There's enough in this thread to make me think twice about re-reading it.
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Yeah, I probably shouldn't bump it anymore. but I had made my all in prediction here and began drinking the kool-aid straight. Was trying to tie together cleaning up obvious mistakes and winning more games.Originally posted by MJZiggyThere's enough in this thread to make me think twice about re-reading it.
But even in this I was wrong. The defense has simply started to outperform the mistakes.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Brandon I love your enthusiasm but you might be the most bi-polar poster on this board. One play you are booking SB tickets, the next you are on a suicide watch.Originally posted by Brandon494haha don't even remember writing this. Must have been really down after the TB loss. Glad we are making alittle run though.Originally posted by Packers4EverOriginally posted by Brandon494What if we finished 4-12? We just lost to TB, I'm sorry but this season is over in my mind. Hopefully I'm wrong and we make alittle run like the Cardinals last season.
Brandon, there's an old song that goes "pick yourself up, dust yourself
off and start all over again."
Go PACK
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No point is this, bobble...as Outflow and doom and gloom crowd have disappeared. When was the last time Outflow posted. LOLOriginally posted by bobbleheadBOOMSHAKALAKAA!!! FACE!!!Originally posted by outflowQuit being silly. Of course I am talking about specific 09-10 Green Bay Packer reasoning.Originally posted by bobbleheadYou asked for reasoning, not Packer specific reasoning...quit changing the parameters midway please.Originally posted by outflowBobblehead if they go 6-2 the rest of the way, they go 6-2 with no excuses. period.Originally posted by bobbleheadAgain, like I said, I don't "expect" to go 6-2, but here is a little reasoning.Originally posted by outflowThank you for this post, I agree wholeheartedly.Originally posted by PartialGiven the schedule coming up and the fact we've not beaten a winning team since week 4 Indy last year (I have no idea if this is true, Bedard said this on the radio and I don't care to look it up), I don't think it's that unreasonable.Originally posted by bobbleheadYes, its unheard of for a 4-4 midpoint team to finish 10-6...never happens.Originally posted by outflowMan, really? The optimism in this thread is intolerable. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell this team can go 6-2 here on out. This team has way too many problems...terrible o line, a non anticipative qb, no pass rush, bad offensive game planning, and a horrendous special teams outfit.
There is a whole lot of kool aid guzzling going on here.
Think before you type, most of us don't "expect" to go 10-6, but if you don't think its possible you are more deluded than those that think it is.
Ravens have had a much tougher schedule and look like an infinitely better 4-4 team than us.
Dallas looks light years better. They're OL is huge, Romo will have all day, and Rodgers won't have any time because there is a zero percent chance of having an banged up or misplaced tackle compete with DW.
Steelers are going to be damn near impossible to beat on the road. They've also won 4 in a row, including last night against the 6-1 Broncos. We haven't beaten a winning team, let alone an elite team in a long time.
Cardinals are clicking right now and look much faster and deeper offensively and better defensively as well.
We squeeked one out against the Bears when Cutler threw 4 picks. This was at home w/ two weeks to prepare. What are the odds we have a repeat performance, especially with Lovie having our number the past 5 years or so. I'd say slim.
I think they're going to drop those 5 for sure. The other games are debatable.
And Bobblehead your calling me out for being delusional. Please tell me you're kidding right? This team has no chance of going 6-2 here on out. I challenge you to give a little reasoning as to why you think it is instead of taking a swipe.
Forest Gregg once had a team that was 1-7 and looked like complete horseshit...they finished 8-8.
Last year the cardinals were 7-3, dropped 5 out of the next 7 and then ran the table to the superbowl.
2 years ago the giants were 6-2 at the midpoint then finished 10-6, then went on to beat the bucs, packers, and cowboys all on the road and then knocked off the perfect patriots to win the superbowl...in the regular season their record was 0-4 against the pack, cowboys and patriots.
I could continue with this all night, but I think its unquestionable that those of us that say it "could" happen are being much more realistic than those of you that say "no way in hell" it can happen.
Again is it likely...no, but its anything but a forgone conclusion that it can't happen....hell, in 2006 the packers were 1-4, then later 4-8 before running the last 4 and barely missing the playoffs....yea, not even possible they could suddenly click and finish 10-6....that kind of thing never happens.
Lesson over, go back to making outlandish statements then acting indignant when someone points out the extreme hyperbole you are using.
PS...If we do finish 10-6 I can't wait to hear how we didn't actually win 6 games, it was just that 6 teams played really bad and "gave" us a win.
