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If Peppers gets tagged and the price is a couple of draft picks and TT uncharacteristically lays them on the table to get Peppers, would we keep him happy and playing hard every play? He's been known to disappear in games. I would rather have a more underrated guy who plays hard all the time. If the Panthers sign Gross, I think Peppers gets tagged and the price is too high.
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Wow... Panther fans really seem to want to get rid of him. Looking at some of those comments left by their fans, it makes you wonder about signing a guy like Peppers at the price he's going to come with.Originally posted by Bretsky
Baltimore has 3 players whose contracts expire this offseason that would be as great a fit on our team as Peppers, and likely won't cost nearly as much. I'm ready to move past Peppers and focus on one of these 3 guys.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to growComment
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I'm not sure about that. Fans tend to rag on a guy when they think he might leave. It's natural.Originally posted by Gunakor"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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You know, I've been very hard on old Ted about not signing free agents. Yet, I'd be OK with the idea of bypassing Peppers. I still have vivid memories of Joe Johnson... No FA signing is a sure thing, just like no Draft pick is a sure thing. That's why we need BOTH.Originally posted by Gunakor
I think Gunakor is right. We need a FA, maybe two if we can get them. Getting Peppers costs so much, it'd make it difficult to fill other holes, and pay our own people. Getting one of the Baltimore guys might enable us to get another DL this season. We need more than one guy, especially with the pending switch to the 3-4.Comment
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I have virtually no memories of Joe Johnson. But I think I'm making the same point you were!Originally posted by retailguy"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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So the Trgovac development and the fact that Capers is running a 3-4 puts an interesting spin on this.
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But Peppers wanted out of Trgovac's D-Line in Carolina.Originally posted by WaldoSo the Trgovac development and the fact that Capers is running a 3-4 puts an interesting spin on this.
Do we know if he likes Trgovac?
Without more information about the relationship between the two, the hiring of Trgovac may cut as much one way as the other vis a vis the Julius Peppers situation.
And Ted's take on Free Agency is clear; I've heard him articulate the same message in several different interviews. He considers free agency a helpful tool in the right situations, but one has to avoid overpaying a great player in year "A" if it means losing multiple quality players of your own in years "B" and "C".
Maybe, just maybe, Ted is getting nervous enough to go a little short term for once and actually go after Peppers. Unfortunately, if we do get involved in the bidding, we'll probably end up empty-handed after driving up the price for someone else.
And if Peppers doesn't like Trgovac they're already done talking about him up in the Packer offices.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.Comment
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Depends on whether Peppers' problems were personal or schematic. Remember Fox is a defensive HC and keeper of the scheme. I've seen rumors (well before he was hired) that Peppers wanted to play for Capers. I also have seen another rumor that the DL coach, not Trgovac, was the problem. Too much effort to link to them all right now (maybe I'll be more motivated a little later and do the hunting). Also, unless Gross signs a relatively cheap long term contract prior to the tag date, they don't have the cap space to franchise Pep.
This is a good year for FA if you have the cap space to frontload, since a lot of the long term cap hit can be dumped into the uncapped year in the form of roster bonuses and salary. The uncapped year means we will be able to keep everybody that we want at relatively good cap #'s. It is no coincidence that a ton of contracts end prior to next season. TT has been planning for this for a while. A smart GM can come out of the uncapped year in a very good gap situation.Comment
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Peppers (through his agent) has said that no matter what the Panthers change or decide, he is done with the team.
So that does leave a glimmer of a chance to get him in FA.
Still would be Haynesworth over him (of if Haynesworth isn't franchised).-digital dean
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You don't think Hayneworth wasn't playing for a contract this year? C.Hunt = nuff said.Originally posted by digitaldean
Same goes for Peppers, he probably knew going into this season he was done with the team and played for a contract....I mean look at the Panthers, they made it into the playoffs. Why leave that?
I will however say this, of the two that most people are talking about on the DL, Peppers is by far the better player. In a 3-4 as an OLB blizing and being allowed to roam...oh the thoughts of an OC trying to contain him and still cover for Jenkins, Hawk and Kampman....Comment
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