6-10 ............. Who is to blame?

[bbbffl66]

Did you really just blame a fan for the losses

I'm sick of his shit. This is all he ever does. Anyone who looks at this team and says injuries are not part of the reason is an idiot. Let's see, we're on the 4th string DE, had 3 strong safeties injured yesterday, are missing the MLB and had to shuffle the linebacking corps accordingly, had a RB injured the first half of the year, have had WR's banged up all year, have 2 tackles struggling through games every week. Yea, he's right, injuries have nothing to do with it.

I don't mind talking about losses or where the team struggles. I enjoy it. It is somewhat theurapeutic for me getting other people's input. I like venting and hearing other people vent as well.

He is not interested in any of that. He does one thing - stir the pot.

When Shermy went 4-12 with an injury ravaged team that was all on him though right?

[PackerBlues]

Did you really just blame a fan for the losses

I'm sick of his shit. This is all he ever does. Anyone who looks at this team and says injuries are not part of the reason is an idiot. Let's see, we're on the 4th string DE, had 3 strong safeties injured yesterday, are missing the MLB and had to shuffle the linebacking corps accordingly, had a RB injured the first half of the year, have had WR's banged up all year, have 2 tackles struggling through games every week. Yea, he's right, injuries have nothing to do with it.

I don't mind talking about losses or where the team struggles. I enjoy it. It is somewhat theurapeutic for me getting other people's input. I like venting and hearing other people vent as well.

He is not interested in any of that. He does one thing - stir the pot.

When Shermy went 4-12 with an injury ravaged team that was all on him though right?

that 4-12 season was Thompsons start at rebuilding. It would not have mattered who was coaching, the team was destined to suck ass that year.

[bobblehead]

Call me a homer, but if we can rebuild the DL this offseason, I think we'll have a surprising rebound next year.

Damn Homer, your posts are getting to be almost as good as Patler's.

The D-line has been a problem for a while now. Pressure on opposing QB's has been nearly non-existant. Considering as how the team was approx. 25 million under the cap before Favre left and perhaps as much as 35 million under the cap after his departure, I would hope that the team can manage to find someone in free agency this coming offseason to bolster the pass rush.

I'm sure that I will catch hell for this, but I have to wonder why KGB was not given as much time to recover from his injuries, as Justin Harrell has been given. I'm sure there may be a number of reasons, but KGB was a proven pass rusher, while Justin Harrell has simply proven that he is injury prone.

The reason would be that KGB is making 7 million base and harrell is making less than 2 I believe. KGB is on the wrong side of 30, harrell is barely over 20. KGB was supposedly healthy and still hadn't recovered his burst and wasn't likely too. Harrell is in his second year in the NFL, pretty quick to give up on a guy with a big upside.

I'm not "giving you hell" for this, but if your inference was the TT made a horrible decision because of his ego, your a fool. If it was a legitimate question then I gave you just a couple of legitimate answers.

[sheepshead]

Huh? I have NO problem with Rodgers' play this season. He has been everything and more for a first year starter. And if you look at my previous post I said "we might have 2 more wins".

The only way I can see that is that somehow Rodgers is to blame for two losses and our guy from last year would have won them. They both play the same position. so - what has Rodgers done that 1) lost two game and 2) Brett Favre would have done better or not done based on what you know about Brett Favre?

Sheep, you know I'm very happy with rodgers and the decision to go with him, BUT it was atlanta or tampa, I forget. They sent a corner on a naked blitz from the left and Arod never looked, he missed the hot read to hit the reciever the corner left. He DID get drilled in the small of the back and toss a pick that probably cost us the game.

I believe we would probably have another win, maybe two if BF were the QB, woopdeefuckingdoo. he retired, he got replaced, we live with it and move on.

and in 16 years weve never seen brett do anything like that? Theres too many casual observers out there blaming our record on Favres trade and thus Rodgers performance. I think theres plenty other places to look.

[Bossman641]

Did you really just blame a fan for the losses

I'm sick of his shit. This is all he ever does. Anyone who looks at this team and says injuries are not part of the reason is an idiot. Let's see, we're on the 4th string DE, had 3 strong safeties injured yesterday, are missing the MLB and had to shuffle the linebacking corps accordingly, had a RB injured the first half of the year, have had WR's banged up all year, have 2 tackles struggling through games every week. Yea, he's right, injuries have nothing to do with it.

I don't mind talking about losses or where the team struggles. I enjoy it. It is somewhat theurapeutic for me getting other people's input. I like venting and hearing other people vent as well.

He is not interested in any of that. He does one thing - stir the pot.

When Shermy went 4-12 with an injury ravaged team that was all on him though right?

Try again.

I thought Sherman got a raw deal. That entire season was a mess and he was fielding a practice squad team. I always respected what he did for the team and thought he would have been a much better coach if he didn't have GM duties as well.

[bobblehead]

I thought Sherman got a raw deal. That entire season was a mess and he was fielding a practice squad team. I always respected what he did for the team and thought he would have been a much better coach if he didn't have GM duties as well.

