Its not always a Brett Favre thing

[mr_blonde]

The offensive play calling in the second half was piss poor, but Rodgers needs to take some of the blame too.

While Rodgers has statistically played well and for the most part showed good decision making skills; he still has not "finished".

Yes, the defense has time and time again choked at the end; but today Rodgers did have 2 minutes and 2 timeouts to lead the Packers to a game winning TD but couldn't deliver.

[dissident94]

Look at our mighty offensive drives inthe 2nd half

6 plays 9rds punt

7 plays 30 yrds punt

7 plays 5 yrds turnover -downs

9 plays 50 yrds FG

6 plays 32 yds int


Thats not going to win too many football games. The D held their end for most of the game. The offense couldn't take advatange.

The D is to blame, but come on the offense is not doing anything to win games rigth now

BS, the offense had the team with a 4 quarter lead AGAIN for the 3rd straight week. AGAIN the defense didn't show up in the 4th. Quit making excuses for the defense.

So I am making up the drive chart above. Oh and I am making up the fact we only scored 3 pts in the second half. But according to you those 3 pts is all that is needed to win because it gave us a lead. Then whoever scores first should always win since its the Defensive job to hold leads right.

We scored 3 points in the second half. And should have had more in the first. This happens and the game isn't even close

[cpk1994]

Look at our mighty offensive drives inthe 2nd half

6 plays 9rds punt

7 plays 30 yrds punt

7 plays 5 yrds turnover -downs

9 plays 50 yrds FG

6 plays 32 yds int


Thats not going to win too many football games. The D held their end for most of the game. The offense couldn't take advatange.

The D is to blame, but come on the offense is not doing anything to win games rigth now

BS, the offense had the team with a 4 quarter lead AGAIN for the 3rd straight week. AGAIN the defense didn't show up in the 4th. Quit making excuses for the defense.

So I am making up the drive chart above. Oh and I am making up the fact we only scored 3 pts in the second half. But according to you those 3 pts is all that is needed to win because it gave us a lead. Then whoever scores first should always win since its the Defensive job to hold leads right.

We scored 3 points in the second half. And should have had more in the first. This happens and the game isn't even close

Please. Another one making excuses for the defense. I expect expect the defense to hold a 9 pt lead in the 4th Quarter. Why? ITS THEIR FUCKING JOB! How many 4th quarter leads have to be blown before you finally blame them for their ineptitude? Are you related to Bob Sanders?

[dissident94]

You expect the defense to do their job but you do not expect the offense.

Both suck

[Gunakor]

Look at our mighty offensive drives inthe 2nd half

6 plays 9rds punt

7 plays 30 yrds punt

7 plays 5 yrds turnover -downs

9 plays 50 yrds FG

6 plays 32 yds int


Thats not going to win too many football games. The D held their end for most of the game. The offense couldn't take advatange.

The D is to blame, but come on the offense is not doing anything to win games rigth now

BS, the offense had the team with a 4 quarter lead AGAIN for the 3rd straight week. AGAIN the defense didn't show up in the 4th. Quit making excuses for the defense.

So I am making up the drive chart above. Oh and I am making up the fact we only scored 3 pts in the second half. But according to you those 3 pts is all that is needed to win because it gave us a lead. Then whoever scores first should always win since its the Defensive job to hold leads right.

We scored 3 points in the second half. And should have had more in the first. This happens and the game isn't even close

It doesn't matter what the score is. If you have a lead in the 4th quarter it is the defenses job to protect that lead. I don't care if your lead is only one point. If you are ahead by one point in the 4th quarter, your defense is charged with not giving up any. That is what can be reasonably expected of a defense. Come up with stops every time you have to come up with them. Regardless of the spot the offense put them in today, they had the lead in the 4th quarter. It ends there. The team had a lead in the 4th quarter and the defense gave it up, end of story.

[Gunakor]

You expect the defense to do their job but you do not expect the offense.

Both suck

The offense did it's job. They had given this team a lead in the 4th quarter. Remember?

[dissident94]

True, the defense is giving up 4th quarter leads.

They Suck

But they shouldn't be put in that spot every game either.

We score 1 td

Socre 3 pts in the second half, when the d held Jacksonville scoreless for over 30 minutes at one point.

The offense couldn't convert either. But no one touches them and the new golden boy

[Bretsky]

I fall in the middle of this offense versus defense debate

First off I will not blame the game on AROD

The Jags Defense sucks
Green Bay's Defense sucks

BUT if somebody told me before the game Green Bay would only give up 20 points I'd have taken that in a second and figured Green Bay would surely win

If somebody had told me before the game GB's offense will score only 16pts against the Jags I'd have figured they did a shitty job

Just another way to look at it

[cpk1994]

True, the defense is giving up 4th quarter leads.

They Suck

But they shouldn't be put in that spot every game either.

We score 1 td

Socre 3 pts in the second half, when the d held Jacksonville scoreless for over 30 minutes at one point.

The offense couldn't convert either. But no one touches them and the new golden boy

So you are saying the defense shouldn't have to hold a 4th quarter lead? I nominate this for the "Dumbest Post of the Year" Award becuase now I have heard it all.

[gex]

True, the defense is giving up 4th quarter leads.

They Suck

But they shouldn't be put in that spot every game either.

We score 1 td

Socre 3 pts in the second half, when the d held Jacksonville scoreless for over 30 minutes at one point.

The offense couldn't convert either. But no one touches them and the new golden boy

So you are saying the defense shouldn't have to hold a 4th quarter lead? I nominate this for the "Dumbest Post of the Year" Award becuase now I have heard it all.

[dissident94]

Are you saying then when should win 3-0 if we kick a field goal early.

God damn. The game shouldn't have been close.

Do you think the offense is doing enough to win. Please tell me 3 pts in the second half is good enough to win.

[Gunakor]

Are you saying then when should win 3-0 if we kick a field goal early.

God damn. The game shouldn't have been close.

Do you think the offense is doing enough to win. Please tell me 3 pts in the second half is good enough to win.

If we are ahead 3-0 with less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, then yes I expect to win 3-0. I expect our defense to hold a lead that late in the game every single time, regardless what the actual score is.

[Rastak]

Are you saying then when should win 3-0 if we kick a field goal early.

God damn. The game shouldn't have been close.

Do you think the offense is doing enough to win. Please tell me 3 pts in the second half is good enough to win.

If we are ahead 3-0 with less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, then yes I expect to win 3-0. I expect our defense to hold a lead that late in the game every single time, regardless what the actual score is.

I agree but wouldn't you be pissed if your squad scored 3?

[Partial]

Are you saying then when should win 3-0 if we kick a field goal early.

God damn. The game shouldn't have been close.

Do you think the offense is doing enough to win. Please tell me 3 pts in the second half is good enough to win.

If we are ahead 3-0 with less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, then yes I expect to win 3-0. I expect our defense to hold a lead that late in the game every single time, regardless what the actual score is.

See, I don't, and I don't think most NFL teams do. You're only going to hold a team X amount of times regardless of the time left. Eventually, they're going to get lucky and something is going to give.

We don't have an elite defense. The offense needs to stop relying on them for so much help.

[dissident94]

The defense held Jacksonville scoreless for over 2 quarters at one point. During that time Green Bay should have built a big enough lead to no have it close. With the offensive talent this team has that is unacceptable.

Should the defense hold. Yes. My point is the offense isn't doing there job either. The defense played ok today. They did enough to win. They broke down late again, but so did our offense