Nelson or Jones

[SkinBasket]

Jordy Nelson has the draft position

I know whenever I catch a football, I just recall my draft position and it seems to fall into my hands.

[Scott Campbell]

For all the hype about Jordy's speed and play making capability, I didn't see him get great separation on most of his routes. He looked like a crafty good hands guy to me.

[rbaloha1]

For all the hype about Jordy's speed and play making capability, I didn't see him get great separation on most of his routes. He looked like a crafty good hands guy to me.

So what is the point? Jordy does not have stopwatch speed (4.52 in the 40 I believe Jones is around 4.62 I believe) but football speed. Recall Jordy making some big plays on double moves.

[Scott Campbell]

For all the hype about Jordy's speed and play making capability, I didn't see him get great separation on most of his routes. He looked like a crafty good hands guy to me.

So what is the point? Jordy does not have stopwatch speed (4.52 in the 40 I believe Jones is around 4.62 I believe) but football speed. Recall Jordy making some big plays on double moves.

I guess my point is that I don't think the he has the tools to become a #1. We passed on Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson, and those guys look like they could become legit #1's.

[The Leaper]

I really like Jones...and he should really be able to put everything together this season.

I think both guys can be starting caliber WRs in the NFL. Jones has the size to be a major threat on 3rd downs and in the redzone. I also like him in the slot with his size...3rd and 4th string DBs would get abused by him.

Nelson has the sneaky speed and hands...he needs a little more polish at this point, but with Robinson coaching him up he will get there in time.

As Driver declines, you will see both of these guys step up IMO...and you need both of them because they bring different components to the passing game.

[Scott Campbell]

As Driver declines, you will see both of these guys step up IMO...and you need both of them because they bring different components to the passing game.

I really agree with this. Jones gets good separation deep - despite his 40 time.

[Partial]

Surprised by those numbers. Jones is known for his hands. Very surprised they're that poor.

Stick to your position. Stats mean nothing.

Some stats are more telling than others. It's much harder to come up with an argument for drops than some other stats.

I didn't read the whole thread so I had no idea that list was Harrell provided. My bad.

That said, I didn't see much from Whitey last year. Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but I didn't see a lot of the things others are claiming.

[GrnBay007]

JJ!!

[SnakeLH2006]

Jordy will be the 3rd WR, yet much more upside to JJ. Seen JJ make crazy plays (ala Sterling) and Jordy looks the part as just a guy. Love JJ, yet BS will make Jordy (draft status, politics) the default #3. It's too bad as JJ, when healthy, looks like a helluva NFL WR. Jordy...not saying he can't be, but the jury is out. Haven't seen him do anything to get excited about.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Surprised by those numbers. Jones is known for his hands. Very surprised they're that poor.

Stick to your position. Stats mean nothing.

Some stats are more telling than others. It's much harder to come up with an argument for drops than some other stats.

I didn't read the whole thread so I had no idea that list was Harrell provided. My bad.

That said, I didn't see much from Whitey last year. Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but I didn't see a lot of the things others are claiming.

Stats: And, i'm sure that you will tell us which ones are and which ones aren't...flipping each time to support your position.

Thread: Ok. Maybe you have recognized a flaw. Best not to enter a discussion till you know all the facts.

Whitey: I dont' expect much from rookie WRs. Hard position to learn and to get on the field. You will, if you read back, notice i have said nothing about who was better, who will be better, or jordie's production, future, etc.

Ty watches and waits.

[Cornholio]

James Jones is the more athletically gifted of the 2 and the one who is more apt to get you YAC. That being said, his mental state and not being able to stay healthy are what have really hurt his development in his 1st two seasons. If he can stay healthy and in the right frame of mind it's no contest who the better WR is, IMO.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

James Jones is the more athletically gifted of the 2 and the one who is more apt to get you YAC. That being said, his mental state and not being able to stay healthy are what have really hurt his development in his 1st two seasons. If he can stay healthy and in the right frame of mind it's no contest who the better WR is, IMO.

Based on what?

Jordy holds the Kansas High School State Track Record in Class 3A in the 100m...Jones..nadda.

High School: Jones middling athlete who attends San Jose State. Jordy is second-team all-state selection for all divisions as a senior at both quarterback and defensive back.

Jones did nothing for 3 years in college. Jordy walks on, and by his soph year had 45 catches and 8 tds. The following year..he is on the Biletnikoff watch list.

Jordy is faster. Jordy in college produced more. He is more decorated athlete.

You really don't know shit.

[Partial]

It's absolutely fair to compare a Cali athlete to a Kansas athlete, too, while we're at it with the eye rolling Might as well start comparing some of the oak creek boys to the football players of Florida or Texas...

Jones stayed close to home for school. I really don't have a problem with that and neither should you. That's the only reason he was the more decorated college receiver. That, and the fact Jordy played in a pass first offense with a quarterback who went as a #1.

I cannot remember a single big play that Jordy made where I thought "wow". I remember several from Jones. I have no idea who will be the better player, hopefully they're both great, but to this point I think Jones has shown more and I don't see the "awesomeness" some of you see in Jordy. I might rank Ruvell ahead of him to be honest. I at least remember Ruvell stepping up and making some plays.

[pbmax]

James Jones is the more athletically gifted of the 2 and the one who is more apt to get you YAC.

It's absolutely fair to compare a Cali athlete to a Kansas athlete, too, while we're at it with the eye rolling

Beautiful. Absent facts, one person compares "athletics" and the other their state. More and more I am surprised that we all don't still believe the world is flat.

Wide Receivers...School.........Ht......Wt  	 40    	20    	10  	Vert.  	Broad  	Shuttle  	3Cone
Jordy Nelson  	Kansas State   6'3  	217  	4.51  	2.64  	1.57  	31  	 10'03"  	4.35  	  7.03
Jones, James  	San Jose St.   6'1" 	207  	4.54  	2.65  	1.54     34"   	9'11"     4.20       7.06

[SkinBasket]

I might rank Ruvell ahead of him to be honest.

That is not surprising. Is Ruvell revolutionizing the position of WR from the bench? If only we ran the wildcat...