Why is Favre performing so well this year?

[Pugger]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

Isn't it great that a guy like Favre can just disprove all that bullshit stuff they do all year long? Guys like him shouldnt have to attend that shit. It's pointless. These guys need their time off as well and maybe if they had it, more would play as long and as good as Brett has.


I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

And, we've figured that you are TT hater and Bert lover.

I'm not a TT hater because of the Favre fiasco though. Well I shouldn't put it that way. That was just the icing on the cake. I don't like his ways of building a team, hate me for it, but I really don't care. We now are seeing how shitty of a team this is. Any time we face real talent, we fold. I wasn't a MM hater for the first couple years, but I sure as hell am now.

side note: I had a dream that Holmgren came back as our GM and Gruden came back as our head coach. Oh its nice to live in the fantasy world.

Right. So, you were a TT hater from the beginning. You just admitted it. Yeah, so you were hating him after mm was hired and we went 8-8 and then 13-3. LOL

Side note: Well, this pretty much proves how little you know about football. Holmgren was a DISASTER as a GM. DISASTER. Gruden. Yeah, he has been great at taking over teams that other coaches assembled. Pretty much killed the Bucs.

read his post b4 answering. Said he wasn't a hater the first couple years...for someone who call people out on this all the time maybe you need to lighten up. The guy makes a good point and you totally misread his statement. This team has been stagenent for a few years now....

Why dont' you try reading and comprehending. He said the FAVRE situation was the ICING on the cake. That means the cake was there from the beginning.

But, just proves how irrational some folks are. They dislike him while he was going 8-8 and 13-3.

No, i didn't misread, you did. You dont' understand a common expression like ICING ON THE CAKE.

The team has been stagnant for a few years? I see, we were 13-3 in 07 but were were stagnant.

Dude, come back when you actually have some logic behind your assertions.

The TT haters think 2007 was just a fluke or we only went 13-3 cuz of #4. They ignore the fact that #4 was under center in 2005...

[Pugger]

Ya just different opinions. It's all good. I think Favre fans are now happy for the situation he is in, can we say the same about Packer fans? It sure doesnt seem like it.

I can't speak for other Packers fans, but for me, I couldn't care less about him. When he was the GB QB, I liked him. Then he was on another team and AR was the GB QB. Then this thing called cognitive dissonance occurred where the psychological internal conflict reared its head regarding who I would follow if BF played GB (even when he was with the Jets). I realized quickly that I'm a Packer fan, which means that it's irrelevant who plays the Packers. I want the Packers to win. Game that don't include GB, I simply don't care about unless they affect GB's playoff chances, who GB would play in the playoffs, or worsening the division rivals playoff chances and draft stock.

+1

[Pugger]

Getting back to the original topic, I have been pondering why Favre is so good this year. Wouldn't it suck if, after all these years, he finally, finally figured out how to channel all that talent - for the damn Vikings???

No kidding. I wonder if #4 is happy now that he has another HC and OC that will treat him like royalty like when Sherman was at 1265?

sure looks happy at 7-1 and 16 TD's to 3 INT's and being surrounded with loads of talent... are u happy as a Packers fan?

No, only because the PACKERS are not 7-1. It sucks that he is playing this well with the queens. No Packer fan should be happy with this situation. I'm sure a Favre fan like you is thrilled with all of this.

[pbmax]

Again: How is his OL considered a reason folks? 18 sacks, on pace for the most since 1998, and he's getting hit a lot after throws or "as he is" throwing.

Again, his OL has nothing to do with Favre's success throwing this year. If anything, stats show he should be worse this year with that OL then he was in 2007. Instead, he's better.

Because in a world where very few real life situations are binary, pass protection is a combination of O line, QB and receivers (and play caller/coaches). So to lay the blame on 18 sacks at the feet of the O line is making an assumption that is quite probably false.

Having watched 3.5 Favre/Vikings games he has had good time behind his line for each but the Pittsburgh game. The real story behind 18 sacks is that he no longer looks to escape the pocket (its step up or go down) and he is eating the football rather than throwing it up for grabs. Bingo, 18 sacks behind a good pass blocking line.

[g4orce]

Getting back to the original topic, I have been pondering why Favre is so good this year. Wouldn't it suck if, after all these years, he finally, finally figured out how to channel all that talent - for the damn Vikings???

