Wynn Cut, Harrell on Pup List

[The Gunshooter]

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/08/25/2/

[LL2]

I'm starting to get nervous about this season and it has nothing to do with Arod starting his first season. It has to do with all the injured and banged up players on the OL and DL.

[mmmdk]

Wynn is talented but backfield is solid in Green Bay; good call by Packers. Harrell is gonna be MIA all season - gut feeling.

[oregonpackfan]

Francies was expected. Wynn was the casualty of a solid backfield and a questionable work ethic.

I still shake my head in disgust re: Justin Harrell. What a waste of a #1 draft pick.

[retailguy]

Francies was expected. Wynn was the casualty of a solid backfield and a questionable work ethic.

I still shake my head in disgust re: Justin Harrell. What a waste of a #1 draft pick.

Maybe Harrell thinks he a WR and won't mature until the 3rd season?

While he's starting to look like a bust, it's probably too soon to start vocalizing it yet. What I'm curious about is the Williams trade. There were already signs that Harrell was not fulfilling expectations, yet we traded the guy anyhow.

While Williams had his faults, I do think that he was worth keeping around on the franchise tag for another year. I kind of agree with those who say his contract with Cleveland is too rich, but the tag for a year would've been a fairly good deal for Green Bay. I'd certainly feel better about our DL right now, and suspect that most others would as well.

[Merlin]

I was a little surprised by Wynn being let go this soon although we are fairly deep at running back so we knew someone had to go and probably one or two more before it's all said and done. Francis again plays at a position we are deep at and there are clearly more talented guys in front of him. Justin Harrell, no surprise that he now can't play until week 7 if at all. If this were Cledius Hunt everyone would be calling for him to be cut, but for whatever reason everyone still has high hopes that Harrell can contribute. Personally I think the guy is a bust primarily becaue he hasn't been healthy since his Junior year at college (and I don't think he played every game that year, I could be wrong). At the very least he for all intents and purposes didn't play his senior year, barely played last year, and probably won't play this year. That's 3 seasons of football and you don't get better when you don't play. We need to get him healthy, on the roster, then cut him before we get stuck with the injury payments...

[Badgerinmaine]

Lumpkin's strong performance and Wynn's inability to stay healthy made that move pretty much inevitable--but I'll bet someone else gives Wynn a look.

[Lurker64]

I agree that it's too early to call Harrell a bust, if he comes on next year and plays like a pro bowler all will be forgiven. Still, I'm increasingly convinced that the guy is an idiot.

About the Corey Williams trade, I don't know if having him around would really make that big a difference. Corey Williams was valuable as an inside pass rusher, but he was an average to mediocre run-stopper. In terms of stopping the run, he was about the equal of Cole, though Cole was slightly more consistent. I don't think the "resign Cole" bloc was quite so vocal this offseason. Corey Williams is an ideal 3-4 DE, and a pass rushing DT in the 4-3 but what we really need now is guys who will stop the run, and that's not Williams. The thing that bugs me most about the Williams trade is not that we traded him, and not what we got for him, but that we wasted that pick.

[cpk1994]

I was a little surprised by Wynn being let go this soon although we are fairly deep at running back so we knew someone had to go and probably one or two more before it's all said and done. Francis again plays at a position we are deep at and there are clearly more talented guys in front of him. Justin Harrell, no surprise that he now can't play until week 7 if at all. If this were Cledius Hunt everyone would be calling for him to be cut, but for whatever reason everyone still has high hopes that Harrell can contribute. Personally I think the guy is a bust primarily becaue he hasn't been healthy since his Junior year at college (and I don't think he played every game that year, I could be wrong). At the very least he for all intents and purposes didn't play his senior year, barely played last year, and probably won't play this year. That's 3 seasons of football and you don't get better when you don't play. We need to get him healthy, on the roster, then cut him before we get stuck with the injury payments...

Comparing Cleditus Hunt to Justin Harrel is plain idotic. This is only Harrel's second year. Thats why people are stilling cutting him a little slack. Hunt, you seem tyo forget, had been in the league several seasons and was given a fat contract. He then proceded to stink up the joint. People wanted Hunt gone becuase he wasn't coming close to the prduction expected from the contract given him. Harrel is still basically a rookie.If yu can't see that is why some people still have hope for Harrell, then you truely are blind.

[HarveyWallbangers]

While Williams had his faults, I do think that he was worth keeping around on the franchise tag for another year. I kind of agree with those who say his contract with Cleveland is too rich, but the tag for a year would've been a fairly good deal for Green Bay. I'd certainly feel better about our DL right now, and suspect that most others would as well.

Hindsight is 20/20. There weren't many people, not even Bretsky, who didn't like the trade at the time.

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=11454

[Guiness]

SHOCKED at the Wynn cut. Not.
That writing was so clear on the wall is was probably written in neon.

The Williams trade is tough to judge. A 2nd rounder was probably as good as they were going to get for him if they HAD to trade him, so TT got what value he could. I would also have preferred to see him play under the franchise tag, but he was very unhappy with that, and who knows how well he would've performed. Would he have sulked, or sucked it up and played like a pro? They must've thought he'd do the former, or they would have kept him.

[Tarlam!]

The thing that bugs me most about the Williams trade is not that we traded him, and not what we got for him, but that we wasted that pick.

OK, I'll play.

We got Brohm with the pick. Brohm, at least on draft day, was a "steal" in the second. Why was that a waste?

[Lurker64]

The thing that bugs me most about the Williams trade is not that we traded him, and not what we got for him, but that we wasted that pick.

OK, I'll play.

We got Brohm with the pick. Brohm, at least on draft day, was a "steal" in the second. Why was that a waste?

Well, Brohm was a "steal" because he was graded more highly on the boards of "experts", but Brian Brohm is a player I never liked in college and was never impressed by. So far he's entirely lived down to my expectations, and not only that he has a low ceiling. If he turns out to be great, that's wonderful, but there's a reason that he got passed 55 times in the draft.

We could have used that pick in a number of better ways.

[mmmdk]

The thing that bugs me most about the Williams trade is not that we traded him, and not what we got for him, but that we wasted that pick.

OK, I'll play.

We got Brohm with the pick. Brohm, at least on draft day, was a "steal" in the second. Why was that a waste?

Well, Brohm was a "steal" because he was graded more highly on the boards of "experts", but Brian Brohm is a player I never liked in college and was never impressed by. So far he's entirely lived down to my expectations, and not only that he has a low ceiling. If he turns out to be great, that's wonderful, but there's a reason that he got passed 55 times in the draft.

We could have used that pick in a number of better ways.

I suspect Lord Favros retiring had quite a bit to do with the Brohm pick. Thank you M:e:d:i:a:Q:U:E:E:N

[Bretsky]

While Williams had his faults, I do think that he was worth keeping around on the franchise tag for another year. I kind of agree with those who say his contract with Cleveland is too rich, but the tag for a year would've been a fairly good deal for Green Bay. I'd certainly feel better about our DL right now, and suspect that most others would as well.

Hindsight is 20/20. There weren't many people, not even Bretsky, who didn't like the trade at the time.

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=11454

Now had I known we were going to draft a backup QB with that pick....