6-10 ............. Who is to blame?

[PackerBlues]

The Packers were 13-3 last season, and now stand at 5-7. Who is to blame?

Don't even throw the injury excuse out there, cause that excuse never meant shit to anyone prior to this year.

Maybe we should blame it on the punter.

[retailguy]

It is you. You're to blame. You should fire yourself.

edit - If you'd have given the "damn" it would have been ok. I suppose you threw your lucky socks away too.

[PackerBlues]

It is you. You're to blame. You should fire yourself.

edit - If you'd have given the "damn" it would have been ok. I suppose you threw your lucky socks away too.

Well, the rebuilding process must be over with since Favre got kicked to the curb....... and if the rebuilding process is over with, than this must be the team that Thompson meant to put on the field this year........ and if this is the team that Thompson was content to give us this year.......

Yeah, it must be my fault!

[run pMc]

Blame lady luck. Last year there were a few games they probably should have lost. This year fortune is smiling on the other team.

Injuries certainly play a factor, but every team has them. That's where roster depth counts.

Well, the rebuilding process must be over with since Favre got kicked to the curb

I assume this is sarcasm...I wasn't thinking Year 1 A.F. (after Favre) would not be without some drop-off in the standings.

Then again, I don't think you can blame the W-L standings all on Rodgers. I think you can blame the D for the CAR loss...and the inability to punch in a TD to go up 35-28.

In general, the run D has been inconsistent, and there hasn't been enough pass rush to pressure QBs.
The OL and DL haven't played as well this year, Barnett was having an off year, and injuries hit some important players (Jenkins, Harris, etc.).

Did the 13-3 overachieve, or is this team underachieving?

[Patler]

Who is to blame? Everyone that is not performing as well as he performed last season. That would include most players on defense except Woodson and Collins (maybe Harris, too). It would include most everyone on kickoff coverage and maybe kickoff returns. Whether it is the players or the coaches fault for the decline in performance, I don't think any of us are in position to judge.

There is more blame to share, but those are the biggies if you must find individuals to blame.

[Bossman641]

Re: 5-7 ............. Who is to blame?

The Packers were 13-3 last season, and now stand at 5-7. Who is to blame?

Don't even throw the injury excuse out there, cause that excuse never meant shit to anyone prior to this year.

Maybe we should blame it on the punter.

Do you get off on this stuff or what?

Injuries, poor coaching and execution on defense and special teams, the punter, the OL, the DL, TT, MM's playcalling in some games, shitty fans like you who would rather see the team lose then win.

[Partial]

Did you really just blame a fan for the losses

[LL2]

It is you. You're to blame. You should fire yourself.

edit - If you'd have given the "damn" it would have been ok. I suppose you threw your lucky socks away too.

Well, the rebuilding process must be over with since Favre got kicked to the curb....... and if the rebuilding process is over with, than this must be the team that Thompson meant to put on the field this year........ and if this is the team that Thompson was content to give us this year.......

Yeah, it must be my fault!

With TT at the helm the Pack are always in a rebuilding process. That's why he trades down in the draft like crazy to get quantity over quality and avoids FA.

M3 should take a lot of the blame and everyone that has anything to do with defense and ST - players and coaches both.

[Bossman641]

Did you really just blame a fan for the losses

I'm sick of his shit. This is all he ever does. Anyone who looks at this team and says injuries are not part of the reason is an idiot. Let's see, we're on the 4th string DE, had 3 strong safeties injured yesterday, are missing the MLB and had to shuffle the linebacking corps accordingly, had a RB injured the first half of the year, have had WR's banged up all year, have 2 tackles struggling through games every week. Yea, he's right, injuries have nothing to do with it.

I don't mind talking about losses or where the team struggles. I enjoy it. It is somewhat theurapeutic for me getting other people's input. I like venting and hearing other people vent as well.

He is not interested in any of that. He does one thing - stir the pot.

[sheepshead]

89 penalties for 779 yards and 4 losses by 4 points or less?

first in football by the way.

[CaptainKickass]

I place the blame squarely upon the shoulders of......

The Green Bay Packers.

[sharpe1027]

I blame Frost. He has is no longer a Packer and should be fair game.

[HarveyWallbangers]

DL, penalties, coaching, bad luck

DL

Only 3 teams have allowed more yards/carry.
Only 6 teams have fewer sacks.

Penalties

Most penalty yards in the NFL, by a pretty significant margin.

Coaching

Not a good year for coach Mac. I'm firmly in his corner, but he's had a number of questionable decisions.

Dumb Luck

We've lost mostly close games. We've lost some in heartbreaking ways (missed fumble recoveries yesterday, missed FG by Crosby, didn't win the toss in OT vs. Tennessee). The calls have seemed to mostly go against us. It evens out, but it seems to be one of those years. We've also had injuries. All teams have injuries, but we've had guys nicked up all year.

Call me a homer, but if we can rebuild the DL this offseason, I think we'll have a surprising rebound next year. Our schedule doesn't look incredibly daunting next year. This year, we've only played 2 games against teams with a losing record. Next year, we get Cincinnati, Cleveland, San Fran, St. Louis, Seattle, and Detroit twice.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Call me a homer, but if we can rebuild the DL this offseason, I think we'll have a surprising rebound next year. Our schedule doesn't look incredibly daunting next year. This year, we've only played 2 games against teams with a losing record. Next year, we get Cincinnati, Cleveland, San Fran, St. Louis, Seattle, and Detroit twice.

But if that happens, what will "fans" like PackerBlues have to whine about?

[Patler]

Well, I have given this a lot of thought. Looks to me like the blame lies with Bob Harlan.

Harlan hired Wolf,and Wolf:
-let Vonnie Holiday get away, who is still playing today and would help the DL
-let Hentrich walk, who still punts today and would be better than Frost.
-failed to get a credible OL or Dl player in 1999
-wasted a 1st round pick on Antuan Edwards in 1999, could have taken Patrick Kearney, Dre Bly and a host of others who were available
-wasted a third round pick on Steve Warren in 2000. Should have done better.
-hired Ray Rhodes as coach, necessitating change within a year
-hired as coach and then recommended as GM Mr. Mike Sherman. Had he not hired him as coach, he would not have recommended him as GM. Had he not screwed up with Rhodes, Sherman would never have seen Green Bay.

Wolf screwing up the Rhodes hiring, necessitating the Sherman hiring, resulting in the Sherman elevation to GM caused the following:
-draft screw-ups too numerous to mention
-letting Josh Bidwell leave, a Wolf draft pick who could still be punting today
-DB coach firing pissing of McKenzie leading to his departure.
-mind boggling FA signings and vet resignings making a tight cap situation.

This, of course ultimately lead to the downfall of Sherman as GM. leading to the hiring of TT, and as we all know:
-TT is so tight that he let all-pros and other good players leave
-he refuses to sign free agents that fans want
-he refused to sign FAs that Favre wanted, pissing off Favre
-leading to the Favre annual debacle
-ultimately running Favre out of town.

Of course, if he were here, Favre would have completed every pass, most going for TDs and the Packers would be undefeated.

So yes, it is all Bob Harlans fault. He screwed up by hiring Ron Wolf, which ultimately lead to the Packers record this year.