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  • #16
    Originally posted by woodbuck27
    A chilled out Brett Favre and with a focus on just execution is scary for opposaing teams.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      Originally posted by woodbuck27
      A chilled out Brett Favre and with a focus on just execution is scary for opposaing teams.

      They weren't interceptions. THe WR's ran the wrong routes on every single one of those.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        Originally posted by woodbuck27
        A chilled out Brett Favre and with a focus on just execution is scary for opposaing teams.

        I really get a kick out of this shit. Why don't you compare Favres carrer playoff stats with other "great QB's" His numbers aren't all that bad. His numbers are comparable or better than some of the big time winners like Bradshaw, Staubach, Elway, Aikman, so get off it already. Brady, Starr, and Montana were decidedly better in the post season and Montana only with the help of one spectacular run with 11 tds and 0 ints....Point is Favre's playoff numbers stack up with most QB's They just hurt you more, because your a Packer fan! Pretty sorry group of people that just want to bash, one of the top 3-4 Packer players of all time.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LEWCWA
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by woodbuck27
          A chilled out Brett Favre and with a focus on just execution is scary for opposaing teams.

          I really get a kick out of this shit. Why don't you compare Favres carrer playoff stats with other "great QB's" His numbers aren't all that bad. His numbers are comparable or better than some of the big time winners like Bradshaw, Staubach, Elway, Aikman, so get off it already. Brady, Starr, and Montana were decidedly better in the post season and Montana only with the help of one spectacular run with 11 tds and 0 ints....Point is Favre's playoff numbers stack up with most QB's They just hurt you more, because your a Packer fan! Pretty sorry group of people that just want to bash, one of the top 3-4 Packer players of all time.
          Right, like those beautiful games against the Falcons and Rams? ? ?

          I think Favre is a top 10 QB, but his boneheaded play, especially in games that mattered, is what keeps him out of the top 5 for me.

          And I would have told you that in late 2007, when I was still pretty high on him.
          Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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          • #20


            Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

            Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Partial


              Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

              Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.

              I think it would be far more interesting to statistically compare old Brett against young Brett. I suspect he played far better pre 2001 than post 2001.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LEWCWA
                Pretty sorry group of people that just want to bash, one of the top 3-4 Packer players of all time.

                That has nothing to do with it.

                Woody claims we should "fear" Brett Favre, or that he's somehow "scary". My point is that I don't think we need to fear him nearly as much as the Vikings should.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Partial


                  Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                  Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                  It couldn't be that Peyton still has a few years to go while Favre is 40. Nah, it has to be people just bashing Favre becuase they hate him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Originally posted by Partial


                    Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                    Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                    It couldn't be that Peyton still has a few years to go while Favre is 40. Nah, it has to be people just bashing Favre becuase they hate him.
                    Manning isn't exactly young anymore. The odds of him winning another one with the young talent in the AFC isn't great imo. Especially with Brady and that sick offense back.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      Originally posted by cpk1994
                      Originally posted by Partial


                      Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                      Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                      It couldn't be that Peyton still has a few years to go while Favre is 40. Nah, it has to be people just bashing Favre becuase they hate him.
                      Manning isn't exactly young anymore. The odds of him winning another one with the young talent in the AFC isn't great imo. Especially with Brady and that sick offense back.
                      No, but he has more years left than Favre does(barring serious injury of course). He will have more chances to win another one than Favre will.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                        Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                        The first part of this is fair. Their numbers may be comparable. However, I don't think Manning is close to the best QB ever, and a lot of it has to do with his playoff failures. Outside of one year, his playoff record is poor. Favre has had more misses than hits in his playoff career also. I may end up ranking Manning higher, if he doesn't drop off completely. His numbers compare very favorably to Favre in the regular season.

                        64.4 completion %, 7.7 yards/attempt, 333 TDs, 165 interceptions (2.02 TD/int rate)

                        61.6 completion %, 7.0 yards/attempts, 464 TDs, 310 interceptions (1.50 TD/int rate)

                        If Manning continues what he's doing, I'd put those two (plus Marino) on the edge of the top 5. It will probably go Manning, Favre, Marino.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Partial


                          Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                          Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                          Please post it, I'd love to look at it.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pbmax
                            Originally posted by Partial


                            Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                            Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                            Please post it, I'd love to look at it.
                            Favre (22 games):
                            Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate
                            438 721 5311 39 28 7.4 60.7 85.2

                            Manning (15 games):
                            Cmp Att Yds TD Int Y/A Cmp% Rate
                            348 564 4208 22 17 7.5 61.7 85.0

                            This is not a "deep comparison," however, just a ten-second google search with cut-and-paste options enabled. :P

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pbmax
                              Originally posted by Partial


                              Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                              Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                              Please post it, I'd love to look at it.
                              I think I've done more than this too, but this took more than enough digging to find.

                              Not really. I'll take 3-6 over 0-0 any day. Furthermore, they're called the playoffs because the best teams play. 11/12 of the teams in the playoffs lose a game annually, ya know.

                              Take out the two horrendous performances and the numbers are not very bad at all.

