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I always thought that McCarthy exhibits a lot more personal accountability than Mike Sherman EVER did. I also think that "I'll have to watch the film" is a perfectly valid answer in a post-game press conference. However, I do think that even though MM says, "it starts with me", Stubby's Stubbornness drives him to try the same thing over and over with hopes of a different result. RUN THE DAMN BALL EARLY. SHORT QUICK PASSES.
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Grant is Earth, Green is Wind and Peterson is Fire."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Now you're talking.Originally posted by MichiganPackerFanOne time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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The OL is good but Favre's played with better. The running game is good but Favre's had just as good in the past. The receivers are good but Favre's had better. The defense is good but Favre's played with much better. The difference is Favre.
Playing efficiently, taking what's there, and protecting the ball has made him a different QB than he was for most of his career. He reminds me of when Roger Clemens learned to throw a splitter to continue his dominance even into his 40s. Favre has gone from a power pitcher to a finesse pitcher. As the year goes on we'll see how he holds up.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.Comment
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Favre is looking to show everyone he can still play well and win. He's playing with a massive chip on his shoulder this year.
I don't believe it's the talent around him, but what's going on within him.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!Comment
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It's well known that I am a Favre fan at these boards, regardless of who he plays for. Packers first, favre is just fun to watch.
I'll say he is taking less risks, but not zero risks. The one deep pass to sidney on the drive that beat Baltimore was a risky pass, especially since there was plenty of time to drive the field. Against the pack, he threw 3 or 4 balls that our defenders just barely missed, in tight coverage, to get first downs. The one TD pass to Berrian that sealed the game was a perfect throw. Barnett was right there and it just barely missed his finger tips.
He has the zip. Maybe not as strong as arm as he has ever had, but there has yet to be seen a throw he can't make on the field this year. Deep, short, on a rope 18 yards, touch on a dump off. He's playing complete football from the QB position.
I can't give credit to his OL. His OL DOES look great given what Rodgers has, but he's been sacked 18 times, on pace for the most since 1998 I believe. That doesn't even count the numerous hits he has taken this season after just releasing the ball for a key play (though, that is Favre being Favre, so those hits wont necessarily go away). His OL has actually been a weak spot for the passing game, it's just not as bad as the packers. Running wise, that OL is beastly.
Yes, he has AP, and a solid defense that makes things easier. What he also has is WR's that compliment eachother really well. Even look at the ints he does have. His first was a ball off I think berrian's hands in one of the early games, and his 3rd int was bad throw/bad reaction by Taylor on a dump off/screen. His other pick I can't seem to remember. Afterall, I don't exactly sit down and watch every vikings game. So, even in getting picked, it's not even off a bad decision... or a really bad throw.
Favre is still taking some risks with throws. He has thrown into some really tight spots. Why is he better? One would say age, experience, but he's doing things stat wise he has never done. Not only that. 2 of 3 times with the game on the line he came through and won... the 3rd game it took a fluke fumble and a lucky bounce int to stop him from going 3/3. (possibly he already won it without the BS tripping call on the TD pass, but it is what it is)
There is no real explanation for what Favre is doing: He is just playing smart football. He is still making plays, stilling slinging it, and just not throwing ints. I can't explain why, all I can say is he is playing pretty much like he always has. I watch him and don't see anything too different. It just looks like every game he plays is one of his good games. Pitt is his worst game of hte year, and he was the entire offense that game (AP was eliminated). He's just having a lot of good games, and not just against bad opponents. If this holds up and he gets say 30 TD's, under 10 ints on the season, and the vikings have only 2 or 3 losses and a first round bye... it's going to be hard to n ot give him his 4th MVP.Comment
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This is stupid, why is he performing well? Because its freakin Brett Favre!
You give him a the best RB in the game, great online, big play WR, and a offense he has ran pretty much his whole career. I mean what did you expect?
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Again, passing wise, his OL is the worst he has had since 1998. I hate everyone clamouring over his OL: Brett is getting hit a piss load.Originally posted by Brandon494Comment
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My whole point was that in 2003 when Green had his monster year at RB Favre still threw a bunch of INT's. I think some other posters have it down and make a better case that Favre has changed this year and is playing with a chip on his shoulder.Originally posted by Brandon494Comment
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+1Originally posted by Brandon494
Brett Favre's arm is legendary. This guy will have enough ability when he is 60 to start for the Cleveland Browns. He's a freak. When you surround him with talent, he's going to put up monster numbers.
His three year MVP stretch was possibly the most amazing stretch of football ever put together by a QB over that time frame...and he didn't really have any weapons to work with. Robert Brooks? Mark Chmura? Antonio Freeman? Don Beebe? Andre Rison? He did THAT with THOSE players? Scary to think what he would've done if he had some true Pro Bowl caliber offensive talent to work with.
Favre is focused and determined. For the first time in a long while, Favre received some well earned criticism...and he's out to prove everyone wrong.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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I can't believe all of you have overlooked the most obvious of answers to this thread.
The #2 reason is his o-line.
The #3 reason is AP.
BUT...
The #1 reason the dude is playing so well is this:
He Just turned 40 years old. Ever hear of a "Mid-Life Crisis"??
The Vikings are his "I'm gonna buy me a Harley, or a sports car to help me feel younger".
Am I the only one who sees this?
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Again: How is his OL considered a reason folks? 18 sacks, on pace for the most since 1998, and he's getting hit a lot after throws or "as he is" throwing.
Again, his OL has nothing to do with Favre's success throwing this year. If anything, stats show he should be worse this year with that OL then he was in 2007. Instead, he's better.Comment
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Late bloomer.Comment
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No kidding. I wonder if #4 is happy now that he has another HC and OC that will treat him like royalty like when Sherman was at 1265?Originally posted by FritzComment
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Originally posted by Pugger
sure looks happy at 7-1 and 16 TD's to 3 INT's and being surrounded with loads of talent... are u happy as a Packers fan?Comment
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