wow! finally something to talk about. bears will be much better now. more points and just as important, more first downs. this means their d won't be on the field as much and it will be even better. they gave up a lot but it'll be worth it.
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Number 3 in passing the past two years in the NFL with absolutely no running game. --over 4,457 yards just last year with a QB rating of 86.0.Originally posted by The Shadow"Without a doubt"??? Better than Rodgers??Originally posted by PartialCutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.Originally posted by DabaddestbearI am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.Originally posted by sheepsheadThe bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.
And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
Evidence?
Only Peyton Manning and Brees threw for more.
13-1 when his team keeps the opposing team from scoring no more than 21.
And for those that say he wasnt able to come thru in the clutch...it was the Denvers defense that was one of the worst in the NFL that lost most those games, not Cutler.
Rodgers was the better QB in the NFC north until Cutler was signed. No one outside a Packer fan would say Rodgers is better than Cutler.
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This is just another example of a GM rolling the dice. Everyone knew, including Angelo that the Bears were dead without a good QB. Whether it fails or leads them to the promised land, you have to admire a GM who takes that chance. It's called having a set. Our GM was neutered long ago....
The landscape in the NFC North just changed a whole bunch. Both the Vikes and Bears have made HUGE moves. The Vikes with Allen last season and the Bears just now.
But, don't worry Pack fans. We have lot's of money to re-sign all our studs...........
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Yes, I am sure that is what most of you will be saying. But like I said in an earlier post, the Bears WR's would get open deep alot, Orton just would always over throw or under throw them.... He missed Hester several times deep wide open. That will not happen with Cutler.Originally posted by BallboyYeah, Cutler will be great throwing the ball to...umm.....ahhhh....well....yeah.....
Yes he will be great doing what Im not sure
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I'm not being a complete smart ass about this. Eli Manning is a good example of a sulky little putz with no apparent leadership skills who grew a pair and turned into a good QB.Originally posted by GunakorImagine where that attitude will take him in the short term. Nobody to throw to except a TE, and little protection up front to keep him standing upright.Originally posted by DonHutsonThis development does not worry me very much at all.
I guess it's possible that Cutler's current sulky-hyper-sensitive-whiny-bitch act is just a phase that he'll outgrow... but I tend to think not, so good luck with all that down there.
I can't wait for the season to start.
For now, I'll take solace in the fact that those turnarounds are fairly rare.#14
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Rodgers will have 2 opportunities per year to prove that he is. And Cutler will have 2 opportunities per year to prove that he's not. Or vice versa. In any case, both Rodgers and Cutler are pretty damn good, so I'll have to reserve judgement until they square off against one another on the same football field.Originally posted by DabaddestbearNumber 3 in passing the past two years in the NFL with absolutely no running game. --over 4,457 yards just last year with a QB rating of 86.0.Originally posted by The Shadow"Without a doubt"??? Better than Rodgers??Originally posted by PartialCutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.Originally posted by DabaddestbearI am sure we will argue about the 2nd best QB in the division all year, but yes, the second best RB, and by far the best TE.Originally posted by sheepsheadThe bears have the second best QB, second best RB maybe the best tight end in the division. No WR ...yet.
Competition in the North has just got greater fellas.
And by the way, Cutler makes WR's better trust me. Do you know how many times the Bears WR's was under thrown and over thrown last year when they was wide open? I'm smiling regardless of what any Packer fan may say.
Evidence?
Only Peyton Manning and Brees threw for more.
13-1 when his team keeps the opposing team from scoring no more than 21.
And for those that say he wasnt able to come thru in the clutch...it was the Denvers defense that was one of the worst in the NFL that lost most those games, not Cutler.
Rodgers was the better QB in the NFC north until Cutler was signed. No one outside a Packer fan would say Rodgers is better than Cutler.
Or maybe it's just that I've never had to entertain the idea of an NFC North/Central quarterback being better than the one in Green Bay for, what, 20 years?Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Our GM is regarde as rarely doing good with #1 draft picks. So a draft pick is more of a rolling of the dice than a QB that has proven he is a franchise QB. They got a 5th in return and just swaped a average QB for a very good one. Take that any day.I was just glad that we didnt have to give up anyone on our defense like I thought we would have to.Originally posted by RastakNot good news for either of us, you Pack fans.
The only bright spot is they paid through the nose. Two 1's and a 3 AND their starting QB is a kings ransom in this day and age. I guess they'll use their #2 to get some sort of receiver for him to throw to.
If he stays healthy then it may turn out to be a good deal.
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Bad news for Packer fans. This clearly elevates the Bears.
Cutler is similar to Favre with a gun slinging mentality, ability to make big plays but prone to mistakes. Gun for an arm but throws off his back foot.
Should be exciting and keep the rivalry interesting.
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Congrats to the Bears in their pickup.
They gave up the farm for him though. Those picks could be used to shore up their aging defense.
Getting Pace, Orton and their 2nd yr. RB from Tulane will help their O immensely.
But I think that much spent on Capt. Whineypants will hamstring them-digital dean
No "TROLLS" allowed!
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Well, look who emerged after a long hibernation.Originally posted by DabaddestbearOur GM is regarde as rarely doing good with #1 draft picks. So a draft pick is more of a rolling of the dice than a QB that has proven he is a franchise QB. They got a 5th in return and just swaped a average QB for a very good one. Take that any day.I was just glad that we didnt have to give up anyone on our defense like I thought we would have to.Originally posted by RastakNot good news for either of us, you Pack fans.
The only bright spot is they paid through the nose. Two 1's and a 3 AND their starting QB is a kings ransom in this day and age. I guess they'll use their #2 to get some sort of receiver for him to throw to.
If he stays healthy then it may turn out to be a good deal.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!
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Well he didnt do it last year.Originally posted by Lurker64How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?Originally posted by PartialCutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
Like I said Rodgers is a good QB, but there was many times that he just threw short passes and his WR's would make a 7 yard slant pass into a 50 yard gain.
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Hey Shadow, there was nothing to talk about during the offseason. I followed you guys post on here, but there was nothing to talk about as a Bears fan during the offseason until now. Pace and Cutler is now Bears. New ball game ladies and gents.Originally posted by The ShadowWell, look who emerged after a long hibernation.Originally posted by DabaddestbearOur GM is regarde as rarely doing good with #1 draft picks. So a draft pick is more of a rolling of the dice than a QB that has proven he is a franchise QB. They got a 5th in return and just swaped a average QB for a very good one. Take that any day.I was just glad that we didnt have to give up anyone on our defense like I thought we would have to.Originally posted by RastakNot good news for either of us, you Pack fans.
The only bright spot is they paid through the nose. Two 1's and a 3 AND their starting QB is a kings ransom in this day and age. I guess they'll use their #2 to get some sort of receiver for him to throw to.
If he stays healthy then it may turn out to be a good deal.
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brett made a good living throwing to...umm.....ahhhh....well....yeah.....over the years. not saying he's brett but he is quality. when you can get a quality qb you do it.Originally posted by BallboyYeah, Cutler will be great throwing the ball to...umm.....ahhhh....well....yeah.....
Yes he will be great doing what Im not sure
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If your receivers knew how to do that consistently, I'd be a little more worried about you guys this year.Originally posted by DabaddestbearWell he didnt do it last year.Originally posted by Lurker64How many years would Rodgers have to consistently outperform Cutler before you'd be willing to recant this statement?Originally posted by PartialCutler is without a doubt the best QB in the division.
Like I said Rodgers is a good QB, but there was many times that he just threw short passes and his WR's would make a 7 yard slant pass into a 50 yard gain.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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