OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[pbmax]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/brett-favres-no-4-wont-be-retired-this-season-b99308648z1-266649911.html

Retirement ceremony will not happen this year as the people involved are afraid of booing. Put aside the question of how much people will boo, this cannot be the first time MurphCo and FavreInc thought of this if they were discussing dates last year. Which might mean all the previous blather about trying to setup a date was VERY VERY premature.

They apparently had not even discussed what kind of reception might occur. Which means Murphy has all the public relation sense of a skunk, to publicly raise the possibility of the event happening but not having thought of anything else other than the appropriate date.

Now about the booing. Tom Oates at the State Journal Tweeted that Packer fans should be ashamed of themselves that MurphCo need be afraid of them. This is trolling of the highest order as the people still reading Oates in the paper and caring about his opinion are PRECISELY the hard-bitten fans that didn't want Favre to go in the first place and were mad when he ended up in Minnesota rooting for other teams to make the playoffs. Oates is also an idiot for thinking people shouldn't feel free to boo.

I agree with Tanier on this:

Michael Tanier @MikeTanier · 9h
If #Eagles fans did not boo @donovanjmcnabb 's return, #Packers fans sure as hell won't boo Favre.

There will be a few boos. They will then be drowned out in a sea of cheers. Running the highlight reel alone will remind people how the accomplishments compare to the disappointment over his leaving.

Which takes me back to MurphCo. Unless he is running some kind of double switch, make fans beg for a retirement ceremony and hoping they bully the still-mad-at-Favre crowd into silence, he is utterly useless.

All Favre needed to do to soften the reception was make an appearance this spring or summer. Go to the Badgers Sweet Sixteen or Final Four games with Rodgers. Attend the WI Sports Awards. Appear at McCarthy's fund raiser for the AmFam Children's Hospital. Attend Jordy's softball game or the MACC Fund Night With Aaron Rodgers. Go to one of the four Golf Outings with Packers or Badgers in attendance or make an appearance with Bart Starr to open a Piggly Wiggly. A couple of self-deprecating jokes later, everyone remembers the goofy good guy. Don't bother to explain yourself.

Problem solved. Fans primed to be happy. Run the highlight reel (seriously, that reel could run for 2 and a half hours) and get prepared to be deafened. If Brett cannot be roused to do that small step, then why are we still discussing this?

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...266649911.html


All Favre needed to do to soften the reception was make an appearance this spring or summer. Go to the Badgers Sweet Sixteen or Final Four games with Rodgers. Attend the WI Sports Awards. Appear at McCarthy's fund raiser for the AmFam Children's Hospital. Attend Jordy's softball game or the MACC Fund Night With Aaron Rodgers. Go to one of the four Golf Outings with Packers or Badgers in attendance or make an appearance with Bart Starr to open a Piggly Wiggly. A couple of self-deprecating jokes later, everyone remembers the goofy good guy. Don't bother to explain yourself.

Problem solved. Fans primed to be happy. Run the highlight reel (seriously, that reel could run for 2 and a half hours) and get prepared to be deafened. If Brett cannot be roused to do that small step, then why are we still discussing this?

I agree with this. Favre is hanging out in Mississippi waiting for people in Green Bay to like him again. He needs to come to Green Bay and remind people why he was such an overwhelmingly popular figure. The last memories people have of Favre aren't good ones. He needs to be proactive in changing that.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Because a month can't go by without bumping this thread.

That alone is reason enough to retire the number and get it over with.

[Joemailman]

Because a month can't go by without bumping this thread.

That alone is reason enough to retire the number and get it over with.

You don't think retiring Favre's number will retire this thread, do you?

[Just Jeff]

The last memories people have of Favre aren't good ones.

If that's your take on it, the "people" you are referring to are pretty petty and ignorant. I don't know any of those people, except the few that post here.

[Patler]

I think the ceremony will happen whenever Favre is ready for the ceremony to happen. He isn't yet, so it won't.

[pbmax]

If that's your take on it, the "people" you are referring to are pretty petty and ignorant. I don't know any of those people, except the few that post here.

I can introduce you to others if you would like.