I agree with this, but he WAS the GM, and he failed at that. No GM would have kept him on when they took over. A GM has to sink or swim with his choice as the coach, not the one he inherited.

[Bossman641]

I thought Sherman got a raw deal. That entire season was a mess and he was fielding a practice squad team. I always respected what he did for the team and thought he would have been a much better coach if he didn't have GM duties as well.

I agree with this, but he WAS the GM, and he failed at that. No GM would have kept him on when they took over. A GM has to sink or swim with his choice as the coach, not the one he inherited.

No question. If the GM doesn't like the coach or doesn't think he fits the system he has every right to get rid of him. Sherman was a below-average GM. He was very attentive to details and maybe not trusting enough I would say. That can work for a coach, but when you factor in the GM responsibilities I just think it got to be too much for him. If he had never became the GM in the first place and only concentrated on coaching I think he would have been a much better coach.

I don't think Sherman's people skills fit the GM mold very well. IMO the GM has to be a little cold-hearted, and has to delegate responsibilities. Sherman was the opposite. As a coach he got to know his players and cared about them too much when it came to GM responsibilities.

[PackerBlues]

The reason would be that KGB is making 7 million base and harrell is making less than 2 I believe. KGB is on the wrong side of 30, harrell is barely over 20. KGB was supposedly healthy and still hadn't recovered his burst and wasn't likely too. Harrell is in his second year in the NFL, pretty quick to give up on a guy with a big upside.

I'm not "giving you hell" for this, but if your inference was the TT made a horrible decision because of his ego, your a fool. If it was a legitimate question then I gave you just a couple of legitimate answers.

no, I am not inferring anything on TT or his ego in this case, and your answer is a great one. I am curious though as to how bad was KGB's injury? Is he expected to make a comeback? Did he sign with anyone yet?
As far as Harrell, I keep hearing about his upside.......I just have not seen any of it. He has been with the team for a while now, when is it appropriate to give up on what seems to be an injury prone player?

[Patler]

Deleted - This was simply repeating part of what Bobblehead already wrote.

[MOBB DEEP]

BRING BLACK RHODES...!!!

at least he was .500

[Bossman641]

BRING BLACK RHODES...!!!

at least he was .500

Rhodes was a terrible coach. He couldn't get fired quick enough.

[Fritz]

The reason would be that KGB is making 7 million base and harrell is making less than 2 I believe. KGB is on the wrong side of 30, harrell is barely over 20. KGB was supposedly healthy and still hadn't recovered his burst and wasn't likely too. Harrell is in his second year in the NFL, pretty quick to give up on a guy with a big upside.

I'm not "giving you hell" for this, but if your inference was the TT made a horrible decision because of his ego, your a fool. If it was a legitimate question then I gave you just a couple of legitimate answers.

no, I am not inferring anything on TT or his ego in this case, and your answer is a great one. I am curious though as to how bad was KGB's injury? Is he expected to make a comeback? Did he sign with anyone yet?
As far as Harrell, I keep hearing about his upside.......I just have not seen any of it. He has been with the team for a while now, when is it appropriate to give up on what seems to be an injury prone player?

No, I do not believe KGB signed with anyone yet.

[bobblehead]

The reason would be that KGB is making 7 million base and harrell is making less than 2 I believe. KGB is on the wrong side of 30, harrell is barely over 20. KGB was supposedly healthy and still hadn't recovered his burst and wasn't likely too. Harrell is in his second year in the NFL, pretty quick to give up on a guy with a big upside.

I'm not "giving you hell" for this, but if your inference was the TT made a horrible decision because of his ego, your a fool. If it was a legitimate question then I gave you just a couple of legitimate answers.

no, I am not inferring anything on TT or his ego in this case, and your answer is a great one. I am curious though as to how bad was KGB's injury? Is he expected to make a comeback? Did he sign with anyone yet?
As far as Harrell, I keep hearing about his upside.......I just have not seen any of it. He has been with the team for a while now, when is it appropriate to give up on what seems to be an injury prone player?

My guess is that they will keep him through his rookie contract, so 4 years. It is slightly possible they cut him after 3 if they have prospect showing promise and they want the roster spot, but I would think you are stuck with him through next season no matter what.

I don't want to defend the guy too much, as I consistently say guys who don't perform on the field have to be replaced. The problem is that he hasn't had much chance to look bad on the field either so they are going to give a guy like him a chance. This pick is reminding me of the Ron Wolf pick of Antuan Edwards. "he slipped to us because of injury, but man is he gonna be good"

[bobblehead]

BRING BLACK RHODES...!!!

at least he was .500

Rhodes was a terrible coach. He couldn't get fired quick enough.

He was a great defensive coordinator, but he didn't cut it as a coach.

[Gunakor]

BRING BLACK RHODES...!!!

at least he was .500

With a Super Bowl caliber team on both sides of the ball, led by a 29 year old Brett Favre in his prime. That one was tough to swallow. Rhodes was an awful HC.