Improve This Article: Reasons Packers Retreated To 6-10

[RashanGary]

I'll buy the bad breaks for part of it. I certainly don't think it was the biggest reason and not even close.


Defense was the #1 reason (goes on Thompson and Sanders)
Special teams was the #2 reason (goes on Thompson)
Stubborn coaching (playing like you have a good defense and good running game even though you don't) was #3 IMO (McCarthy)
Injuries were #4 (trainer)
Unusually high number of bad bounces would be #5 for me. Maybe a game, two at most. (just the way it worked out but we did get BJ Raji)

[woodbuck27]

At one point in the season, Ryan was ranked right at the bottom in the major statistics. Not sure how he finished out.

Maybe you could look that up falco? You were never on board with Jon Ryan as I recall.

GO PACKERS!

This is too funny. In other thread, you said that I was a poster with an axe to grind and a long and selective memory. I didn't post back, because I was at work, but couldn't figure out what the heck you were talking about, since you and I have never really exchanged words.

Then I read this post and remembered that at one point in time you had flipped out at back at JSO (ca 2005?) because I made a joke about Jon Ryan being Canadian. For the record, I was never against him, but you seemed to lash out at me regardless.

And yet, I am the one with the long memory...

after reading that below I decided to edit my post to stick to your response falco as it related to football:

To the OP - I've split the non-football related stuff out of this topic. You can find it in a similar named thread in the Romper Room.


To everyone - Back to a good discussion. Administrator

To be on topic Re: football:

I could be wrong falco, but it seems to me that when I checked and as I re-call that was late in 2008. Jon Ryan was showing up as one of the top eight punters overall in the NFL. I didn't check his final stats for 2008 falco.

GO PACK GO!

[GBRulz]

I'm going to throw in another reason why I think we struggled that I haven't seen posted yet.....

Since when are the Packers a freaken dome team? M3 practices indoors wayyyyyy too damn much. Our worst two cold weather performances in many years have both come under the M3 regime and yes, I partially blame it on not being prepared to play in the cold.

[Scott Campbell]

Since Woody wisely edited his comments out, I will too.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm the sort that generally stands for the downtrodden, the newcomer, the minority, the less privaleged,m the new guy. . .you get the picture falco.

I think it's wonderful that we have that in common Woody.

[woodbuck27]

Some of us come from a culture that places alot of and /or respect based in the wolf pack mentality. We grow alot in not just having our scraps but in how we follow up after licking our wounds. Some never allow that growth in themselves. Rather wear the cloak of the village idiot and look for every opportunity to continue the last fight.

So you're saying that some of us are Canadian?

Scott. Please get on topic. I revised the post the above comes from.

I'm going to ignore you Scott Campbell to save you more embarassment.

In future I will ignore you and cpk1994. Your two of a kind and nothing I have to deal with.

I'll add this. In my view you've always come off as the poor soul. I've never come across anyone in my life that criuses to be bruised like you Scott.

Your the classic bully Scott and you always suffer your own fate man. You cannnot get out of your own way. That's sad to pathetic that you live on our forum to harass and intimidate. It's worse that you even imagine you might survive that behaviour Scott Campbell. In the past even your groupies couldn't pull you in. You just go on beating yourself up Scott.

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Some of us come from a culture that places alot of and /or respect based in the wolf pack mentality. We grow alot in not just having our scraps but in how we follow up after licking our wounds. Some never allow that growth in themselves. Rather wear the cloak of the village idiot and look for every opportunity to continue the last fight.

So you're saying that some of us are Canadian?

I'm going to ignore you Scott Campbell to save you more embarassment.

In future I will ignore you and cpk1994. Your two of a kind.

I'll add this. In my view you've always come off as the poor soul. I've never come across anyone in my life that criuses to be bruised like you Scott.

Your the classic bully Scott and you always suffer your own fate man. You cannnot get out of your own way. That's sad to pathetic.

I'm offended that you didn't include me in your condemning...

[Scott Campbell]

There's no need for personal attacks Woody.

I think everyone is very glad you're here and posting. Welcome back. Perhaps you took some things I said in the past personally. If so, I'm sorry. I'd like to start anew. And you're right, this is a place for football posts.

