FAVRE TO HAVE SURGERY

[ThunderDan]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

[ThunderDan]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

Actual the Jets defense was even better. If I am reading the NFL website correctly the Jets offense had 7 turnovers that were returned for touchdowns, tied for the most in the league with the Rams. That would lower the Jets defensive average to 19.2 ppg.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

For God's sake, packerarcher, stay down. Stay down.

[Packerarcher]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

Actual the Jets defense was even better. If I am reading the NFL website correctly the Jets offense had 7 turnovers that were returned for touchdowns, tied for the most in the league with the Rams. That would lower the Jets defensive average to 19.2 ppg.

Hate to tell you but I watched EVERY Jets game and the D fucked up at VERY crucial times. But your stats don't tell you that do they. Yes Brett also played very badly,but all the blame is not his.

[Bossman641]

For God's sake, packerarcher, stay down. Stay down.

Come on Ty. With beliefs such as these..

I don't care that Brett may have had different rules in GB than other players. I don't care that Rodgers may have walked,imo he will be an avg at best player. The org owed it to Favre to let him act any way he wanted.

you can't let little things like logic slow you down.

[Bossman641]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

Actual the Jets defense was even better. If I am reading the NFL website correctly the Jets offense had 7 turnovers that were returned for touchdowns, tied for the most in the league with the Rams. That would lower the Jets defensive average to 19.2 ppg.

Hate to tell you but I watched EVERY Jets game and the D fucked up at VERY crucial times. But your stats don't tell you that do they. Yes Brett also played very badly,but all the blame is not his.

And the Packer D didn't?

[ThunderDan]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

Actual the Jets defense was even better. If I am reading the NFL website correctly the Jets offense had 7 turnovers that were returned for touchdowns, tied for the most in the league with the Rams. That would lower the Jets defensive average to 19.2 ppg.

Hate to tell you but I watched EVERY Jets game and the D fucked up at VERY crucial times. But your stats don't tell you that do they. Yes Brett also played very badly,but all the blame is not his.

How did the Jets defense "fucked up" against Seattle? They held Seattle to 13 points, 295 total yards and 2/12 on 3rd down attempts. They even got 2 turnovers from the Seahag's offense.

That game clinches the playoffs for the Jets if they win I believe. But the Jets score 3 against the Seahags and after the Jets first drive of the game can only muster 187 yards on 9 possesions not counting the one that ended the half.

The Jets scored 3 points against a team that gave up over 24 points a game and 375 yards per game.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The Jets defense really "fucked up" in the miami game, only allowing 17 points. Pretty freaking good considering that Favre tossed 3 ints...including one returned for a td.

Jet defense really fucked up against San Fran. Brett threw for 137 yards and no tds (rushed for 1).

[Partial]

The Jets defense really "fucked up" in the miami game, only allowing 17 points. Pretty freaking good considering that Favre tossed 3 ints...including one returned for a td.

Jet defense really fucked up against San Fran. Brett threw for 137 yards and no tds (rushed for 1).

LOL, yet the Packers defense gives up 21, 19, etc and they blow it. Also, the offense scores one TD during the game, and the defense blows it

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The Jets defense really "fucked up" in the miami game, only allowing 17 points. Pretty freaking good considering that Favre tossed 3 ints...including one returned for a td.

Jet defense really fucked up against San Fran. Brett threw for 137 yards and no tds (rushed for 1).

LOL, yet the Packers defense gives up 21, 19, etc and they blow it. Also, the offense scores one TD during the game, and the defense blows it

We arent' discussing the packers. We are discussing the "fucked up" jets defense.

Try and follow along.

[Joemailman]

I interrupt this fascinating thread about the Jets defense to ask, "What the hell does this have to do with Favre having surgery?"

[Scott Campbell]

The org owed it to Favre to let him act any way he wanted.

No, they did not. You thought they did, but you are wrong.

[Scott Campbell]

Well I can see things haven't changed much. Why does all the Brett Favre talk always bring out the retards? Brett was the greatest QB to ever play for the Packers. But now he is joining the enemy, and he'll be rooted against with passion from this diehard Packers fan. I agree with Ty, Brett is bound for another 20+ ints. He is no savior, just a quarterback at the end of his career with just a little magic left in the tank and a lot age starting to show. Go back and watch the last 5 Jets games. Favre was horrendous, the Jets played scrubs and they still tanked down the stretch. I for one welcome Favre back in to the league to join the Queens. It'll bring so much more excitement to this season that the memories will last for a long time.

If anyone thinks Favre is going to lead the Vikings to the promised land they need to wake up and join reality. Sadly one of my favorite childhood football players is becoming washed up just as I remember Montana with the Chiefs(he was more successful mind you). I can't wait to watch Favre play again(IF he does) but I am a diehard Packer fan, and will never, ever, cheer for the enemy.

