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Nice!JaRon Harris, WR, South Dakota State (6-1, 200, 4.46) -- according to kffl.com
Father Ron Harris was a seventh-round pick of the Vikings in 1978 as a running back...JaRon grew up a Packers fan...Had 64 catches for 891 yards and 10 touchdowns as a senior."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I'm seeing from at least one source that the Green Bay UDFA list is
I can't verify a lot of these though. The JSO is just reporting Heckendorf, Butler, Simmon, Harris, and Sutton with tryouts for Anderson, Witte, and Lardinois.Packers
WR Andy Brodell (Iowa)
RB Tyrell Sutton (Northwestern)
WR Kole Heckendorf (North Dakota State)
TE Carson Butler (Michigan)
WR Jaron Harris (SDSU)
WR Jamarko Simmons (Western Michigan)
OG Dario Nanni (Stillman Valley)
LB Willie Williams (Union College)
P Kurt Achter (UW-Oshkosh)
I'm also left to wonder, why do undrafted WRs sign here instead of somewhere else with fewer hurdles to jump on the depth chart? Are we really persuasive or something?</delurk>
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JaRon and Kole both grew up Packer fans. Plus, if they do impress in camp, they know other teams will see the film.Originally posted by Lurker64I'm also left to wonder, why do undrafted WRs sign here instead of somewhere else with fewer hurdles to jump on the depth chart? Are we really persuasive or something?
The draft will be the culmination of months of virtual non-stop activity for Heckendorf since the Bisons season ended, which included a pro day workout at the NDSU campus in late March.
With representatives from about a dozen teams in attendance, Heckendorf ran a 4.3 in the 40 meters, did 14 reps on the bench press at 225 pounds and didn't drop a pass in the skills portion.
"It was a fun time, but it was pretty nerve-racking," Heckendorf said. "You have two or three months of your life working out for all these things, and you have one shot to do it.
"It worked out really good. I was happy with my results, but it wasn't easy."
Heckendorf was invited to Green Bay for a predraft workout, and he said it would be a "dream come true" if he were drafted by the Packers."I couldn't have asked for a better story," he told Packer Report on Sunday night. "Small-town Wisconsin kid from a smaller college coming back home to get a chance with the Green Bay Packers. I'm just going to give it all I got."
Heckendorf said four or five teams were pursuing him.
"I've always wanted to be a Packer growing up as a little kid. It's a good fit for me and a good opportunity.""There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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sweet - broke GJs records at w.mich - bet GJ helped get him here.Originally posted by Lurker64Per KFFL:
This is a guy I liked, much better than the other three WRs we signed ( Jaron Harris (SDSU), Andy Brodell (Iowa), Kole Heckendorf (North Dakota State)).The Green Bay Packers have signed undrafted free-agent WR Jamarko Simmons (Western Michigan). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.
I guess we need guys to catch the ball during minicamp drills, but Jamarko might stick.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
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If we keep 6 guys, he just has to beat out Allen, Swain, and Sam (as well as the other UDFAs) and be promising enough to justify a sixth WR slot. Considering he might project well to H-Back, it's not ridiculous.Originally posted by missionwe signed Simmons? hell ya, i just woke up on the couch after crashing out.. good news, i was disappointed when we didnt take him in the 7th..
chances he makes the team ??? slim..
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Ya, good point. If it's close, they'll take the potential guy every time. Not sure how much those other fellas got in 'em.Originally posted by Lurker64If we keep 6 guys, he just has to beat out Allen, Swain, and Sam (as well as the other UDFAs) and be promising enough to justify a sixth WR slot. Considering he might project well to H-Back, it's not ridiculous.Originally posted by missionwe signed Simmons? hell ya, i just woke up on the couch after crashing out.. good news, i was disappointed when we didnt take him in the 7th..
chances he makes the team ??? slim..
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I wonder the same thing. We're stacked at wideout. But we do keep two or three receivers on the practice squad every year, maybe that's why. They show up to camp get on some tape in the first two games. And even if they don't make a roster they just have to make the top eight or so receivers in camp and they get to stick around.Originally posted by Lurker64
I'm also left to wonder, why do undrafted WRs sign here instead of somewhere else with fewer hurdles to jump on the depth chart? Are we really persuasive or something?
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My money is on Andy Brodell. In fact, I'd bet on it. I've been following him for a couple of years. He's big, tough and football fast. Great hands. He's played without the benefit of a great QB or an offense that throws the ball alot. He's great on special teams.Originally posted by TheCheeseHaha that's great that we got Simmons. Him and GJ going to be buddy buddy and you know GJ will take him under his wing. Hopefully one of these new WRs stick. We got a lot of potential here.