Jon Ryan finished 7th in the league last year. I was very proud of him for you.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm offended that you didn't include me in your condemning...

I think there's plenty of room for all of us here. Woody is every bit as good a poster and human being as I am, and as you are. Were are all equal.

So lets talk Packer football!!!!

[woodbuck27]

So are great players lucky more often than average players?

And do great teams blow out more teams to stay out of tight games, and away from luck influenced outcomes?

Here is a solid post in terms of the question Scott:

1. So are great players lucky more often than average players?

My answer Scott:

A majority of great players will often say that their good fortunes regarding the play etc. are due to some good lu8ck. Now that response is just based in my long association with athletes and as a sports fan.

2. Do great teams blow out more teams to stay out of tight games, and away from luck influenced outcomes?

Mr response :

Great teams will more likely see game outcomes where the quality of that teams play will show lopsided scores. Those same teams will still experience close scores as an outcome. I believe that the better prepared a team is the more likely it will be great and win those close games. In those close games the element of luck will saw back and forth but preperation meets results rules over luck.

GO PACK GO!

[woodbuck27]

Some of us come from a culture that places alot of and /or respect based in the wolf pack mentality. We grow alot in not just having our scraps but in how we follow up after licking our wounds. Some never allow that growth in themselves. Rather wear the cloak of the village idiot and look for every opportunity to continue the last fight.

So you're saying that some of us are Canadian?

I'm going to ignore you Scott Campbell to save you more embarassment.

In future I will ignore you and cpk1994. Your two of a kind.

I'll add this. In my view you've always come off as the poor soul. I've never come across anyone in my life that criuses to be bruised like you Scott.

Your the classic bully Scott and you always suffer your own fate man. You cannnot get out of your own way. That's sad to pathetic.

I'm offended that you didn't include me in your condemning...

Sorry for the hurt feelings mission.

Today we have a minor car accident that could result in deaths. Do you prefer a chain reaction and the probability of deaths to rise?

GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

A fine post Woody.

Here's to our new found friendship built upon mutual respect as equal contributors to PackerRats, and mankind.

[falco]

Woody, I think Jon Ryan was a good punter. When you attacked me way back when at JSO, it was because I defended TT. You were lambasting TT for allowing Jon Ryan to head to Cincinatti without signing him. I said, hey, we don't know the whole story. You jumped all over me and accused me of hating Canadians, or something to that effect.

I liked Jon Ryan when he was here. Thought he could have been good for us. So you are barking up the wrong tree.

As a side note, that kickass play where they cancelled the fake punt, but Jon Ryan didn't get memo and got the first anyway, that was awesome. Can someone post a clip?

[woodbuck27]

There's no need for personal attacks Woody.

I think everyone is very glad you're here and posting. Welcome back. Perhaps you took some things I said in the past personally. If so, I'm sorry. I'd like to start anew. And you're right, this is a place for football posts.

Jon Ryan finished 7th in the league last year. I was very proud of him for you.

This certainly isn't a place to act immaturely Scott. Manners are often based in more or less ignorance.We need to learn to pardon ignorance.

A truce should last longer that the shame of the Palestine/Israel Peace talks.

That has always been the only way for you and I Scott. Different personalitys and different upbringings and cultures can collide overruling co-operation. One must look beyond ego and selfish motives and you know that's true Scott where some may not.

Bottom line is noone on this forum is bigger than the pursuit of the greater part to talk football. You by now know where I stand there as it's been over 4 years since we met on a forum Scott. I only post on the footbal thread and romper room.

All this Brett Favre and Brett Favre Vs Ted Thompson stuff is going to likely end up with a load of crow being swollowed and or egg on some posters face. When we post on that issue I advise all to be prepared for a result that knocks them on their seat. As a forum we have to survive any short term outcomes. Not ever get too stu;pid.

GO PACKERS!

GO PACKERS!

[woodbuck27]

A fine post Woody.

Here's to our new found friendship built upon mutual respect as equal contributors to PackerRats, and mankind.

You were doing so good too Scott. Man after four years your too easy to read. Just leave out two words from the above and read the different result Scott. Your not posting anyone Scott. Your posting woodbuck27 and like it or not I'm no dummy.

Palestine/Israel ! !