You should really look in the mirror before calling others retards. How come it is ok to blame the Packers shitty year last year on piss poor D and not Rodgers. Yet the Jets D was HORRENDUS the last half of the season last year and it's all Favres fault. How the fuck is that any different?

Actual before you start spewing "facts" you better make sure you are correct.

The NY Jets defense gave up 21.1 points per game over the last 8 games.
The NY Jets defense gave up 23.3 ppg over the first 8 games.

They were 18th in the league in ppg which is middle of the pack.
The Jets defense improved by almost a field goal a game.

Ha. You Patler'd him!

Nice.

[Merlin]

For the Favre crowd, how long do his past accomplishments overshadow and excuse his current behavior?

Indefinitely. You forget, he's the best player we've EVER had. That's a lot of success to be overshadowed by something as silly as vengence. Favre has earned the right to act this way to get his revenge. How does one earn the right to act this way? Why, by being a good football player, of course. If Jason Hunter or KGB vowed revenge against the Packers, no Packer fan in their right mind would support that. But this isn't Jason Hunter or KGB. It's BRETT FAVRE. He gets a special exemption, because he was a pretty good football player.

Anyone know where a Packer fan could go to buy a Brett Favre the Viking fathead to plaster on his Packer room wall?

GUNKOR!!! HE"S NOT A FUCKING PACKER ANYMORE! HE WONT BE UNTIL HES ALL RETIRED UP FOR GOOD AND TT IS GONE!!!! HE HAS ANY FUCKING RIGHT TO WANT TO PLAY FOR THE VIKINGS AND BEAT THE PACKERS!!! HE HAS THAT RIGHT!!!! DO YOU GET THAT?????? HE CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO DO... ANYTHING!!! IF HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE VIKINGS, CHEEER AGAINST HIM BECAUSE YOU ARE A PACKERS FAN!!!!! BUT FOR THE LOVE OF RYAN SEACREST SHUT THE FUCK UP, ALL OF YOU, ABOUT HIM BETRAYING YOU! ITS A FUCKING TEAM THAT YOU SUPPORT THAT MOOOOOOOVED ON FROM HIM... HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS NOW, MY GOD GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you..

1. Drink some Sanka and calm down.

2. Of course he can play for the Vikings. Not a problem. That not the issue which you clearly don't get. The point I think that Gunakor is trying to make is that some fans(as you have repeatedly done) excuse the childsh, immature, unprofessional, and bush league behavior and continue to play the "You can't hate on Brett Favre becuase of what he has done for 16 years" card, basically refusing to see anything wrong with the way Brett acted. Also, the fact is is that the only reason Brett really wants to comeback is to play for the Vikings so in his warped mind "can kick Thompson's ass", which by an extension means he wants to kick the Green Bay Packers ass. Do you actually think people are going to be happy that a guy who played for their team for 16 years and once talkked about never play for any other team, now wants to play for the sworn enemy just becuase he is bitter? If he was just coming back for the love of the game, we are having a whole different conversation. But, thats not the way Favre rolls right now.

It should be also pointed out that if those that feel betrayed are to move on, then those that rubbed Favre's success last year, and potentially this year, in other Packer fans faces need to stop and move on. Those that continually trashed TT becuase Favre no longer wears the green and gold, need to stop and move on(I am looking at you). The people who trash Arron Rodgers because they blame him for Favre no longer being in GB have to stop and move on(The scrimmage game is a good illustration).

People are going to be angry for a long time. Favre is no longer a beloved by the majority figure(70% favor the Packers in this situation last poll) anymore. If you don't like it, That's your problem to deal wiith.

A couple of observations here:

1) Who the hell drinks Sanka anymore?
2) You are making the assumption Favre wants to "stick it" to Thompson. I don't recall those words coming out of his mouth, I do recall him stating he wants to play and win a Super Bowl, which brings me to my last point:

Anyone who bashes Thompson & Rodgers for the Favre debacle needs to move on? Apparently you feel that you putting in your two cents is OK, but anyone who disagrees with you needs to "move on". WOW....Dude, you really need to read what you write before you post it unless you think being a hypocrite is fashionable.

Anyone who disagrees with you is automatically wrong, we get it. No one else is allowed to have their own opinion, we get it. Your input into this matter (or any matter) is not constructive and usually never is. You do nothing but insight negativity and show nothing but disdain for your fellow Packer Fans. I feel really sorry for you, seriously I do. Anyone with that much pent up anger needs help that no one on a message board is going to be able to provide.

Perhaps you need to give up Sanka?

[Gunakor]

2) You are making the assumption Favre wants to "stick it" to Thompson.

"Part of me came back for the wrong reasons."

It's not an assumption, he actually said that.