He's a player and I'm thrilled the Packers got him. He's going to be the surprise of the preseason.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Didn't the indians kill him yet?Originally posted by oregonpackfanLook at Oregon's Jeremiah Johnson. Though he is undersized for an everydown running back, he is fantastic in the open field on screen passes. He is also a threat as a punt returner.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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We signed some LB named Willie Williams. HUGE character risk, but it sounds like he has immense talent. He was the #1 high school recruit in the country (some say top recruit, this article says top defensive recruit), but he was a thug. Supposedly, he's turned his life around after going to schools in smaller communities--which might be the reason he/his agent decided Green Bay would be the best fit for him. He's a bit undersized, but his numbers were pretty off the charts.
Former top recruit just looking for shot in NFL
By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
Willie Williams likes to say that you’re not supposed to live your life with regrets. He clings to this belief, despite knowing the outside world looks at him and thinks he should have many.
“I don’t look at my life with bitterness,” he says. “I look at it with motivation. This is the bed I made and chose to lay in, so I’m going to have to sleep in it.”
A linebacker who was once widely considered the nation’s best defensive prospect coming out of high school – in the same year Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson was tabbed as the country’s best prep offensive player – Williams is less than a week removed from the NFL draft. But rather than sitting in the green room with other celebrated draft picks in New York City on Saturday, he’ll watch with a small collection of family, eating some modest home cooking and hoping that some team, any team, will give him an opportunity to play in the league. According to his college coaches, at least 17 NFL franchises have shown some level of interest. Whether any of them are willing to go further will be one of this draft’s underrated story lines.
In fact, one NFC personnel man said he expects Williams to go undrafted and that the former prep star will be signed as a free agent.
It’s a humble ending to a five-year college career that took him to a handful of schools: Miami (two seasons, one redshirt before transferring), West Los Angeles Community College (one season), Louisville (three games, ending after an arrest for marijuana possession), Division II Glenville State (one semester, before being denied transfer by the NCAA to the West Virginia school), and finally, tiny NAIA school Union College (one season) in Barbourville, Ky.
Indeed, Williams’ career has been nothing like many projected. Once considered the next great heir to a Miami linebacker lineage that includes Ray Lewis, Dan Morgan, Jonathan Vilma and D.J. Williams, his arrival with the Hurricanes was merely the first stop in a spiral that ended in the NAIA. Along the way, Williams’ painful history became riveting Internet fodder. Websites like Deadspin delighted in his every misstep. Message boards buzzed with each development. Among the lowlights, which Williams openly discusses:
• Eleven arrests in high school, most for petty larceny or burglary.
• A journal in the Miami Herald which spilled wild details of recruiting visits and caught attention from the NCAA.
• A recruiting visit to Florida where Williams discharged fire extinguishers in a hotel and was questioned by police for “hugging a female student against her will.”
• A transfer out of Miami after failing to crack the starting lineup as a true freshman.
• A traffic stop and arrest for marijuana possession at Louisville that ended in his dismissal from the team.
Looking back on it, Williams is apologetic but accepting, saying immaturity and a lack of patience kept him from making good decisions. He admits that he sometimes wonders what could have been had he stayed at Miami, where he expected to bide his time behind eventual first-round pick Jon Beason at outside linebacker. Instead, he succumbed to friends and some family around him, who expected that he would immediately become a college football star.
“At the time, I made the decision that I thought was best,” Williams says. “I felt like Miami wasn’t getting 100 percent. I wasn’t 100 percent focused like I thought I should be, being born and raised in Miami, coming out of high school there.”
So began Williams’ journey, from Miami to West Los Angeles C.C. to Louisville, which accepted him into the school with the understanding that there would be a zero-tolerance policy when it came to behavior. When he was arrested for marijuana possession, with three other individuals in the car, he was immediately dismissed from the team. Williams eventually pled guilty to the arrest, and coaches are quick to point out that the incident has been his only trouble in his five years in college.
A transfer to Division II Glenville State was denied by the NCAA – a problem head coach Alan Fiddler said was a misinterpretation by the school’s compliance department, and not any fault of Williams’. And it was Fiddler who worked the phones and found Williams the landing spot at Union, where Williams arrived eight days before the school’s first game, then went out and became the NAIA’s defensive player of the week after putting up 13 tackles, two sacks and two fumble recoveries. He finished the season with 150 tackles 19½ tackles for a loss and 11½ sacks.
