Report: “Favre Can’t Stand Green Bay”

[Gunakor]

I don't know what I said to you that set you off, but whatever it was, I apologize.

True character right here folks. My hat is off to you Gunakor. I'm truly impressed.

True character is admitting you are wrong when you are. Apologizing for no reason is just stupid.

I'm sorry I said that.

Well, obviously I said something in one of my posts. Nobody goes off on a tirade like that for no reason, at least nobody I've ever met. It had to be something that irked him. My apology was sincere. I didn't mean to get him so upset, and I did. That I don't know how I did it makes no difference, I apologize anyway.

[falco]

Nobody goes off on a tirade like that for no reason, at least nobody I've ever met.

Gunakor, meet packerblues.

Someone set him off a few years ago and he hasn't stopped.

[cpk1994]

Nobody goes off on a tirade like that for no reason, at least nobody I've ever met.

Gunakor, meet packerblues.

Someone set him off a few years ago and he hasn't stopped.

Yeah, it was Ted Thompson.

[PackerBlues]

I don't know what I said to you that set you off, but whatever it was, I apologize.

True character right here folks. My hat is off to you Gunakor. I'm truly impressed.

True character is admitting you are wrong when you are. Apologizing for no reason is just stupid.

I'm sorry I said that.

Well, obviously I said something in one of my posts. Nobody goes off on a tirade like that for no reason, at least nobody I've ever met. It had to be something that irked him. My apology was sincere. I didn't mean to get him so upset, and I did. That I don't know how I did it makes no difference, I apologize anyway.

page six of this thread, you accused me of calling you names and insulting you. Looking at my posts prior to your accusations, I just do not see any insults or name calling directed at you. Perhaps I missed something, or perhaps you misread or interpreted something I said the wrong way.

You were condescending though, and there is no denying it. Wich is when I called you a condescending pric. For that, I apologize, because perhaps I may have misread or misinterpreted what you were saying. You however made the first accusations, not me. My "tirade" was in response to your accusations, so your not exactly innocent here.

You also keep saying that I have said that "I want Brett Favre and the Vikings to beat the Packers". Never said it, so show me where I did. I also never called you "Arrogant". Never said it, so again, show me where I did.

but.......

Apology accepted.

[Gunakor]

page six of this thread, you accused me of calling you names and insulting you. Looking at my posts prior to your accusations, I just do not see any insults or name calling directed at you. Perhaps I missed something, or perhaps you misread or interpreted something I said the wrong way.

You were condescending though, and there is no denying it. Wich is when I called you a condescending pric. For that, I apologize, because perhaps I may have misread or misinterpreted what you were saying. You however made the first accusations, not me. My "tirade" was in response to your accusations, so your not exactly innocent here.

You also keep saying that I have said that "I want Brett Favre and the Vikings to beat the Packers". Never said it, so show me where I did. I also never called you "Arrogant". Never said it, so again, show me where I did.

but.......

Apology accepted.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

Again, this is where it started. On page six, as you said.

This I interpreted as you calling me arrogant. It is the very definition of arrogance. That's how I took it. When I tried to explain myself, when I tried to tell you that it wasn't about me thinking myself superior to you or any other fan, you called me condescending. I wasn't being condescending, I was being polite. I don't think you less a fan than I, just a fan of a different entity. I'd try to politely explain that to you again also, but I fear I might be though of as condescending. So I won't offer an explaination here, but if you'd like one, politely ask me and I will explain it again. If not, I'd rather we just drop it here.

Did I accuse you of something prior to this? Looking back, the only thing I can say I accused you of was supporting Favre more than you'd support the Packers. And then I said that was fine, there was no problem. It doesn't make you less a fan than I. Just different. Remember? I'm sorry if accusing you of being a different fan than I is what started all of this. I honestly didn't see the harm.

[Gunakor]

You also keep saying that I have said that "I want Brett Favre and the Vikings to beat the Packers".

You never said that specifically, and if that's what you had taken away from all of this, then there's where the misinterpretation lies. Brett Favre wants Brett Favre to beat the Packers. It sounded an awful lot like you supported Brett Favre's desire for Brett Favre to beat the Packers. Admittedly, this was also an interpretation. If I got that much wrong, then I'm admittedly that much wrong. But, as a Packer fan, I couldn't support Favre's desire to beat Green Bay any more than I could support Darren Sharpers desire to beat Green Bay or Sage Rosenfels' desire to beat Green Bay or Jay Cutler's desire to beat Green Bay. Similarly, I could never support any fan who does support those players' desire to beat the Packers. That is what your argument sounded like to me. Again, I'm very sorry if I misunderstood that.

