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  • #91
    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    Sharpe/Brooks
    Brooks
    Brooks/Freeman
    Freeman
    Freeman/Driver
    Driver
    Driver/Walker
    Driver/Jennings

    These are notable #1/#2 WR's Favre has played with over the years. He's always had at least one probowl caliber WR, sometimes two on eveyr team he's played.
    LOL Are you serious? This is downright comical!

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Partial
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
      Sharpe/Brooks
      Brooks
      Brooks/Freeman
      Freeman
      Freeman/Driver
      Driver
      Driver/Walker
      Driver/Jennings

      These are notable #1/#2 WR's Favre has played with over the years. He's always had at least one probowl caliber WR, sometimes two on eveyr team he's played.
      LOL Are you serious? This is downright comical!
      Which of these guys AREN'T notable to you. They've all been to a Pro Bowl while playing for Green Bay, as JH said.

      P.S. You forgot about Andre Rison JH. I know he was only here but for a very short time, but Favre did not win any Super Bowls without him.
      Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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      • #93
        Well, well, well. So the Bears landed Cutler. Good for them. We'll see how it all plays out, this season and beyond. I predict that the preseason pundits will all be choosing the Bears and Queens for the title, and listing the Pack as the third place team in the division. So we'll see.

        As for the Pack, with Denver now loaded for Bear with draft picks, perhaps if Stafford or Sanchez is sitting there at #9, the Broncos might want to move up from their #12 spot and be willing to give up their second - they'll have two firsts, anyway.

        That way they can start Orton this year and next, let the kid sit and learn, and have him ready to go in 2011.

        I wouldn't mind seeing TT trade down a few spots if he can get a king's ransom in exchange. IF one of the QB's is left when the Pack picks at #9, I think Waldo is right - they might be sitting in the driver's seat.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #94
          I'm not happy that Cutler went to the Bears. He's a solid QB. At this point, he might be slightly overrated, but he has potential to be great. However, for this year it doesn't scare me. To me, the Bears went 8-8 with 6-10 talent. They have too many holes to fill to be a legit contender. Could they win the division? Sure. You have to favor the Vikings at this point, but I'd still say the Packers have a good chance to win it. This year, Cutler isn't enough, but if the Bears can rebuild in the next couple of years, they might actually have a QB that can get them over the top. It's almost surreal. The Bears having a legit starting QB.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #95
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            It's almost surreal. The Bears having a legit starting QB.
            Well, the NFL as we knew it died in January when the Cardinals won the NFC Championship Game. Then Albert Haynesworth got 100 million dollars. Then Terrell Owens signed a 1 year deal with the Buffalo Bills. Then the NFL enacted a rule against forming a wedge on kickoff returns, amongst other things. Now the Bears have a legit starting QB.

            What's next?
            Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Gunakor
              How did our WR's YAC compare to the rest of the league though? That would be figured into Aaron's yards per attempt also, and our guys are pretty damn good at getting YAC. Yards per attempt isn't necessarily the best indicator either.
              Probably pretty good. Have you seen Brandon Marshall play? He's probably a top 5 WR on deep balls. The other guy, Royal, is pretty darn good after the catch. My point wasn't how they did it. Just the fact that Cutler was third in the league in passing yards, but he threw the second most passes. BTW, Rodgers was fourth in the league in passing yards--while being 6th in pass attempts.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #97
                The Bears are now a better team offensively than defensively. The biq question is how much the high price for Cutler will hamper them in rebuilding their defense. Time will tell.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by Gunakor
                  How did our WR's YAC compare to the rest of the league though? That would be figured into Aaron's yards per attempt also, and our guys are pretty damn good at getting YAC. Yards per attempt isn't necessarily the best indicator either.
                  Probably pretty good. Have you seen Brandon Marshall play? He's probably a top 5 WR on deep balls. The other guy, Royal, is pretty darn good after the catch. My point wasn't how they did it. Just the fact that Cutler was third in the league in passing yards, but he threw the second most passes. BTW, Rodgers was fourth in the league in passing yards--while being 6th in pass attempts.
                  Hey, I'm on your side on this one. I was just pointing out that your using yards per attempt isn't necessarily a better indicator of overall performance than others using total yards passing as their measuring stick.
                  Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Gunakor
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    Sharpe/Brooks
                    Brooks
                    Brooks/Freeman
                    Freeman
                    Freeman/Driver
                    Driver
                    Driver/Walker
                    Driver/Jennings

                    These are notable #1/#2 WR's Favre has played with over the years. He's always had at least one probowl caliber WR, sometimes two on eveyr team he's played.
                    LOL Are you serious? This is downright comical!
                    Which of these guys AREN'T notable to you. They've all been to a Pro Bowl while playing for Green Bay, as JH said.