Look anywhere along the journey, and coaches will gush about Williams – regardless of whether he played for them. Fiddler said his Glenville State team couldn’t block Williams in practices. Union coach Tommy Reid calls him the best player he’s ever had in his program. Even Coker, who coached dozens of NFL players at Miami, insists Williams’ talent is unique.
“I think he could have been a great player at Miami, I really do,” said Coker, who is now the head coach at the University of Texas at San Antonio. “He has a lot of ability. He can run, he’s got size, he’s strong, he’s a very good athlete. If he can go into the league, I would think he would have been humbled a little bit by now in his career, if he can just go into the league and [say] ‘Give me a shot, I’ll be on every special teams [unit].’ If that’s the attitude he goes into the league with, I think he could be a special player.”
Whether that shot comes, Coker shrugs. He says he hasn’t been contacted by any NFL teams. However, multiple league scouts traveled to Union to see Williams practice, including the Green Bay Packers, San Francisco 49ers, Denver Broncos and New York Giants. Many others called or asked for film to be sent, including the Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins. The Packers, Browns and 49ers also watched Williams at his pro day, which was held with Eastern Kentucky University.
Williams put up solid numbers in that performance, too. According to the numbers released by the school, he measured in at 6-3½ and 230 pounds, showing the size to be a weakside linebacker in the NFL. He did 26 reps at 225 pounds (one more than Wake Forest’s Aaron Curry), ran his 40-yard dash in the mid-4.5 second range and showcased NFL-caliber agility in the cone drills.
But numbers and workouts and practice visits are a long way from a sure thing. Ultimately, with the current climate in the NFL, it’s just as important that Williams proves he can be trusted. Many of his troubles have been explained away in the media by family and friends – the bad crowd he hung around with in high school, his father’s sudden death from a heart attack when Williams was 12, the unchecked affection and expectations he received as a national football recruit.
Yet, when Williams is asked to spell out his own answers for his issues, he instead chooses to talk about the things that have happened that have changed him for the better. These are things he relates in events: the birth of his daughter, Willaysia, in Jan. 2005; learning of the murder of longtime friend and Miami football player Bryan Pata, who was shot to death in 2006; and finally finding a place at Union, which seems too remote and small – antithesis of everything he knew in Miami. These are things he also wants NFL franchises and fans and onlookers to know.
“I want teams to know that I’m all in, I’m focused, and this is what I want to do with my life,” Williams said. “I look them in the eye and say ‘Yes, you can trust me.’ Five or six years ago, I probably would have looked away a little bit when I answered that. But I definitely learned from all my mistakes. A lot of my past mistakes were so immature. And I’m not blaming it on me being younger or because my dad died and all that. It was my fault. I had to learn from that.”
Coaches are quick to come to his defense, too. Reid said that Union had standard drug screening for its athletes and that Williams never failed a single test in the time he was there. Fiddler said that when Glenville State pushed Williams about his past, he was remorseful and open, admitting that he had made mistakes and that he didn’t want to push the blame anywhere else.
“You have kids come in and act like they’ve never done anything wrong,” Fiddler said. “He didn’t do that.”
Fiddler said Williams was never a behavioral problem, either – a sentiment backed up by Coker.
“We never had a problem with him at Miami. It wasn’t an issue at all with us,” Coker said. “… I’ll tell you what, there’s no doubt about it, he’s a very bright kid. The intelligence factor, that’s not an issue with Willie. I think the thing that was a problem with Willie as a youngster was he was probably a little immature. He was a follower, and it’s one of those things that sometimes many kids do, you want to please those people around you. I think that was tough for Willie.”
Now Williams will have to please some NFL team, proving that his largely unharnessed talent is worth what it will bring in tow. Inevitably, any team that brings him in will be forced to confront the issue of character, and how Williams has proven to them that his is in the right place. And Williams will be forced to re-live the last five years, answering how such a promising start could fall apart so completely.
And while he tries not to live with regret, he admits there is one thing he would change if he could.
“My record,” Williams said. “I’m not lying, I did some really stupid stuff when I was younger.
“All I want is a shot. If I get my foot in the door, I’m going to give 185 percent. I’ll do anything. I’ll help the film men set up and pack up. I’m going to put my all into it. One day, I want to be one of the greats. No matter what it takes. I just want to play. I don’t care if they tell me ‘Willie, we just want you on special teams.’ I’ll say ‘Coach, no problem. I’m going to run down like I’m running a 40 every time, until you tell me to slow down.’”"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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