Improve This Article: Reasons Packers Retreated To 6-10

[Scott Campbell]

This certainly isn't a place to act immaturely Scott. Manners are often based in more or less ignorance.We need to learn to pardon ignorance.

Profound. You won't read that in any fortune cookie. I look forward to many more of these little pearls of wisdom, as together we shall light the way towards posting tolerance. Keep fighting the good fight Woody. Lets make PackerRats the best it can be!

GO PACK GO!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Woody, I think Jon Ryan was a good punter. When you attacked me way back when at JSO, it was because I defended TT. You were lambasting TT for allowing Jon Ryan to head to Cincinatti without signing him. I said, hey, we don't know the whole story. You jumped all over me and accused me of hating Canadians, or something to that effect.

I liked Jon Ryan when he was here. Thought he could have been good for us. So you are barking up the wrong tree.

As a side note, that kickass play where they cancelled the fake punt, but Jon Ryan didn't get memo and got the first anyway, that was awesome. Can someone post a clip?

Why can't we just maybe decide if dumping Jon Ryan ( and doing so down to the end of TC last year ) was prudent? Look at him as a punter ( forget his nationality of origin) before he arrived as a Packer and his results in Seattle in 2008 NFL season.

I'll go first. I disagreed with the move to cut Jon Ryan as I felt his history and character exemplified him as a Green Bay Packer for years to come. His results in seattle back up my position.

GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

His yardage in Seattle looked respectable. But the reasons for dumping Ryan were well chronicled. He out kicked his coverage, had a tortoise like get away time, lacked hang time, and couldn't reliably kick directionally.

The mistake wasn't in dumping him. The mistake was dumping him as late as they did, and without having an adequate replacement. It helped cost Stock his job. And it reflected very poorly on Thompson.

[woodbuck27]

This certainly isn't a place to act immaturely Scott. Manners are often based in more or less ignorance.We need to learn to pardon ignorance.

Profound. You won't read that in any fortune cookie. I look forward to many more of these little pearls of wisdom, as together we shall light the way towards posting tolerance. Keep fighting the good fight Woody. Lets make PackerRats the best it can be!

GO PACK GO!!!!

Scott you won't tred in a soupy pool of sarcasm and survive as well as the other chap can tred water. Unfortunately Scott. Real change only results as a result of reflection after pain.

A wise man once said. Before you enter battle against any man. Be well aware of that opponents skills. Better to greet all well.

Getting back to football I'm thinking of Brett Favre for sure now in terms of the above.

and. . . . . .

Good Vs Bad karma.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm doing all I can to stay out of the gutter Woody.


So who the hell is going to be our punter this year? And why haven't we read anything about it yet?

GO PACK GO!!!

[pbmax]

Nope, need to give this another try.

[cpk1994]

So who the hell is going to be our punter this year? And why haven't we read anything about it yet?

GO PACK GO!!!

Becuase they haven't gotten to training camp yet?

[MJZiggy]

What's wrong with Kapinos? I thought he did fine!?

[cpk1994]

What's wrong with Kapinos? I thought he did fine!?

I don't think anyone said anything was wrong with Kapinos. What was wrong was how long it took to get to him and what was done in the interim.

[falco]

Kapinos was acceptable, but he's not a guy you take to camp without serious competition.

[falco]

Why can't we just maybe decide if dumping Jon Ryan ( and doing so down to the end of TC last year ) was prudent? Look at him as a punter ( forget his nationality of origin) before he arrived as a Packer and his results in Seattle in 2008 NFL season.

I'll go first. I disagreed with the move to cut Jon Ryan as I felt his history and character exemplified him as a Green Bay Packer for years to come. His results in seattle back up my position.GO PACK GO!

For the record, I do think dumping Jon Ryan was a mistake... and I believe you are the one who has had a hard time forgetting his nationality of origin... no one else gives a damn where he came from.

[MJZiggy]

By the way, PB, fantastic idea for a thread. You know how I feel about media and you know I think we're better than they are. We proved it too if they were only paying attention!!!

[RashanGary]

7th ranked ST's dropped to 26th ranked ST's (Dallas Morning News overall ST's ranking)
9th ranked defense dropped to 20th ranked defense (NFL.com ypg stat)
Offense went from 3rd to 8th



There is zero question in my mind that the Packers got worse last year. The luck card is the smallest of factors.

The good thing is they've added DL. They've kept their offense together for yet another year. There is no reason to believe they can't be back in the top 10 in all areas next year. No reason at all.

[woodbuck27]

I'm going to throw in another reason why I think we struggled that I haven't seen posted yet.....

Since when are the Packers a freaken dome team? M3 practices indoors wayyyyyy too damn much. Our worst two cold weather performances in many years have both come under the M3 regime and yes, I partially blame it on not being prepared to play in the cold.

I believe your absolutely correct GBRulz. It comes down to common sense and back to the toughness needed by the best teams.

GO PACKERS!

[woodbuck27]

7th ranked ST's dropped to 26th ranked ST's (Dallas Morning News overall ST's ranking)
9th ranked defense dropped to 20th ranked defense (NFL.com ypg stat)
Offense went from 3rd to 8th



There is zero question in my mind that the Packers got worse last year. The luck card is the smallest of factors.

The good thing is they've added DL. They've kept their offense together for yet another year. There is no reason to believe they can't be back in the top 10 in all areas next year. No reason at all.

This bad!

7th ranked ST's dropped to 26th ranked ST's (Dallas Morning News overall ST's ranking)

9th ranked defense dropped to 20th ranked defense (NFL.com ypg stat)

Offense went from 3rd to 8th

GO PACKERS!