[PackerBlues]

page six of this thread, you accused me of calling you names and insulting you. Looking at my posts prior to your accusations, I just do not see any insults or name calling directed at you. Perhaps I missed something, or perhaps you misread or interpreted something I said the wrong way.

You were condescending though, and there is no denying it. Wich is when I called you a condescending pric. For that, I apologize, because perhaps I may have misread or misinterpreted what you were saying. You however made the first accusations, not me. My "tirade" was in response to your accusations, so your not exactly innocent here.

You also keep saying that I have said that "I want Brett Favre and the Vikings to beat the Packers". Never said it, so show me where I did. I also never called you "Arrogant". Never said it, so again, show me where I did.

but.......

Apology accepted.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

Again, this is where it started. On page six, as you said.
This I interpreted as you calling me arrogant. It is the very definition of arrogance. That's how I took it. When I tried to explain myself, when I tried to tell you that it wasn't about me thinking myself superior to you or any other fan, you called me condescending. I wasn't being condescending, I was being polite. I don't think you less a fan than I, just a fan of a different entity. I'd try to politely explain that to you again also, but I fear I might be though of as condescending. So I won't offer an explaination here, but if you'd like one, politely ask me and I will explain it again. If not, I'd rather we just drop it here.

Did I accuse you of something prior to this? Looking back, the only thing I can say I accused you of was supporting Favre more than you'd support the Packers. And then I said that was fine, there was no problem. It doesn't make you less a fan than I. Just different. Remember?

And you dont feel that someone might take offense to that? I dont have to remember, I simply have to look back at page six.....

I'm sorry. I shouldn't be ranting on and on like this with someone who can't look at this situation from a Packers perspective. I realize we'll never come to agreement on this issue, because we are fans of different entities. I wish success for the Packers, even if it means failure for Favre. You wish success for Favre, even if it means failure for the Packers. Which means there's no coming together on this issue. What's the point?

If you dont want to admit that you were being condescending prior to my calling you a condescending pric, thats fine. Blows Retails theory on "true character" all to hell though. Especially when you add up the lies that you still have not addressed.

I'd try to politely explain that to you again also, but I fear I might be falsely accused of saying things that I didnt say. So I won't offer an explaination here, but if you'd like one, politely ask me and I will explain it again. If not, I'd rather we just drop it here.

[Gunakor]

page six of this thread, you accused me of calling you names and insulting you. Looking at my posts prior to your accusations, I just do not see any insults or name calling directed at you. Perhaps I missed something, or perhaps you misread or interpreted something I said the wrong way.

You were condescending though, and there is no denying it. Wich is when I called you a condescending pric. For that, I apologize, because perhaps I may have misread or misinterpreted what you were saying. You however made the first accusations, not me. My "tirade" was in response to your accusations, so your not exactly innocent here.

You also keep saying that I have said that "I want Brett Favre and the Vikings to beat the Packers". Never said it, so show me where I did. I also never called you "Arrogant". Never said it, so again, show me where I did.

but.......

Apology accepted.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

Again, this is where it started. On page six, as you said.
This I interpreted as you calling me arrogant. It is the very definition of arrogance. That's how I took it. When I tried to explain myself, when I tried to tell you that it wasn't about me thinking myself superior to you or any other fan, you called me condescending. I wasn't being condescending, I was being polite. I don't think you less a fan than I, just a fan of a different entity. I'd try to politely explain that to you again also, but I fear I might be though of as condescending. So I won't offer an explaination here, but if you'd like one, politely ask me and I will explain it again. If not, I'd rather we just drop it here.

Did I accuse you of something prior to this? Looking back, the only thing I can say I accused you of was supporting Favre more than you'd support the Packers. And then I said that was fine, there was no problem. It doesn't make you less a fan than I. Just different. Remember?

And you dont feel that someone might take offense to that? I dont have to remember, I simply have to look back at page six.....

I'm sorry. I shouldn't be ranting on and on like this with someone who can't look at this situation from a Packers perspective. I realize we'll never come to agreement on this issue, because we are fans of different entities. I wish success for the Packers, even if it means failure for Favre. You wish success for Favre, even if it means failure for the Packers. Which means there's no coming together on this issue. What's the point?

If you dont want to admit that you were being condescending prior to my calling you a condescending pric, thats fine. Blows Retails theory on "true character" all to hell though. Especially when you add up the lies that you still have not addressed.

I'd try to politely explain that to you again also, but I fear I might be falsely accused of saying things that I didnt say. So I won't offer an explaination here, but if you'd like one, politely ask me and I will explain it again. If not, I'd rather we just drop it here.

