VICK DA GREAT

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whose idea was it to give this cat SO much power anyway??

the more i think about it, there needs to be a system of checks and balances.....goddell has far too much power and i blieve (like the two live stews state) the players cant think its fair

even judges in the court system hear arguments from both sides before making a ruling

i suggest there be a panel that goddell consults before handing out punishment...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

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Re: VICK DA GREAT

[quote="Gunakor"] He spent a year and a half in a federal prison, something most of us who want him banned for life have not experienced.

wow, Gun u want him banned for life?! i guessed right...

[SkinBasket]

whose idea was it to give this cat SO much power anyway??

the more i think about it, there needs to be a system of checks and balances.....goddell has far too much power and i blieve (like the two live stews state) the players cant think its fair

even judges in the court system hear arguments from both sides before making a ruling

i suggest there be a panel that goddell consults before handing out punishment...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I suggest the players live up to the code of conduct, their contractual obligations, and maybe even consider being decent human beings.

Where hasn't Goodell "heard both sides of the argument?" In fact, he's heard more than both sides, he's also heard the side that doesn't exist when Vick lied to his face.

[Scott Campbell]

...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I think they should all be Asian. Let's play this thing out on a neutral court.

[pbmax]

Vick was suspended by the NFL only after he entered his guilty plea, and admitting that he funded the gambling part of the operation. That alone could have earned a lifetime ban for him. Don't forget, while awaiting sentencing, he also failed a drug test, testing positive for marijuana. Throw this on top of circumstantial situations of Vick's truck being used by men arrested for distributing marijuana, and a couple other situations alleged but not proven, I think the NFL is justified in a cautious approach to reinstatement.

Football has a different tradition in dealing with gambling allegations than baseball. Karras and Hornung as prime examples. I do think that might be the second most damning thing here.

I forgot about the positive drug test. Assuming he was not in the program before, he is in stage 1 now. That should definitely be a part of the NFL's calculus about his suspension. And keep in mind, we are assuming Vick meets the requirements the Commish laid down. But there is no guarantee that Goodell approves him after Week 5.

[pbmax]

...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I think they should all be Asian. Let's play this thing out on a neutral court.

You are stepping into another stereotype problem there, Scott. Unless that was intentional, then take a dollar from petty cash.

[Patler]

whose idea was it to give this cat SO much power anyway??

the more i think about it, there needs to be a system of checks and balances.....goddell has far too much power and i blieve (like the two live stews state) the players cant think its fair

even judges in the court system hear arguments from both sides before making a ruling

i suggest there be a panel that goddell consults before handing out punishment...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

Gee, Mobb, wasn't this enough for you?

"Roger listened to ownership, NFL employees, friends, relatives, players, counselors, people from animal rights groups. In his typical fashion, he sought input and listened to all before acting."

Obviously, just an arbitrary decision from Goodell.

[MadScientist]

...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I think they should all be Asian. Let's play this thing out on a neutral court.

So he would be suspended for playing with his food?

[ThunderDan]

whose idea was it to give this cat SO much power anyway??

the more i think about it, there needs to be a system of checks and balances.....goddell has far too much power and i blieve (like the two live stews state) the players cant think its fair

even judges in the court system hear arguments from both sides before making a ruling

i suggest there be a panel that goddell consults before handing out punishment...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

If I was a player I would have lobbied Goddell to suspend him for a year. Vick brings bad publicity to the game and hurts the owners and players chance of making money.

My prediction is that whoever signs Vick will feel a lot of pressure. People will call the local FOX/NBC/cable TV advertisors and say if they air commercials during the game that they will boycot their business.

What business wants to be associated with a dog abuser/killer?

[Scott Campbell]

...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I think they should all be Asian. Let's play this thing out on a neutral court.

You are stepping into another stereotype problem there, Scott. Unless that was intentional, then take a dollar from petty cash.

I was trying intentionally to be more ridiculous than MOBB.

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over half of the people responding to an espn poll voted that they feel Vicks suspension is too harsh

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...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

I think they should all be Asian. Let's play this thing out on a neutral court.

rofl

[Scott Campbell]

over half of the people responding to an espn poll voted that they feel Vicks suspension is too harsh

I will not tell an inappropriate joke.
I will not tell an inappropriate joke.
I will not tell an inappropriate joke.

[ThunderDan]

over half of the people responding to an espn poll voted that they feel Vicks suspension is too harsh

Technically speaking, he could be reinstated before the season starts.

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whose idea was it to give this cat SO much power anyway??

the more i think about it, there needs to be a system of checks and balances.....goddell has far too much power and i blieve (like the two live stews state) the players cant think its fair

even judges in the court system hear arguments from both sides before making a ruling

i suggest there be a panel that goddell consults before handing out punishment...and i feel that the panel should be made of AT LEAST half black folk like dungy and art shell

Gee, Mobb, wasn't this enough for you?

"Roger listened to ownership, NFL employees, friends, relatives, players, counselors, people from animal rights groups. In his typical fashion, he sought input and listened to all before acting."

Obviously, just an arbitrary decision from Goodell.

im not talking about the vick case in a vacuum; i just think his approach in general has been dictatorial

im not alone in this line of thinking and ive heard several talking heads concur