Report: “Favre Can’t Stand Green Bay”

[ThunderDan]

Look, it appears that you are only trying to cause trouble here. I haven't once called you any names, I've only tried - repeatedly - to try and explain why I feel the way I do about the matter. Every response from you has been filled with anger, and you've tried each time to bait me into a hate filled argument I wish no part of. That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with these attacks.

Hmmmm. I went back through all of my posts in this thread, and other than using the word "Drama Queen" in a broad term, I cannot see that I attacked you even once prior to asking you not to be such a condescending pric. Show me where I called you any names or attacked you. While you are at it, show me where I said that I wanted a Favre led Vikings team to beat the Packers.

That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with the condescending attitude.

So the Packers go 11-5, go 6-0 in the division and make the playoffs and you are screaming for TT and MM's heads.

Your answer squarely puts you in a box where you are happy for Favre to hurt the Packers. To me that's putting a player above the team. Now we all know exactly where you stand.

[ThunderDan]

PB-

How about this scenario.

The Packers go 11-5 and beat the Vikings twice. The Vikings finish 12-4. Because Favre "lead" the Vikings to all of those wins against other teams he severly hurts the Packers. In this case the Packers would have to win 3 road games to make it to the Superbowl, that's a lot hard than winning 2 at home.

And before you say that is ridiculous look at the 2008 10-6 Pats.

Well, ok, lets play hypothetical situation. IF Favre were to come out of retirement, and he led the Vikings to a 12-4 record over the Packers 11-5 record, I would feel happy for Favre and disapointed in the Packers.

What is the big deal? Favre is not going to play for GB again, even if he wanted to. So who cares if he plays for another team, even the Vikings?
If Thompson, McCaurthy and Capers do their jobs, it should not be an issue. At all. May the best team win!

I think the main problem about my point of view on this, is simply that people in these forums know damned well that if this hypothetical situation happens, I am going to be one of the first people here calling for Thompson's head. At the very least, I will be calling for McCaurthy's, as I didnt think to highly of him to begin with.
I think all of this is moot anyway since I am pretty damned sure that the Packers are going to have a winning season, due in large part to Capers coaching the Defense.

So the Packers go 11-5, go 6-0 in the division and make the playoffs and you are screaming for TT and MM's heads.

Your answer squarely puts you in a box where you are happy for Favre to hurt the Packers. To me that's putting a player above the team. Now we all know exactly where you stand.

[PackerBlues]

Look, it appears that you are only trying to cause trouble here. I haven't once called you any names, I've only tried - repeatedly - to try and explain why I feel the way I do about the matter. Every response from you has been filled with anger, and you've tried each time to bait me into a hate filled argument I wish no part of. That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with these attacks.

Hmmmm. I went back through all of my posts in this thread, and other than using the word "Drama Queen" in a broad term, I cannot see that I attacked you even once prior to asking you not to be such a condescending pric. Show me where I called you any names or attacked you. While you are at it, show me where I said that I wanted a Favre led Vikings team to beat the Packers.

That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with the condescending attitude.

So the Packers go 11-5, go 6-0 in the division and make the playoffs and you are screaming for TT and MM's heads.

Your answer squarely puts you in a box where you are happy for Favre to hurt the Packers. To me that's putting a player above the team. Now we all know exactly where you stand.

If you are going to try to read into everything I say, and voice your own interpretation of what I say........could you at least take the time to make sure you are quoting the correct post?

[Gunakor]

Look, it appears that you are only trying to cause trouble here. I haven't once called you any names, I've only tried - repeatedly - to try and explain why I feel the way I do about the matter. Every response from you has been filled with anger, and you've tried each time to bait me into a hate filled argument I wish no part of. That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with these attacks.

Hmmmm. I went back through all of my posts in this thread, and other than using the word "Drama Queen" in a broad term, I cannot see that I attacked you even once prior to asking you not to be such a condescending pric. Show me where I called you any names or attacked you. While you are at it, show me where I said that I wanted a Favre led Vikings team to beat the Packers.

That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with the condescending attitude.

This is what started it.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

You called me arrogant without using the word arrogant. And when I tried to explain that I didn't think of myself as a superior fan, you called me condecending.

I have tried, at every possible opportunity, to defuse this. Even if the very first insult that was flung around here was you calling me condecending, that still means you flung the first insult. Even with this post, it is you who seems to like to look down his nose at others. I haven't said anything hostile in this entire thread, and you are calling me names because I don't agree with you and don't support Brett Favre's endeavor. Look at me, I'm still trying to defuse this hostility. What you see as condecending is actually me being even keeled, trying to put an end to this tired hateful argument that I wanted no part of in the first place. Yet, every time I try to be nice, try to be civil, try to take the high road and not stoop to the level of insults and name calling, there you are calling me condecending. Why is it you can't just take what I say at face value, rather than try to decipher a hidden message that doesn't exist?

[PackerBlues]

Look, it appears that you are only trying to cause trouble here. I haven't once called you any names, I've only tried - repeatedly - to try and explain why I feel the way I do about the matter. Every response from you has been filled with anger, and you've tried each time to bait me into a hate filled argument I wish no part of. That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with these attacks.