The problem with your reasoning is that it deals with "other" teams. In no way do you make arguments using the strengths of this particular Packer roster. In my earlier post I gave a number of reasons which again includes: a non existant Packer rush amidst a total defensive system overhaul, a coach who is absolutely horrendous with his ability to scheme an opponent/playcall, an offensive line that is an embarrasment and a laughingstock, and a qb who has unequivocally regressed (to what extent remains a question). Probably the biggest one that I'll throw out now is the big play secondary is nowhere to be found. This leads me to believe they are not buying the system or luck is working itself out. Think about the turnover differential early in the season. If that has now swung the other way, things will be ugly. Couple these reasons along with a schedule that is more difficult than most around here would admit and you have a recipe for a team that will not finish 6-2 to close. I feel that strongly to use the absolute.
The thing about all of this that has me sitting back and observing how all this plays out is the fact that the Packers cannot use injuries as an excuse.
Ok, Packer reasons we can turn it around.
1) Every year our running game gets stronger as the season progresses. It is looking a tad better right now....but we gotta stick with it.
2) Mathews and Raji are coming on....especially Mathews.
3) Jordy and Finley returning will bump the ST and offense a bit.
4) The players should get more comfortable and the coaching staff utilizing the players in the 3-4.
5) We discovered a player in Lang and getting him on the field will be a plus. Hell, anything should be a plus in the OL, they almost CAN'T play worse.
6) I can't imagine continuing to screw up the punt and kick teams...at some point guys gotta get replaced with guys who don't give up 70 yard returns.
Thats a handful of things that could work out better. Just as we looked unstoppable against other teams #1's in preseason we have looked god awful at times....but when you have a QB that can audible and hit James Jones for a long score anytime a defense lines up wrong you got a shot.
1) Every year our running game gets stronger as the season progresses. It is looking a tad better right now....but we gotta stick with it.
Just because the running game may become more successful doesn't mean McCarthy will know how to exploit that in an offensive gameplan. Also, if the Green Bay keeps spotting 14 pts to start the game, all the running game in the world isn't going to help.
2) Mathews and Raji are coming on....especially Mathews.
I will give you Mathews, but Raji to this point just looks like another body. He may grow to be good, but for the next 8 games I doubt he will be a playmaker.
3) Jordy and Finley returning will bump the ST and offense a bit.
Theoretically, yes. However, if the offensive line doesn't block and Rogers doesn't snap out of this funk, these two won't make any difference.
4) The players should get more comfortable and the coaching staff utilizing the players in the 3-4.
Wow, you give this coaching staff alot of credit. This only works if the Packers improve greater than their opponents. In other words I can say that the opponents are also improving and their coaching staffs are also utiilizing their players better.
5) We discovered a player in Lang and getting him on the field will be a plus. Hell, anything should be a plus in the OL, they almost CAN'T play worse.
A rookie is going to save this offensive line?
6) I can't imagine continuing to screw up the punt and kick teams...at some point guys gotta get replaced with guys who don't give up 70 yard returns.
Why not? It's been going on this long. McCarthy's tendency to overlook the small things is a major knock against him. I have no faith in his ability to clean up the special teams or penalities.
Thats a handful of things that could work out better. Just as we looked unstoppable against other teams #1's in preseason we have looked god awful at times....but when you have a QB that can audible and hit James Jones for a long score anytime a defense lines up wrong you got a shot.
It's the PRESEASON! So what if you can hit a home run on the big play. Unless you sustain drives and play sound football, that big play will only win you a possible 1 or 2 games.
OK, OK, we haven't gotten to 10-6 yet, and the wheels could still come off, but I would say the point has been made that you overstated your case. And I always enjoy being part of a monster quote chain.
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Definitely. The road games still worry me though. The only wins are Detroit, St. Louis and Cleveland. But then again, other than the TB meltdown the only loss is Minnesota.Originally posted by PlantPage55After beating this Ravens team, there is no reason that this team can't go 11-5.
Or hell, even 12-4.
So, the team does not necessarily play poorly on the road, but has yet to prove anything on it either. They beat Chicago this week, and a playoff berth is all but locked up.
Let's go get the Bears boys!!
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At Arizona and at Pittsburgh will be very tough. As bad as things are going for Pittsburgh, they are still in the thick of the playoff race and the graphic showed that they have a pretty schedule. Arizona showed it will be tough to beat last night. Hopefully, Arizona has nothing to play for.Originally posted by Lurker64At this point, I will be disappointed if the team goes 10-6."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I just think that we can go 3-1 down the stretch. 11-5 isn't terribly unrealistic.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersAt Arizona and at Pittsburgh will be very tough. As bad as things are going for Pittsburgh, they are still in the thick of the playoff race and the graphic showed that they have a pretty schedule. Arizona showed it will be tough to beat last night. Hopefully, Arizona has nothing to play for.Originally posted by Lurker64At this point, I will be disappointed if the team goes 10-6.</delurk>
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GO 10-6!!!!Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Jenna is knocking at the door!Originally posted by The LeaperWhat if I wake up and Jenna Jamison is sitting on my cock?
Both have about the same chance of happening at this point."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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