That's the third time you've ended one of your posts using the sentence(s) that I used to end my previous post. Who's being condescending?

By the way, read the post above yours. I explained why it is I felt the way I did, and apologized for misinterpreting you once again.

The other quote of mine you used: It's important in any civil discussion to understand the opposing viewpoint, or it will not remain civil for very long. Point and case, this discussion. I had tried to get you to acknowledge that there was in fact a solid basis behind the feelings shared among the Favre detractors. I did not clearly understand your perspective, either, nor did you clearly lay it out there to be understood.

Again, it sounded not only to me but to many other posters like you were in support of the Brett Favre led Minnesota Vikings beating the Aaron Rodgers led Green Bay Packers, because it would prove the point about Thompson that he made a horrible decision - something that you very clearly feel is the case, so it's reasonable to think you'd take that stance on the matter. Now, that wasn't the case, but you weren't clear about that at first. And look where it led. See where I'm coming from? This is why I tried to politely explain each of my posts that you took issue with, for which I was called out by you for taking the high road. You can't make me out to be the bad guy here PB, I was trying to defuse the anger with every single one of my posts. So we disagree. Fine. Goodbye.

[sheepshead]

for what it's worth

Favre Tells Dilfer He Isn’t Coming Back
Posted by Mike Florio on May 4, 2009, 7:19 p.m. EDT

Less than a week after “retired” quarterback Brett Favre said in a statement that he’s still retired “at this time,” Favre offered a less equivocal response to a question from ESPN’s Trent Dilfer regarding whether the all-time leading everything at quarterback might come back in 2009.

“NO,” Favre supposedly said via text.

So why does no one believe it? Heck, even Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com is risking suspension from employment and/or eternal damnation by openly questioning the credibility of Lord Favre.

But here’s the simple reality. Favre has no credibility on this topic. Not because he’s a liar, but because he’s too emotional.

Today, he doesn’t want to play. Tomorrow, he won’t want to play. But chances are that at some point between now and late June, Favre will wake up and decide that he wants to play football in 2009.

Then again, maybe he’s a liar, too. Last year, when he and agent Bus Cook were working behind the scenes to get Favre back to the top of the Packers’ depth chart or unconditionally released, Favre brushed off the reports as “mere rumor” and said, “There’s nothing to it.”

We’re not saying that this means Favre is coming back. We’re only saying that nothing he says about the matter can be believed.

[ThunderDan]

Ok, at least you are quoting the correct post this time.

I have disliked Thompson from day one. It is not a secret in these forums, and it is certainly nothing new. ("Now we all know exactly where you stand".......yeah, u got me there. )
As far as my not giving a rats ass about Favre possibly playing for Minnesota......... I'm not sure how that puts me "squarely in a box where I'm happy for Favre to hurt the Packers". Its even more of a leap to suggest that I am somehow putting a player (Favre?) above the team.

Some really nice hypothetical situations you guys are throwing out there though. I guess if they are the only way to get your point across......

Nice, with the eye roll and the "u got me there."

I wasn't trying to get anything. I just wanted to know how you would respond to that situation.

In my book, given that answer, you are a Favre fan first and a Packer fan second. And that is perfectly fine. It just not how I treat my loyalty to the Packers.

[th87]

The conflicts are simple:

1. Favre is still better than anyone the Vikings have and would make them better. No Packer fan would want the Vikings to be better.

2. Favre was made king of Wisconsin by us. There are people who feel betrayed that he would take that for granted and hurt the team that helped make him a king just to show up his old employer.

[The Shadow]

The conflicts are simple:

1. Favre is still better than anyone the Vikings have and would make them better. No Packer fan would want the Vikings to be better.

2. Favre was made king of Wisconsin by us. There are people who feel betrayed that he would take that for granted and hurt the team that helped make him a king just to show up his old employer.

I may fit into another category.
I'm just glad he's gone & the team can grow again.
If and when he plays is of little consequence now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If and when he plays is of little consequence now.

i agree, some people have mentioned that Favre is carrying "baggage", but I just don't see it. ITs an interesting story if he goes to MN, but I think most of the fire of Favre saga has simmered down. The players and coaches surely don't give a fig.

[Bretsky]

all of this love makes me very happy to not to a mod anymore
It's good to have paco back though; need somebody to balance cpk a bit

[Scott Campbell]

all of this love makes me very happy to not to a mod anymore .......

A sincere thank you for your service. I never heard anyone ever say a bad thing about your handling of that job. I suppose that's about as good a compliment is you can get as a moderator.

Too bad the same can't be said of your draft predictions.