Hmmmm. I went back through all of my posts in this thread, and other than using the word "Drama Queen" in a broad term, I cannot see that I attacked you even once prior to asking you not to be such a condescending pric. Show me where I called you any names or attacked you. While you are at it, show me where I said that I wanted a Favre led Vikings team to beat the Packers.

That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with the condescending attitude.

This is what started it.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

You called me arrogant without using the word arrogant. And when I tried to explain that I didn't think of myself as a superior fan, you called me condecending.

I have tried, at every possible opportunity, to defuse this. Even if the very first insult that was flung around here was you calling me condecending, that still means you flung the first insult. Even with this post, it is you who seems to like to look down his nose at others. I haven't said anything hostile in this entire thread, and you are calling me names because I don't agree with you and don't support Brett Favre's endeavor. Look at me, I'm still trying to defuse this hostility. What you see as condecending is actually me being even keeled, trying to put an end to this tired hateful argument that I wanted no part of in the first place. Yet, every time I try to be nice, try to be civil, try to take the high road and not stoop to the level of insults and name calling, there you are calling me condecending. Why is it you can't just take what I say at face value, rather than try to decipher a hidden message that doesn't exist?

Hmmmmm...... maybe I shouldn't have used the word "Drama Queen" in such a broad sense.

[ThunderDan]

Well, ok, lets play hypothetical situation. IF Favre were to come out of retirement, and he led the Vikings to a 12-4 record over the Packers 11-5 record, I would feel happy for Favre and disapointed in the Packers.

if this hypothetical situation happens, I am going to be one of the first people here calling for Thompson's head. At the very least, I will be calling for McCaurthy's, as I didnt think to highly of him to begin with.

That isn't exactly what you said?

[ThunderDan]

PB-

How about this scenario.

The Packers go 11-5 and beat the Vikings twice. The Vikings finish 12-4. Because Favre "lead" the Vikings to all of those wins against other teams he severly hurts the Packers. In this case the Packers would have to win 3 road games to make it to the Superbowl, that's a lot hard than winning 2 at home.

And before you say that is ridiculous look at the 2008 10-6 Pats.

Well, ok, lets play hypothetical situation. IF Favre were to come out of retirement, and he led the Vikings to a 12-4 record over the Packers 11-5 record, I would feel happy for Favre and disapointed in the Packers.

What is the big deal? Favre is not going to play for GB again, even if he wanted to. So who cares if he plays for another team, even the Vikings?
If Thompson, McCaurthy and Capers do their jobs, it should not be an issue. At all. May the best team win!

I think the main problem about my point of view on this, is simply that people in these forums know damned well that if this hypothetical situation happens, I am going to be one of the first people here calling for Thompson's head. At the very least, I will be calling for McCaurthy's, as I didnt think to highly of him to begin with.
I think all of this is moot anyway since I am pretty damned sure that the Packers are going to have a winning season, due in large part to Capers coaching the Defense.

So the Packers go 11-5, go 6-0 in the division and make the playoffs and you are screaming for TT and MM's heads.

Your answer squarely puts you in a box where you are happy for Favre to hurt the Packers. To me that's putting a player above the team. Now we all know exactly where you stand.

I state again given the above post.

[PackerBlues]

PB-

How about this scenario.

The Packers go 11-5 and beat the Vikings twice. The Vikings finish 12-4. Because Favre "lead" the Vikings to all of those wins against other teams he severly hurts the Packers. In this case the Packers would have to win 3 road games to make it to the Superbowl, that's a lot hard than winning 2 at home.

And before you say that is ridiculous look at the 2008 10-6 Pats.

Well, ok, lets play hypothetical situation. IF Favre were to come out of retirement, and he led the Vikings to a 12-4 record over the Packers 11-5 record, I would feel happy for Favre and disapointed in the Packers.

What is the big deal? Favre is not going to play for GB again, even if he wanted to. So who cares if he plays for another team, even the Vikings?
If Thompson, McCaurthy and Capers do their jobs, it should not be an issue. At all. May the best team win!

I think the main problem about my point of view on this, is simply that people in these forums know damned well that if this hypothetical situation happens, I am going to be one of the first people here calling for Thompson's head. At the very least, I will be calling for McCaurthy's, as I didnt think to highly of him to begin with.
I think all of this is moot anyway since I am pretty damned sure that the Packers are going to have a winning season, due in large part to Capers coaching the Defense.

So the Packers go 11-5, go 6-0 in the division and make the playoffs and you are screaming for TT and MM's heads.

Your answer squarely puts you in a box where you are happy for Favre to hurt the Packers. To me that's putting a player above the team. Now we all know exactly where you stand.

I state again given the above post.

Ok, at least you are quoting the correct post this time.

I have disliked Thompson from day one. It is not a secret in these forums, and it is certainly nothing new. ("Now we all know exactly where you stand".......yeah, u got me there. )
As far as my not giving a rats ass about Favre possibly playing for Minnesota......... I'm not sure how that puts me "squarely in a box where I'm happy for Favre to hurt the Packers". Its even more of a leap to suggest that I am somehow putting a player (Favre?) above the team.

