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  • #46
    Originally posted by Partial
    Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
    How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Partial
      and were better than the Pack last year.
      If they were, for fact, better than the Packers last year, why did they get trounced 37-3 one game and were a missed FG away from losing the other?
      Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Originally posted by Partial
        Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
        How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?
        i'm pretty sure the answer is infinity

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Partial
          Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
          Originally posted by sheepshead
          The bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
          I am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.
          Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.

          And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
          Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
          In football. Maybe in the last 50 years.
          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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          • #50
            Originally posted by red
            Originally posted by Lurker64
            Originally posted by Partial
            Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
            How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?
            i'm pretty sure the answer is infinity
            No, as soon as Rodgers wins a SB I'm sure even Partial will jump on board. Not that Cutler had to win a SB or anything, but the standards are higher in Green Bay.

            I personally am just anxious to see the two meet twice this year so we can put this argument to rest.
            Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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            • #51
              Originally posted by sheepshead
              Originally posted by Partial
              Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
              Originally posted by sheepshead
              The bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
              I am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.
              Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.

              And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
              Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
              In football. Maybe in the last 50 years.
              You mean, even better than...
              Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                Originally posted by sheepshead
                The bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
                I am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.
                Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.

                And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
                Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
                "Without a doubt"??? Better than Rodgers??
                Evidence?
                Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                  Originally posted by sheepshead
                  The bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
                  I am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.
                  Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.

                  And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
                  Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
                  They look about even to me. Both put up good numbers last year, but neither was able to come through in the clutch enough to put their teams in the playoffs. Cutler may be a bit more talented physically, but is also more error-prone. This makes the Bears a more dangerous team offensively though. Should be a great season opener.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #54
                    pft.com

                    THIRD UPDATE: NFL.com reports that the Bears are giving up two first-rounder, a third-rounder, and Orton for only Cutler.
                    No fifth round back to the Bears according to the newest update...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Lurker64
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
                      How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?
                      We'll see how they do head to head. I suspect The bears will go 2-0 against the Pack with the rosters as they currently are. We'll see how the draft pans out.

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                      • #56
                        I look at this as good news. I have argued that one of the problems the Packers had the last 10 years or so, when they did make the playoffs, their division was lousy and they played a lot of other soft teams. They would get to the playoffs and couldn't ramp it up to be at their best week after week.

                        Having a quality division will be good for whoever wins it. Besides, if you put together a legitimate SB team, it won't matter if the rest of you division is good, you will beat them anyway.

                        Backing into the playoffs in a weak division doesn't do anyone much good, and most of the NFC North winners the last 10 years have sort of won by default.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Patler
                          I look at this as good news. I have argued that one of the problems the Packers had the last 10 years or so, when they did make the playoffs, their division was lousy and they played a lot of other soft teams. They would get to the playoffs and couldn't ramp it up to be at their best week after week.

                          Having a quality division will be good for whoever wins it. Besides, if you put together a legitimate SB team, it won't matter if the rest of you division is good, you will beat them anyway.

                          Backing into the playoffs in a weak division doesn't do anyone much good, and most of the NFC North winners the last 10 years have sort of won by default.
                          Maybe, but the NFC Champions from 2008 came from the NFC West, so...
                          Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                          • #58
                            The Broncos came out this one pretty good... got rid of a whiny bitch for two top picks and don't even have to waste one necessarily to address their QB situation. Orton has at least started in the league ... better scenario than most for them, I think.

                            You still gotta wonder how this one will turn out ... it definitely doesn't help us at all. Not at least until losing those picks comes back to potentially haunt them.

                            And Partial, sometimes I'm convinced you're just out there on the "troll", seein who takes the bait.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mission
                              And Partial, sometimes I'm convinced you're just out there on the "troll", seein who takes the bait.
                              i've believed that for the last three years. its sort of obvious.
                              Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                              • #60
                                Rodgers

                                Originally posted by Lurker64
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Cutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
                                How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?
                                Not that it's significant, but in a poll taken on espn, the rest of the country backs Partial's view. Out of which of the 4 young QB's listed, who is better? Rodgers was way behind Ryan, Cutler and I forget the other.

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