National Championship QBs

[Bossman641]

Let's look at Vince's situational stats from that magical 2006 season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/vinceyoung/situationalstats?id=YOU617196&season=2006

He does play better in the final minutes of halves, but it's certainly nothing to write home about.
53%, 416 yards, 2 TD, and 2 picks

Tied?
55%, 363 yards, 1 TD, and 1 pick

How about his stats when behind by 1-8 points?
58%, 356 yards, 2 TD, and 2 picks

Behind by 9-16?
54%, 648 yards, 4 TD, and 6 picks

Hmm, 4th quarter?
50.4%, 648 yards, 6 TD, and 4 picks

4th quarter within 7?
50%, 588 yards, 6 TD, and 4 picks

To be fair, I will also post Young's running stats.

http://www.nfl.com/players/vinceyoung/situationalstats?id=YOU617196&season=2006

I have an idea. Let's compare Rodgers 2008 stats to Young. Surely VY will prove how superior he is in close games.

Final 2 min of half
62.9%, 362 yards, 2 TD, and 3 picks

Tied?
62.5%, 848 yards, 6 TD, and 1 pick

Behind 1-8?
55.2%, 358 yards, 4 TD, and 1 pick

Behind 9-16?
65.9%, 1,470 yards, 9 TD, and 7 picks

4th quarter?
60.8%, 1,063 yards, 8 TD, and 5 picks

4th quarter within 7?
60.5%, 1,004 yards, 8 TD, and 5 picks

What say you Partial??

[Partial]

Same thing I've said all along. He wins games with his arms, legs, etc. Looking at passing stats exclusively is not doing justice to him.

[Bossman641]

Same thing I've said all along. He wins games with his arms, legs, etc. Looking at passing stats exclusively is not doing justice to him.

I give up. Where should I buy my authentic Vince Young jersey? Should I go for the college one, or the Titans? Good thinking, better get both.

[vince]

I wonder if Young's demise has been a result of opponents quickly learning that, if you just contain him in the pocket, the ball lands on the ground and in the arms of your guys a lot...

No wait, Partial said that it was Rodgers who teams figured out how to defend, so it must have been he whose performance quickly slid into oblivion.

No wait, Rodgers didn't really suck after all did he? Perhaps Rodgers' struggles in mid-season had something to do with his shoulder injury...

No wait, Partial ignored Rodgers' injury, since he played through it, so that must have been a non-factor, but he did emphasize Young's injury as the reason for HIS poor performance and benching.

But wait, if he would have been healthy, there would have been no containing the anointed one. He's the ultimate Wildcat. You know, that vaunted rushing attack that carried the Dolphins to the 17th best rushing attack this season... That's the revolution in this game that Vince Young and his 29.5 yards rushing per game helped create - and the one that will carry him forward to be one of the greatest of all-time.

Wait, the Dolphins players attribute their success to their new quarterback's leadership, decision-making, and ability to make the rest of the team better (those attributes that USED to be the primary responsibilities of a quarterback) - not their below-average running game gimmick that stole a game by surprising a team that had no game plan for it, but ultimately makes the team (like Vince Young) one-dimensional.

But wait, we can't forget about Young's legs, ears, nose and mouth - that ideal physique! Doing that is ignoring his greatest contribution. He's a HUGE difference maker! And not gushing with praise over Young's "elite athleticism" is absurd!

No wait, the guy who replaced him immediately led the team to become the winningest team in the league. So I guess THAT made quite a difference...

No wait, that couldn't be, since Vince Young is redefining the position of quarterback - right there from the sidelines. All by himself. Carrying the team on his back. Single-handedly. And that's what it's all about.

[vince]

Kordell Stewart. Now that guy had "it." Redefined the QB position. Remember that year he signed with the Bears? What a difference maker. He really improved his accuracy throwing the ball. Well, OK he actually got worse, but he would have if he would have just refined his technique.

But who cares about completing passes anyway? Let's not be focusing on the man's worst attributes here. Get a clue people. How in the hell do you guys make it through the day?

Dude could run like the wind. He averaged over 27 yards a game on the ground from '97 - '03 when he played QB. And what a physique. Revolutionary. He was wildcat before wildcat was wildcat.

Louisiana Player of the Year back in high school. Top 5 finishes nationally two years in a row in college. All American too. Remember that Hail Mary come-from-behind win against Michigan that year? 11-5 with the Steelers his first year at QB. AFC Championship game. What a winner.

Too bad that guy Grossman replaced him when he temporarily struggled. I think he must have got hurt, because he was destined to be one of the greatest of all time. Would've carried the Bears to the promised land. By himself.

[Badgerinmaine]

Vince Young appeared to have a serious case of clinical depression, even to the point of having suicidal tendencies. Millions of other men do, too. If he can get successful treatment for it, there is no reason why he can't have a good NFL career. In some ways, it's a lot like working around the physical injuries other players have had. I'm more than willing to cut him some slack.

[SkinBasket]

Per ESPN (who doesn't mind actually having people reading their content):

Source: Collins told he'll start in '09
ESPN.com news services

When Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher broke the news to Kerry Collins last week that he was headed to the Pro Bowl, he also communicated directly to Collins that he indeed wants him back as his starting quarterback in 2009, a team source told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

Fisher had made public remarks that Collins deserved to be the starter based on his performance this season, but a source said his private reaffirmation thrilled Collins, who has said he will retire if he does not get a contract as a starting quarterback.

Collins, who was voted as a Pro Bowl alternate and replaces Brett Favre on the AFC roster, is scheduled to become a free agent in March. Though Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt has had some philosophical contract discussions with Collins' representatives, there has been no real negotiations as of yet.

If a contract is completed for Collins, it means former first-round draft pick Vince Young will have to cope with the disappointment of losing his job to the veteran. A team source said Young has promised to have a good attitude and work ethic this offseason.

However, the team has a desire to re-sign Chris Simms, who was the third-string quarterback. Simms also is set to be a free agent, but the Titans believe he showed tremendous progress throughout the season in practice and believe he is now fully healthy after complications from having his spleen removed during the 2006 season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


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ONOZ!!!!!

Looks like the Talented Mr. Young will have to continue to revolutionize the NFL QB position from the bench next season! Even worse is the urgency the team is showing for resigning 3rd stringer Chris Simms - which might mean Vince Almighty might have to settle for being the most elite 3rd string QB in the history of the NFL in 2009.

[Lurker64]

And here I was, just a couple of years ago, thinking that Jared Lorenzen with his unique physique for a QB was going to reinvent the position of third string emergency backup quarterback. How wrong I was.