Some really nice hypothetical situations you guys are throwing out there though. I guess if they are the only way to get your point across......

[Scott Campbell]

I have disliked Thompson from day one.

Yeah, I noticed.

Anyway, sometimes I think that may influence how you view individual moves. I think its hard to be objective when you dislike someone that strongly.

[PackerBlues]

I have disliked Thompson from day one.

Yeah, I noticed.

Anyway, sometimes I think that may influence how you view individual moves. I think its hard to be objective when you dislike someone that strongly.

Very true SC. But my dislike of Thompson has not stopped me from admitting that he has the team going in the right direction, or from stating that I think getting Capers was pure genius on his part. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons I dislike Thompson, anyone needing to be refreshed on my opinions can check out my previous posts at any time. (Most of my earliest posts were full of piss and vinegar. Since then I have tried to keep my emotions in check, and tried to be a little more sympathetic to other peoples points of view. Still working on that . I still however challenge Gun to point out where it was that I attacked him or called him names.)

The story of Favre and Thompson will always be a part of the Packers history. It is a story that none of us knows all of the facts on as of yet, and we can only speculate for now. Personally, I hope I live long enough to read the books that the two of em are bound to write someday on their versions of what went down in GB during their time there together.

Sorry if I find all of the hypothetical situations being hashed out in this thread a little funny, but Favre has not even come out of retirement, and people here are bashing him for it. Think about that for a second.... bashing a guy for something he has not even done. Nice.

[Gunakor]

Look, it appears that you are only trying to cause trouble here. I haven't once called you any names, I've only tried - repeatedly - to try and explain why I feel the way I do about the matter. Every response from you has been filled with anger, and you've tried each time to bait me into a hate filled argument I wish no part of. That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with these attacks.

Hmmmm. I went back through all of my posts in this thread, and other than using the word "Drama Queen" in a broad term, I cannot see that I attacked you even once prior to asking you not to be such a condescending pric. Show me where I called you any names or attacked you. While you are at it, show me where I said that I wanted a Favre led Vikings team to beat the Packers.

That you've interpreted each post as an attack on you personally is not my problem, just know that I meant no disrespect in any of them. So again, please, stop with the condescending attitude.

This is what started it.

Again, you seem to think of yourself as a superior fan, because of our differing opinions. I guess some people just like looking for excuses to look down their noses at others.

You called me arrogant without using the word arrogant. And when I tried to explain that I didn't think of myself as a superior fan, you called me condecending.

I have tried, at every possible opportunity, to defuse this. Even if the very first insult that was flung around here was you calling me condecending, that still means you flung the first insult. Even with this post, it is you who seems to like to look down his nose at others. I haven't said anything hostile in this entire thread, and you are calling me names because I don't agree with you and don't support Brett Favre's endeavor. Look at me, I'm still trying to defuse this hostility. What you see as condecending is actually me being even keeled, trying to put an end to this tired hateful argument that I wanted no part of in the first place. Yet, every time I try to be nice, try to be civil, try to take the high road and not stoop to the level of insults and name calling, there you are calling me condecending. Why is it you can't just take what I say at face value, rather than try to decipher a hidden message that doesn't exist?

Hmmmmm...... maybe I shouldn't have used the word "Drama Queen" in such a broad sense.

There you go again with the insults. What pleasure do you get out of this? Why continue to post if your only intention is to rile up the other posters? Whatever, it doesn't matter anyway. I'm done. I don't know what I said to you that set you off, but whatever it was, I apologize.

[Gunakor]

(I still however challenge Gun to point out where it was that I attacked him or called him names.)

I did. You called me arrogant. Then you called me condescending when I politely tried to explain myself. Your response to that, once I told you what it was, was to call me a drama queen. So that's 3 times you've attacked me now.

Where have I attacked you during this whole deal that set you off on me in the first place?

[retailguy]

I don't know what I said to you that set you off, but whatever it was, I apologize.

True character right here folks. My hat is off to you Gunakor. I'm truly impressed.

[falco]

I don't know what I said to you that set you off, but whatever it was, I apologize.

True character right here folks. My hat is off to you Gunakor. I'm truly impressed.

True character is admitting you are wrong when you are. Apologizing for no reason is just stupid.

I'm sorry I said that.

[Scott Campbell]

The story of Favre and Thompson will always be a part of the Packers history. It is a story that none of us knows all of the facts on as of yet, and we can only speculate for now.

I really don't know what else we need to know. Regardless of how you feel about Ted, Rodgers is their future at QB. At some point they needed to make the move. The way the 2 of them played last year, it looks like Ted had the timing about right. He's shown an uncanny (and unemotional) knack for knowing when to part with veterans - ie Will Henderson, Ahman Green and Brett. And one day it will be Driver and Harris.

I get that you'd get a huge chuckle out of Brett making Ted look bad. I really do. But I think its unrealistic for you to expect that concept to receive a warm reception here.