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Which of these guys AREN'T notable to you. They've all been to a Pro Bowl while playing for Green Bay, as JH said.Originally posted by PartialLOL Are you serious? This is downright comical!Originally posted by JustinHarrellSharpe/Brooks
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Brooks/Freeman
Freeman
Freeman/Driver
Driver
Driver/Walker
Driver/Jennings
These are notable #1/#2 WR's Favre has played with over the years. He's always had at least one probowl caliber WR, sometimes two on eveyr team he's played.
P.S. You forgot about Andre Rison JH. I know he was only here but for a very short time, but Favre did not win any Super Bowls without him.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Well, well, well. So the Bears landed Cutler. Good for them. We'll see how it all plays out, this season and beyond. I predict that the preseason pundits will all be choosing the Bears and Queens for the title, and listing the Pack as the third place team in the division. So we'll see.
As for the Pack, with Denver now loaded for Bear with draft picks, perhaps if Stafford or Sanchez is sitting there at #9, the Broncos might want to move up from their #12 spot and be willing to give up their second - they'll have two firsts, anyway.
That way they can start Orton this year and next, let the kid sit and learn, and have him ready to go in 2011.
I wouldn't mind seeing TT trade down a few spots if he can get a king's ransom in exchange. IF one of the QB's is left when the Pack picks at #9, I think Waldo is right - they might be sitting in the driver's seat."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I'm not happy that Cutler went to the Bears. He's a solid QB. At this point, he might be slightly overrated, but he has potential to be great. However, for this year it doesn't scare me. To me, the Bears went 8-8 with 6-10 talent. They have too many holes to fill to be a legit contender. Could they win the division? Sure. You have to favor the Vikings at this point, but I'd still say the Packers have a good chance to win it. This year, Cutler isn't enough, but if the Bears can rebuild in the next couple of years, they might actually have a QB that can get them over the top. It's almost surreal. The Bears having a legit starting QB."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Well, the NFL as we knew it died in January when the Cardinals won the NFC Championship Game. Then Albert Haynesworth got 100 million dollars. Then Terrell Owens signed a 1 year deal with the Buffalo Bills. Then the NFL enacted a rule against forming a wedge on kickoff returns, amongst other things. Now the Bears have a legit starting QB.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersIt's almost surreal. The Bears having a legit starting QB.
What's next?Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Probably pretty good. Have you seen Brandon Marshall play? He's probably a top 5 WR on deep balls. The other guy, Royal, is pretty darn good after the catch. My point wasn't how they did it. Just the fact that Cutler was third in the league in passing yards, but he threw the second most passes. BTW, Rodgers was fourth in the league in passing yards--while being 6th in pass attempts.Originally posted by GunakorHow did our WR's YAC compare to the rest of the league though? That would be figured into Aaron's yards per attempt also, and our guys are pretty damn good at getting YAC. Yards per attempt isn't necessarily the best indicator either."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The Bears are now a better team offensively than defensively. The biq question is how much the high price for Cutler will hamper them in rebuilding their defense. Time will tell.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Hey, I'm on your side on this one. I was just pointing out that your using yards per attempt isn't necessarily a better indicator of overall performance than others using total yards passing as their measuring stick.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersProbably pretty good. Have you seen Brandon Marshall play? He's probably a top 5 WR on deep balls. The other guy, Royal, is pretty darn good after the catch. My point wasn't how they did it. Just the fact that Cutler was third in the league in passing yards, but he threw the second most passes. BTW, Rodgers was fourth in the league in passing yards--while being 6th in pass attempts.Originally posted by GunakorHow did our WR's YAC compare to the rest of the league though? That would be figured into Aaron's yards per attempt also, and our guys are pretty damn good at getting YAC. Yards per attempt isn't necessarily the best indicator either.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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The answer to this guestion is if any of these wide receivers experienced any success after they left the Packers or played without Favre? This is a whole can of worms with trying to determine the talent at wide receiver during Favre's time in Green Bay, whether Favre made them into Pro Bowlers, or if they made Favre a better QB than what he actually was. I would have to say that Favre made them better than what they were, I couldn't honestly say that they enlightened Favre's career. There were no Jerry Rice and John Taylor groupings on that list.Originally posted by GunakorWhich of these guys AREN'T notable to you. They've all been to a Pro Bowl while playing for Green Bay, as JH said.Originally posted by PartialLOL Are you serious? This is downright comical!Originally posted by JustinHarrellSharpe/Brooks
Brooks
Brooks/Freeman
Freeman
Freeman/Driver
Driver
Driver/Walker
Driver/Jennings
These are notable #1/#2 WR's Favre has played with over the years. He's always had at least one probowl caliber WR, sometimes two on eveyr team he's played.
P.S. You forgot about Andre Rison JH. I know he was only here but for a very short time, but Favre did not win any Super Bowls without him.
But still, Favre had some fairly decent receivers in his time in Green Bay, maybe outside the few years when Freeman was falling out of his prime and that guy from Silver Spoons was the #2 wide out.
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It is pretty tough to go two years in a row without a 1st round draft pick. The Bears have holes at WR and on the offensive line, but they haven't had a pro bowl caliber quarterback since well I will be generous in Jim Harbaugh.Originally posted by JoemailmanThe Bears are now a better team offensively than defensively. The biq question is how much the high price for Cutler will hamper them in rebuilding their defense. Time will tell.
Overall, long term I think this is a good move for the Bears.
I like Cutler, too bad he has to be a Bear now.
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I wasn't actually saying it was. Just a counterpoint to the yards passing mentioned. You have to use all of the stats + other factors to judge a QB.Originally posted by GunakorHey, I'm on your side on this one. I was just pointing out that your using yards per attempt isn't necessarily a better indicator of overall performance than others using total yards passing as their measuring stick."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Are you smoking crack asshole? The Packers dominated the Bears for 7 quarters last year and split the series 1-1. We outscored the Bears 54-23.Originally posted by PartialFloundered? They went to the playoffs in 05, the superbowl in '06, had a down year filled with injuries in '07, and were better than the Pack last year.Originally posted by JustinHarrellA little scary IMO.
We'll see it takes a well rounded team to win, but so many teams struggle to find a QB (the Bears have floundered for years) and now the they have a legit one for many years.
Where is the floundering?!?But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Originally posted by ThunderDanAre you smoking crack asshole? The Packers dominated the Bears for 7 quarters last year and split the series 1-1. We outscored the Bears 54-23.Originally posted by PartialFloundered? They went to the playoffs in 05, the superbowl in '06, had a down year filled with injuries in '07, and were better than the Pack last year.Originally posted by JustinHarrellA little scary IMO.
We'll see it takes a well rounded team to win, but so many teams struggle to find a QB (the Bears have floundered for years) and now the they have a legit one for many years.
Where is the floundering?!?
ah ah ah You're not allowed to question this poster, much less call him names. His mom works here or something, be careful.Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
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Originally posted by DabaddestbearHe whined after he found out is Coach and QB was trying to get rid of him(a probowl QB) behind his back for a one year wonder. Hell, I would of whined too!Originally posted by digitaldeanCongrats to the Bears in their pickup.
They gave up the farm for him though. Those picks could be used to shore up their aging defense.
Getting Pace, Orton and their 2nd yr. RB from Tulane will help their O immensely.
But I think that much spent on Capt. Whineypants will hamstring them
Its not like a T.O. Name another time where he complained or whined during all the time he was in Denver. If you are found to complaining about something at your job ONE time, do that make you a complainer for the rest of your career?
a good read:
Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
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