Its not always a Brett Favre thing

[dissident94]

The guys who cannot fathom critisizing A-Rod cannot get over the fact that A-rod and the offense should take almost as much blame for the record as the Defense.
But as soon as you point out how inept the offense has been they bring up Favre.
It is not a Favre thing anymore. There are serious issues on the offensive side and its not even the line anymore.
Simple fact we need to put up more points on offense to win. Our defense is not that good.
But people only blame the defense. Yes they suck, but so does A-Rod and the offense

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Its not always a Brett Favre thing

But people only blame the defense.

Hardly. Some people want to mostly blame the defense. Others want to mostly blame Aaron Rodgers.

This gets old.

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a-rods played good for a first year guy, and he's looked great at times, but with the talent he has at WR he should have been better

and the o-line is just shit. i don't understand how people think our line is good. they are horrible

but the d has been even shittier IMO

the job of the d is to hold the other teams to as few points as they can. its the offenses job to then score more points then the d gives up

both have failed this year. throw in our sucking on st and you get one of the worst teams in the nfl

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Re: Its not always a Brett Favre thing

But people only blame the defense.

Hardly. Some people want to mostly blame the defense. Others want to mostly blame Aaron Rodgers.

This gets old.

Aaron Rodgers is the leader of the offense like it or not. He's a 4th year player who has started 14 games now. This kind of performance gets criticized on every other team but ours.

He is playing OK. Nothing more, nothing less. When playing against the 24th ranked defense, we are expected to score more than 1 touchdown when we have two borderline all-pro receivers.

[dissident94]

The O-line is giving Rodgers enough time.

Rodgers makes plays and looks good at times. There has to be some question whether he is a clutch player.

Jeff George for instance could throw the ball better than anyone and could put up huge numbers, but when you really needed him he never could deliver

[digitaldean]

Enough blame to go around.

The fumble? Cmon if Rodgers isn't mugged by the guy Moll whiffs on it doesn't happen. Grant drops a sure TD. Sure even the late pick, is ARod's fault. The trips in the redzone with 1 TD. Fault the WRs for not getting open enough.

Defense had to really stop 2 weapons, Garrard and Jones-Drew on the ground. THAT ALL. NO Fred Taylor. Top wideouts not playing, tons of OL problems.

Having to make a stop with 5 minutes and 40-50 yards to keep them from FG range and what do we have. Another stupid zone defense play that is blown. We are best at man and we go back to this vanilla bob prevent zone d bullcrap.

This loss is a team loss, but the D bears most of the blame. If you can't see that, you're beyond blind.

[dissident94]

My god I cannot take this.

The only way this team can win right now is to score. We couldn't get it done. 1 TD by the offense and yo usay the defense is to blame.
Yes they gave up a big play. But the offense should have had 2-3 tds by that point and the game should have been over, same as last week

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The O-line is giving Rodgers enough time.

i still disagree with that. rodgers scrambles out of the pocket a lot to make it look like he gets more time then he should

when you watch other teams play against us, now that is having all day, rodgers was hurried rushed , hit and sacked quite a bit today

[dissident94]

Rodgers has enough time. A lot of his scrambles comes when he cannot find anyone open

[TennesseePackerBacker]

You seriously think the line is not a problem? The packers had 84 rushing yards today before you even take out the negative yardage for sacks. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM?

think about things before you make stupid posts.



let that sink in.....

edit: and sometimes I need to take my own advice, I don't know why I thought they took negative sack yardage away from team rushing yardage.

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Enough blame to go around.

The fumble? Cmon if Rodgers isn't mugged by the guy Moll whiffs on it doesn't happen. Grant drops a sure TD. Sure even the late pick, is ARod's fault. The trips in the redzone with 1 TD. Fault the WRs for not getting open enough.

Defense had to really stop 2 weapons, Garrard and Jones-Drew on the ground. THAT ALL. NO Fred Taylor. Top wideouts not playing, tons of OL problems.

Having to make a stop with 5 minutes and 40-50 yards to keep them from FG range and what do we have. Another stupid zone defense play that is blown. We are best at man and we go back to this vanilla bob prevent zone d bullcrap.

This loss is a team loss, but the D bears most of the blame. If you can't see that, you're beyond blind.

How? They gave up 20 points. Who cares if they gave up 20 points all in the first quarter or at the end of the game.

It's a 60 minute football game. It's a fact of life your defense is going to give up 20 points per game on average, easily. The Packers need some offense during that 60 minutes, not right at the end necessarily, to outscore the opposition.

Putting the blame on the D for the collaspe at the end despite holding tough all game is dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb. That is a really short sighted way to look at it.

[dissident94]

You seriously think the line is not a problem? The packers had 84 rushing yards today before you even take out the negative yardage for sacks. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM?

THINK ABOUT THINGS BEFORE YOU MAKE STUPID POSTS.




let that sink in.....

Since when do you take out negative yards for sacks against rushing. Thats only in college. In the NFL it goes against your passing yards. Not the QBs but the offensive yrds.

Never said line wasn't a problem. I jsut said Rodgers is getting enough time which he is.

[dissident94]

Look at our mighty offensive drives inthe 2nd half

6 plays 9rds punt

7 plays 30 yrds punt

7 plays 5 yrds turnover -downs

9 plays 50 yrds FG

6 plays 32 yds int


Thats not going to win too many football games. The D held their end for most of the game. The offense couldn't take advatange.

The D is to blame, but come on the offense is not doing anything to win games rigth now

[cpk1994]

Look at our mighty offensive drives inthe 2nd half

6 plays 9rds punt

7 plays 30 yrds punt

7 plays 5 yrds turnover -downs

9 plays 50 yrds FG

6 plays 32 yds int


Thats not going to win too many football games. The D held their end for most of the game. The offense couldn't take advatange.

The D is to blame, but come on the offense is not doing anything to win games rigth now

BS, the offense had the team with a 4 quarter lead AGAIN for the 3rd straight week. AGAIN the defense didn't show up in the 4th. Quit making excuses for the defense.

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THEY BOTH SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only question is which sucks more ass. with one side playing like shit you can be a so-so team. we have both side, and special teams all playing like crap this year