No kidding. I wonder if #4 is happy now that he has another HC and OC that will treat him like royalty like when Sherman was at 1265?

sure looks happy at 7-1 and 16 TD's to 3 INT's and being surrounded with loads of talent... are u happy as a Packers fan?

No, only because the PACKERS are not 7-1. It sucks that he is playing this well with the queens. No Packer fan should be happy with this situation. I'm sure a Favre fan like you is thrilled with all of this.

Favre fans arent happy, happy to see him happy but not happy about our situation. Do you now see why our hatred runs so deeply for TT.

Imagine someone makes a choice for u, says its gonna be alright, u know its not gonna be alright but u give it a chance. Well a little while later u now see that he/she was complete bullshit. How would that make u feel?

[Scott Campbell]

Do you now see why our hatred runs so deeply for TT.

I think all that hatred has made you soul empty.

[g4orce]

Do you now see why our hatred runs so deeply for TT.

Because you're smitten with Favre and his Wrangler jeans?

See I'm not sure why comments are needed like this. Is it because you cannot trash his play so you have to resort to childish things such as these comments? How does this help anyone out here?

[Bretsky]

All that extra work with the high schoolers this summer really paid off.

Isn't it great that a guy like Favre can just disprove all that bullshit stuff they do all year long? Guys like him shouldnt have to attend that shit. It's pointless. These guys need their time off as well and maybe if they had it, more would play as long and as good as Brett has.


I've figure out in a hurry youre going to be a Brett Favre hater, no matter how many times he crams that football in the Packers endzone with a smile on his face.

And, we've figured that you are TT hater and Bert lover.

I'm not a TT hater because of the Favre fiasco though. Well I shouldn't put it that way. That was just the icing on the cake. I don't like his ways of building a team, hate me for it, but I really don't care. We now are seeing how shitty of a team this is. Any time we face real talent, we fold. I wasn't a MM hater for the first couple years, but I sure as hell am now.

side note: I had a dream that Holmgren came back as our GM and Gruden came back as our head coach. Oh its nice to live in the fantasy world.

Right. So, you were a TT hater from the beginning. You just admitted it. Yeah, so you were hating him after mm was hired and we went 8-8 and then 13-3. LOL

Side note: Well, this pretty much proves how little you know about football. Holmgren was a DISASTER as a GM. DISASTER. Gruden. Yeah, he has been great at taking over teams that other coaches assembled. Pretty much killed the Bucs.

read his post b4 answering. Said he wasn't a hater the first couple years...for someone who call people out on this all the time maybe you need to lighten up. The guy makes a good point and you totally misread his statement. This team has been stagenent for a few years now....

Why dont' you try reading and comprehending. He said the FAVRE situation was the ICING on the cake. That means the cake was there from the beginning.

But, just proves how irrational some folks are. They dislike him while he was going 8-8 and 13-3.

No, i didn't misread, you did. You dont' understand a common expression like ICING ON THE CAKE.

The team has been stagnant for a few years? I see, we were 13-3 in 07 but were were stagnant.

Dude, come back when you actually have some logic behind your assertions.

The TT haters think 2007 was just a fluke or we only went 13-3 cuz of #4. They ignore the fact that #4 was under center in 2005...

Favre was a part of 05 and 07; All of the Cards fell into place in 07 and everything, injuries included, went wrong in 05.

I'm not a huge fan of TTT's developmental program but hopefully it starts working long term. It could be a lot worse and this team does have a lot of talent at certain positions.

With that being said, #4 greatly contributed to a losing season being an extreme rarity in Green Bay. We were spoiled for a long time.

Now it's TTT's turn to continue that tradition

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Do you now see why our hatred runs so deeply for TT.

Because you're smitten with Favre and his Wrangler jeans?

See I'm not sure why comments are needed like this. Is it because you cannot trash his play so you have to resort to childish things such as these comments? How does this help anyone out here?

So, you are smitten with Favre and the wranglers?

[channtheman]

Getting back to the original topic, I have been pondering why Favre is so good this year. Wouldn't it suck if, after all these years, he finally, finally figured out how to channel all that talent - for the damn Vikings???

No kidding. I wonder if #4 is happy now that he has another HC and OC that will treat him like royalty like when Sherman was at 1265?

sure looks happy at 7-1 and 16 TD's to 3 INT's and being surrounded with loads of talent... are u happy as a Packers fan?