                    P.S. You forgot about Andre Rison JH. I know he was only here but for a very short time, but Favre did not win any Super Bowls without him.
                    The answer to this guestion is if any of these wide receivers experienced any success after they left the Packers or played without Favre? This is a whole can of worms with trying to determine the talent at wide receiver during Favre's time in Green Bay, whether Favre made them into Pro Bowlers, or if they made Favre a better QB than what he actually was. I would have to say that Favre made them better than what they were, I couldn't honestly say that they enlightened Favre's career. There were no Jerry Rice and John Taylor groupings on that list.

                    But still, Favre had some fairly decent receivers in his time in Green Bay, maybe outside the few years when Freeman was falling out of his prime and that guy from Silver Spoons was the #2 wide out.

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                    • Originally posted by Joemailman
                      The Bears are now a better team offensively than defensively. The biq question is how much the high price for Cutler will hamper them in rebuilding their defense. Time will tell.
                      It is pretty tough to go two years in a row without a 1st round draft pick. The Bears have holes at WR and on the offensive line, but they haven't had a pro bowl caliber quarterback since well I will be generous in Jim Harbaugh.

                      Overall, long term I think this is a good move for the Bears.

                      I like Cutler, too bad he has to be a Bear now.

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                      • Originally posted by Gunakor
                        Hey, I'm on your side on this one. I was just pointing out that your using yards per attempt isn't necessarily a better indicator of overall performance than others using total yards passing as their measuring stick.
                        I wasn't actually saying it was. Just a counterpoint to the yards passing mentioned. You have to use all of the stats + other factors to judge a QB.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                          A little scary IMO.

                          We'll see it takes a well rounded team to win, but so many teams struggle to find a QB (the Bears have floundered for years) and now the they have a legit one for many years.
                          Floundered? They went to the playoffs in 05, the superbowl in '06, had a down year filled with injuries in '07, and were better than the Pack last year.

                          Where is the floundering?!?
                          Are you smoking crack asshole? The Packers dominated the Bears for 7 quarters last year and split the series 1-1. We outscored the Bears 54-23.
                          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                          -Tim Harmston

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                          • How about poor Brady Quinn, Im reading a 3way with DC was in the works and Denver nixed it? Or Cleveland. Poor guy has to feel like he's not gonna get a chance to start anywhere.
                            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                            • Originally posted by ThunderDan
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              A little scary IMO.

                              We'll see it takes a well rounded team to win, but so many teams struggle to find a QB (the Bears have floundered for years) and now the they have a legit one for many years.
                              Floundered? They went to the playoffs in 05, the superbowl in '06, had a down year filled with injuries in '07, and were better than the Pack last year.

                              Where is the floundering?!?
                              Are you smoking crack asshole? The Packers dominated the Bears for 7 quarters last year and split the series 1-1. We outscored the Bears 54-23.

                              ah ah ah You're not allowed to question this poster, much less call him names. His mom works here or something, be careful.
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                              • Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                                Originally posted by digitaldean
                                Congrats to the Bears in their pickup.

                                They gave up the farm for him though. Those picks could be used to shore up their aging defense.

                                Getting Pace, Orton and their 2nd yr. RB from Tulane will help their O immensely.

                                But I think that much spent on Capt. Whineypants will hamstring them
                                He whined after he found out is Coach and QB was trying to get rid of him(a probowl QB) behind his back for a one year wonder. Hell, I would of whined too!
                                Its not like a T.O. Name another time where he complained or whined during all the time he was in Denver. If you are found to complaining about something at your job ONE time, do that make you a complainer for the rest of your career?

                                a good read:

                                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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