                              How many times would we have been in the playoffs with a lesser quarterback to lose those games?!? Nobody is itching to throw Romo out despite being 0-2!

                              Manning - 2007 - 2 TO, 0-1
                              - 2006 - 8 TO, 4-0
                              - 2005 - 0 TO, 0-1
                              - 2004 - 3 TO, 1-1
                              - 2003 - 5 T0, 2-1
                              - 2002 - 2 TO, 0-1
                              - 2001 - 0 TO, 0-0
                              - 2000 - 0 TO, 0-1
                              - 1999 - 3 TO, 0-1
                              - 1998 - 0 TO, 0-0

                              Let's see... 1-1 conference championship loss
                              1 super bowl appearance
                              23 TO
                              7-7 record
                              1.5 TOPG
                              1.4 PGPY

                              Brett Favre
                              2007 - 2 TO, 1-1
                              2006 - 0 TO, 0-0
                              2005 - 0 TO, 0-0
                              2004 - 5 TO, 0-1
                              2003 - 1 TO, 1-1
                              2002 - 3 TO, 0-1
                              2001 - 7 TO, 1-1
                              2000 - 0 TO, 0-0
                              1999 - 0 T0, 0-0
                              1998 - 2 TO, 0-1
                              1997 - 4 TO, 2-1
                              1996 - 2 T0, 3-0
                              1995 - 2 TO, 2-1
                              1994 - 1 TO, 1-1
                              1993 - 3 TO, 1-1

                              2-2 conference championship record
                              12 - 9 record
                              32 total turnovers
                              1.52 TOPG
                              1.4 PGPY

                              hmmm... Almost identical stats... Funny how when Favre was on a bad team in recent years, and Peyton was on a bad team in the early years things managed to work out almost evenly.

                              Accept Favre managed to win some playoff games. His stats would be even better if the first round bye didn't exist!

                              Both quarterbacks are considered old in quarterback years. Would you not take Peyton Manning over A-Rod either, despite virtually identical # of playoff games per year, and 1.3% less turnovers per game?!? Both are .500 in conference championship games as well. Favre has a better winning percentage in the playoffs, though.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Originally posted by pbmax
                                Originally posted by Partial


                                Statistically, Favre and Manning are identical in the playoffs. Stats are eerily similar, as I did a deep comparison, and both have had a hard time winning big games.

                                Yet Peyton is the best QB ever, and Favre is just yesterday's news.
                                Please post it, I'd love to look at it.
                                I think I've done more than this too, but this took more than enough digging to find.

                                Not really. I'll take 3-6 over 0-0 any day. Furthermore, they're called the playoffs because the best teams play. 11/12 of the teams in the playoffs lose a game annually, ya know.

                                Take out the two horrendous performances and the numbers are not very bad at all.

                                How many times would we have been in the playoffs with a lesser quarterback to lose those games?!? Nobody is itching to throw Romo out despite being 0-2!

                                Manning - 2007 - 2 TO, 0-1
                                - 2006 - 8 TO, 4-0
                                - 2005 - 0 TO, 0-1
                                - 2004 - 3 TO, 1-1
                                - 2003 - 5 T0, 2-1
                                - 2002 - 2 TO, 0-1
                                - 2001 - 0 TO, 0-0
                                - 2000 - 0 TO, 0-1
                                - 1999 - 3 TO, 0-1
                                - 1998 - 0 TO, 0-0

                                Let's see... 1-1 conference championship loss
                                1 super bowl appearance
                                23 TO
                                7-7 record
                                1.5 TOPG
                                1.4 PGPY

                                Brett Favre
                                2007 - 2 TO, 1-1
                                2006 - 0 TO, 0-0
                                2005 - 0 TO, 0-0
                                2004 - 5 TO, 0-1
                                2003 - 1 TO, 1-1
                                2002 - 3 TO, 0-1
                                2001 - 7 TO, 1-1
                                2000 - 0 TO, 0-0
                                1999 - 0 T0, 0-0
                                1998 - 2 TO, 0-1
                                1997 - 4 TO, 2-1
                                1996 - 2 T0, 3-0
                                1995 - 2 TO, 2-1
                                1994 - 1 TO, 1-1
                                1993 - 3 TO, 1-1

                                2-2 conference championship record
                                12 - 9 record
                                32 total turnovers
                                1.52 TOPG
                                1.4 PGPY

                                hmmm... Almost identical stats... Funny how when Favre was on a bad team in recent years, and Peyton was on a bad team in the early years things managed to work out almost evenly.

                                Accept Favre managed to win some playoff games. His stats would be even better if the first round bye didn't exist!

                                Both quarterbacks are considered old in quarterback years. Would you not take Peyton Manning over A-Rod either, despite virtually identical # of playoff games per year, and 1.3% less turnovers per game?!? Both are .500 in conference championship games as well. Favre has a better winning percentage in the playoffs, though.

                                Am I reading this right?

                                Young Brett (Pre 2001) 14 TO in 14 games, 9-5 record
                                Old Brett 18 TO in 8 games, 3-5 record

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