ... accept Brett Favre for the awesome Green Bay Packer; he has always tried so hard and proved to be. The BEST winner in his time in Green Bay. That's what he certainly helped give Y'all. Appreciate 'just' that as the smartest move you'll make.

GO GREEN BAY PACKER FANS >>> GO FOR POSITIVE KARMA !

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Carolina_Packer:

I truly believe (not just hope) that that day will be a truly great day in Green Bay.

The cheers will be loud....very loud for 'the Green Bay Packer Legend'. We won't likely see another like him.

The reason I believe that is for all that MAN gave of himself in Green Bay. Classless objector positions certainly won't dominate 'Brett Favre's Appreciation Day' in Green Bay. The soon to come day when his number four is retired and he's proudly inducted into the Green bay Packers Hall Of Fame where he so very richly deserves to be. Such imaginations are pure nonsense. I truly believe that love defeats HATRED.

The fans reaction to his being honored in Green Bay. I believe that has to be a small concern for Brett Favre and his family and closest friends. I do believe that Favre reads Packer forum reactions. Brett Favre loves football and what people and his fans thinks affects him. Brett Favre 'only' tested himself against .... could he give his best. Brett Favre is a very special man. I've never seen such an emotional Pro Star athlete, that desired to give so much to his fans and he got right there as a Green Bay Packer. No QB in the NFL was tested more and survived to win more in his time as a Green bay Packer. Therein lies and survives for all time...THEv LEGEND. That's an irrefutable fact of TRUTH. It's unlikely that any football player ever played with more heart than Brett Favre. We'll not likely see anyone ever again with the greatness of Brett Favre.

Certainly not if as Packer fans we don't get collectively past hatred.

I hope that Brett Favre reads this post and my stances on this thread.

I hope that Brett Favre clearly knows that he's going down in the books and memories of football people:

As the the outstanding football player he will remain for all time. I hope that my support for him against all the derisions he reads on Packer forms. Gives him hope in the realistic outcome that CLASS always defeats classless.

LOVE and FORGIVNESS ALWAYS DEFEATS HATRED.

I love you Brett Favre....it's going to be very proper and very good man.

I will be cheering you with all my power and might.

Why do I stand with such passion!? As a solid Green Bay Packer fan I'm positive that a stance such as mine is good.

My stance is about the positive and best future of the Green Bay Packers NOT some senseless and selfish fan that don't know any better than to smeer Brett Favre to hate Brett Favre. That don't realize that his/her extreme negative ways will bring down the future of the Green Bay Packer Organization in terms of 'deserving to win'.

It's about karma Packerrats. Never challenge or oppose good KARMA with hateful and negative positions.

Forgiving Brett Favre is a very good thing. Maybe? ... accept Brett Favre for the awesome Green Bay Packer he has always tried so hard and proved to be to be 'just that'. The BEST winner in his time in Green Bay. That's what he certainly helped give y'all. Appreciate 'just' that as the smartest move you'll make.

GO GREEN BAY PACKER FANS >>> GO FOR POSITIVE KARMA !

“we won’t see another like him”

- True we will not see another player exactly like him. But as good as him or better? Check back with me in about five years.


“I hope that Brett Favre reads this post and my stances on this thread.”

- He's not.


“I love you Brett Favre...”

- Thats just weird.


”As the the outstanding football player he will remain for all time. I hope that my support for him against all the derisions he reads on Packer forms. Gives him hope in the realistic outcome that CLASS always defeats classless.”

-So you have class if you support Brett Favre blindly and you don’t have class otherwise. Interesting.

[woodbuck27]

“we won’t see another like him”

- True we will not see another player exactly like him. But as good as him or better? Check back with me in about five years.


“I hope that Brett Favre reads this post and my stances on this thread.”

- He's not.


“I love you Brett Favre...”

- Thats just weird.


”As the the outstanding football player he will remain for all time. I hope that my support for him against all the derisions he reads on Packer forms. Gives him hope in the realistic outcome that CLASS always defeats classless.”

-So you have class if you support Brett Favre blindly and you don’t have class otherwise. Interesting.

You pick 'your pill' >>> I'll pick mine.

GO PACKERS !