[pbmax]

I think the ceremony will happen whenever Favre is ready for the ceremony to happen. He isn't yet, so it won't.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

Murphy should have taken more notes from Thompson and Harlan and fewer from Sherm.

[Just Jeff]

I can introduce you to others if you would like.

I'm married. Not looking to be introduced to any more petty and ignorant people.

[Patler]

The last memories people have of Favre aren't good ones.

My last (football) memory of Favre is a very, very good one.
Dressed in purple, throwing another end-of-playoff-game interception.
Very pleasing, indeed!

[Patler]

If that's your take on it, the "people" you are referring to are pretty petty and ignorant. I don't know any of those people, except the few that post here.

It is "petty and ignorant" just because they do not feel about it the same way that you do? ReallY?

[Just Jeff]

It is "petty and ignorant" just because they do not feel about it the same way that you do? ReallY?

No its petty for the reasons others have stated. Both sides made a business decision. That's why the NFL is a business. No one cares about who's feelings got hurt by their personal decisions. BTW the Beatles broke up. I hate Yoko and will boo her at her Rock and Roll HOF induction.

Its ignorant because with Favre we had ONE losing season. Before Favre, we had ONE winning season for something like the prior 16 years.

[Patler]

No its petty for the reasons others have stated. Both sides made a business decision. That's why the NFL is a business. No one cares about who's feelings got hurt by their personal decisions. BTW the Beatles broke up. I hate Yoko and will boo her at her Rock and Roll HOF induction.

Its ignorant because with Favre we had ONE losing season. Before Favre, we had ONE winning season for something like the prior 16 years.

I suspect for those who are still offended by the affair it goes well-beyond the business decisions involved. I suspect they remain offended by some of the following and other acts that occurred after the break-up:

- Favre working behind the scenes against the Packers (e.g. advising the Lions & others).
- Favre's other comments to players & others long after the separation (even years).
- Favre exhibiting a moral compass as a 40 year old more like that of an 18 year old.
- Favre continuing his abandonment of the fans even after his actual retirement.
- Favre's cold attitude toward Rodgers, a fan favorite who is not to blame for anything.
- Favre's continued tepid attitude toward all things Packers, even the fans who still support him.

For some there are plenty of reasons to dislike Favre the individual, who showed and continues to show himself to be much different than the image he portrayed as a Packer. These have nothing to do with the business decisions involved, and none are obviated by the success he had on the field as a Packer. Some are disappointed because they can never have the same pride in #4 that they once did, because (for them) he is too far from the man they thought he was.

If they want to remain offended, so be it. I see those people as no more wrong in their feelings than others who deify Favre in spite of it all.

[pbmax]

I'm married. Not looking to be introduced to any more petty and ignorant people.

So your spouse satisfied the quota?

[woodbuck27]

I suspect for those who are still offended by the affair it goes well-beyond the business decisions involved. I suspect they remain offended by some of the following and other acts that occurred after the break-up:

- Favre working behind the scenes against the Packers (e.g. advising the Lions & others).
- Favre's other comments to players & others long after the separation (even years).
- Favre exhibiting a moral compass as a 40 year old more like that of an 18 year old.
- Favre continuing his abandonment of the fans even after his actual retirement.
- Favre's cold attitude toward Rodgers, a fan favorite who is not to blame for anything.
- Favre's continued tepid attitude toward all things Packers, even the fans who still support him.

For some there are plenty of reasons to dislike Favre the individual, who showed and continues to show himself to be much different than the image he portrayed as a Packer. These have nothing to do with the business decisions involved, and none are obviated by the success he had on the field as a Packer. Some are disappointed because they can never have the same pride in #4 that they once did, because (for them) he is too far from the man they thought he was.

If they want to remain offended, so be it. I see those people as no more wrong in their feelings than others who deify Favre in spite of it all.

Why any Packer fan especially one as astute as you Patler would allow all that to set you on "offend" amazes me when this is really all about the Pro Sporting World where almost anything goes. Brett Favre is simply a mere human being who made obvious mistakes and at the same time gave so much to Packer Nation that was far more positive.

End of story.

woodbuck27 ..... a devout Brett Favre supporter and damn proud to admit that as a very long standing Green Bay Packer fan of 55 years plus and counting.