	Passing	Rushing
Rk	G#	Date	         Age	Tm		Opp	Result	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Rate	Y/A
 1	1	 2002-09-08	32-333	GNB		ATL	W 37-34	25	36	69.4%	284	2	0	 111.3	7.89
 2	2	 2002-09-15	32-340	GNB	@  NOR	L 20-35	29	44	65.9%	270	2	1	 88.3	6.14
 3	3	 2002-09-22	32-347	GNB	@  DET	W 37-31	31	47	66.0%	357	3	1	 101.1	7.60
 4	4	 2002-09-29	32-354	GNB		CAR	W 17-14	18	32	56.3%	200	1	1	 72.4	6.25
 5	5	 2002-10-07	32-362	GNB	@  CHI	W 34-21	22	33	66.7%	359	3	0	 133.3	10.88
 6	6	 2002-10-13	33-003	GNB	@  NWE	W 28-10	17	27	63.0%	147	3	0	 114.3	5.44
 7	7	 2002-10-20	33-010	GNB		WAS	W 30-9	 11	14	78.6%	89	 0	0	 93.2	6.36	
 8	8	 2002-11-04	33-025	GNB		MIA	W 24-10	16	25	64.0%	187	1	1	 83.2	7.48	
 9	9	 2002-11-10	33-031	GNB		DET	W 40-14	26	39	66.7%	351	2	0	 112.2	9.00
10	10	2002-11-17	33-038	GNB	@  MIN	L 21-31	24	43	55.8%	296	2	3	 63.7	6.88
11	11	2002-11-24	33-045	GNB	@  TAM	L 7-21	 20	38	52.6%	196	1	4	 36.6	5.16
12	12	2002-12-01	33-052	GNB		CHI	W 30-20	24	42	57.1%	221	2	1	 77.6	5.26
13	13	2002-12-08	33-059	GNB		MIN	W 26-22	22	32	68.8%	214	2	1	 95.1	6.69
14	14	2002-12-15	33-066	GNB	@  SFO	W 20-14	25	33	75.8%	201	1	0	 100.7	6.09
15	15	2002-12-22	33-073	GNB		BUF	W 10-0	 15	33	45.5%	114	1	2	 39.2	3.45
16	16	2002-12-29	33-080	GNB	@  NYJ	L 17-42	16	33	48.5%	172	1	1	 61.7	5.21
16 Games						341	551	61.9%	3658	27	16	85.6	6.64	6.31	25	73	2.92	0

The last time Favre started this well was when we went 8-1 and Favre had 17 TD's and 4 INT's. The next 2 games by Favre had 7 INT's and only 3 TD's. He finished the last 7 games 10 TD's and 12 INT's and had a 4-3 record.

It will be very interesting to see how Favre fares through the rest of the season.

[Freak Out]

The TT haters think 2007 was just a fluke or we only went 13-3 cuz of #4. They ignore the fact that #4 was under center in 2005...

Throwing to Taco Wallace.

[esoxx]

The TT haters think 2007 was just a fluke or we only went 13-3 cuz of #4. They ignore the fact that #4 was under center in 2005...

Throwing to Taco Wallace.

Handing off to Samkon Gado.

See, it all evens out.

[Freak Out]

The TT haters think 2007 was just a fluke or we only went 13-3 cuz of #4. They ignore the fact that #4 was under center in 2005...

Throwing to Taco Wallace.

Handing off to Samkon Gado.

See, it all evens out.

...at least the Rams haven't cut Gado.....probably because he's a Doctor and they can use him off the field.

[MJZiggy]

I can't believe all of you have overlooked the most obvious of answers to this thread.

The #2 reason is his o-line.

The #3 reason is AP.

BUT...

The #1 reason the dude is playing so well is this:

He Just turned 40 years old. Ever hear of a "Mid-Life Crisis"??

The Vikings are his "I'm gonna buy me a Harley, or a sports car to help me feel younger".

Am I the only one who sees this?

.

Good GOD, tell me they're not his sexy young trophy team!!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

I can't believe all of you have overlooked the most obvious of answers to this thread.

The #2 reason is his o-line.

The #3 reason is AP.

BUT...

The #1 reason the dude is playing so well is this:

He Just turned 40 years old. Ever hear of a "Mid-Life Crisis"??

The Vikings are his "I'm gonna buy me a Harley, or a sports car to help me feel younger".

Am I the only one who sees this?

.

Good GOD, tell me they're not his sexy young trophy team!!!

Jerod Allen is one sexy mofo